the unstoppable local-biz-swallowing pseudo-monopoly that is AMAZON

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wtf, Amazon is now considered "an institution"?

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 25 October 2018 00:33 (five years ago) link

as of 2016 they controlled 31% of the global market in cloud computing infrastructure, and when they have problems it immediately creates many problems for many people. https://gizmodo.com/how-one-little-amazon-error-can-destroy-the-internet-1792828399

so yeah, i guess they are, now. whoooops!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 October 2018 00:51 (five years ago) link

We gotta fuck this shit up. https://t.co/BUZzgbrCMj

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) November 6, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link

man I would've bet a lot of money on Boston

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link

glad I didn't!

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link

DC area is so obvious in retrospect, I feel dumb for not realizing that earlier

rob, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

pretty happy it isn't boston

ciderpress, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link

Arlington is my hometown and already has been through cycles of gentrification/development/displacement in my lifetime but efforts for denser development and affordable housing have been playing out with some success in the last 10 years so maybe it won't be an immediate disaster for housing affordability and the latinx communities living there and in Alexandria and Falls Church

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

Silby, Arlington has been pretty good about affordable housing, diversity,
density, and transit. I wish those things weren't luxury goods, but we do what we can here.

Crystal City has loads of vacant space; it would be cool to see it used rather than watch it crumble.

Glasnostradamus (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link

this is weird: Booksellers Protest Amazon Site’s Move to Drop Stores From Certain Countries

On Saturday night, in response to a query from a reporter, AbeBooks issued a statement saying it was dropping the countries because “our third-party payment service provider is closing at the end of the year.” It added that, “We regret that we cannot continue to serve all sellers.”

Asked how many booksellers and countries were affected, Richard Davies, an AbeBooks spokesman, said, “I am not adding anything else to that statement.”

Mr. Brown, one of the dealers organizing the protests, said that for many of the booksellers, AbeBooks’ actions underlined both Amazon’s power and its refusal to be accountable for it.

“The biggest e-commerce giant in the world apparently finds it too complicated to do business in Prague,” he said. “You have to wonder who’s next. We’re all vulnerable to Amazon’s capricious actions.”


The complete lack of information makes it hard to understand what’s going on here. It’s not clear whether they are withdrawing from specific markets or cannot service specific sellers. I don’t really understand how a change in payment provider or system would affect specific countries. I guess it’s possible that some seller systems may not report in a way compatible with the new software or platform. But they also seem to be citing unspecified complexities and expenses associated with named markets.

The complete lack of notice and public comms from Abebooks are both very poor.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link

r.i.p. jokes pic.twitter.com/aYgsPE5xN1

— Miriam Bale (@mimbale) November 13, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link

idk what that was but: i hate amazon

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link

amazon more like amazin(g)

ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link

Oh she deleted it for some reason, anyway someone listed a variety of "joke" demands for Amazon (e.g. keep worker fatalities under 40/year), then in a followup about an hour later it was announced that NY was paying out some ungodly sum to Amazon for the privilege (unclear if it was a literal payout or just tax incentives)

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 16:23 (five years ago) link

Might actually make sense to incentivize the Crystal City site, that office space has been emptying iirc

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 16:33 (five years ago) link

*this* is the thing they come together to do. https://t.co/1uNWiaMcIk

— Vinson Cunningham (@vcunningham) November 13, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link

Can't they just build a barge for them in the Hudson River. All of this makes no sense. Amazon needs NYC more than NYC needs them. But sure give them shitloads of money to fuck up the infrastructure.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link

The inflatable rat industry is going to be popping.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:36 (five years ago) link

the most humiliating thing i read recently was how Andrew Cuomo said "i'll change my name to Amazon Cuomo if they come to NY."

omar little, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link

As a New Yorker, I am black. As a New Yorker, I am Jewish. As a New Yorker, I am an e-commerce monopolist.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link

Yeah, the councilpeople for Queens are already utilizing that stupid ass name because they didn't bother to go through the proper community review process.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link

Stupid ass Willie Wonka stunt.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link

The Atlantic weighs in.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link

looks like VA's deal is much better. 1/4 of the nominal dollar value is infrastructure spending, including on Metro. The per-job incentive is also half of what NY is offering. Obviously this is all very stupid though.

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link

New York taxpayers will be forced to literally subsidize a HELIPAD for Jeff Bezos https://t.co/WuOBIHHU7M pic.twitter.com/UiYdq5gdjf

— David Sirota (@davidsirota) November 13, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link

Bezos basically went from Kevin from The Office to Lex Luthor.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link

One last kicker

.@NYGovCuomo confirms that Amazon project will be approved through Empire State Development, which he controls, removing the need for a City Council vote to approve the zoning.

— Erin Durkin (@erinmdurkin) November 13, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link

Christ, what an asshole

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

I voted for Nixon. Fuck Cuomo.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

i voted for Nixon, and Howie Hawkins last week

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link

de blasio just now: "One of the biggest companies on earth next to the biggest public housing development in the United States — the synergy is going to be extraordinary."

— Eliza Relman (@eliza_relman) November 13, 2018

and so say all of us: tap into america

mookieproof, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link

I look fwd to BdB and his frenemy the Prince never being elected to anything ever again

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link

Cuomo can’t respond to the genuine left critique: That cities should not offer incentives like this at all. In fact, he dismisses this as unrealistic:

Nothing in the Amazon transaction is new. The tax incentives we provide for single business transactions are usual and typical and have been operational for decades. They are long standing programs supported by both Democrats and Republicans in both the city and the state. Nor are tax incentive programs unique to New York. Every state offers incentives to attract businesses and we are in a constant competition with other states and nations to attract and keep good businesses. One could argue that in a perfect world no city or state would be legally allowed to offer incentives and there would be no competition for individuals or businesses. True. But this is not a perfect world. Our state is in an intense daily competition with other states and, indeed, other countries. Wisconsin lured Foxconn Technology with 13,000 jobs for a $3 billion incentive package. A locality in Texas lured Exxon Mobil with 400 jobs for a $1.2 billion subsidy. Louisiana attracted DXCTechnology and 2,000 jobs with a $115 million incentive. The list goes on.

Buddy, the fact that nothing in this “transaction” is new is the socialist critique. The fact that this is business as usual is the problem. The fact that both Democrats and Republicans support this is very fucking bad, not evidence that it’s good and fine. Also, a weird flex to bring up Wisconsin’s appalling Foxconn giveaway, which may cost the state as much as a million fucking dollars per job. But OK!

https://splinternews.com/everything-about-andrew-cuomos-big-defense-of-the-amazo-1830539740

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 November 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

the robot uprising has begun

Twenty-four employees at an Amazon warehouse in New Jersey were taken to hospital after a robot accidentally punctured a can of bear repellent.

The 255g can containing concentrated capsaicin, a compound in chilli peppers, was punctured by an automated machine after it fell off a shelf, according to local media.

The incident happened on Wednesday at a warehouse in Robbinsville, New Jersey, on the outskirts of Trenton.

Amazon said: “All of the impacted employees have been or are expected to be released from hospital within the next 24 hours. The safety of our employees is always our top priority and a full investigation is already under way.”

The employees were taken to hospital “as a precaution”, Amazon said earlier.

We're in 2009—it's time to take risks, (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 December 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

EXCLUSIVE: Amazon is thinking of pulling out of New York HQ2 deal, because of strong opposition from local politicians. Northern Virginia could get some or all of the jobs slated for NYC. https://t.co/hn6ImP5toF

— Robert McCartney (@McCartneyWP) February 8, 2019

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Friday, 8 February 2019 17:26 (five years ago) link

Good.

Yerac, Friday, 8 February 2019 17:30 (five years ago) link

of course it could just be a negotiating tactic/ruse

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Friday, 8 February 2019 17:32 (five years ago) link

fine by everyone i know in queens.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 8 February 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link

GOOD

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 8 February 2019 17:46 (five years ago) link

Northern Virginia makes much more sense anyway, they just wanted to go to New York for the glamor

Norm’s Superego (silby), Friday, 8 February 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link

God, is this gonna fuck it up even worse for those of us in the DC orbit? Thanks a lot, Nerd York.

peace, man, Friday, 8 February 2019 18:15 (five years ago) link

smells like victory

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 February 2019 18:36 (five years ago) link

I would maybe consider letting amazon move in if the surrounding co-op boards in LIC and Astoria interviewed them first.

Yerac, Friday, 8 February 2019 22:24 (five years ago) link

they really ought to move to toledo or buffalo or something.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 8 February 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link

AMAZON CANCELS PLAN TO COME TO NEW YORK

"After much thought and deliberation, we’ve decided not to move forward with our plans to build a headquarters for Amazon in Long Island City, Queens" - Amazon spokeswoman Jodi Seth

— J. David Goodman (@jdavidgoodman) February 14, 2019

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 February 2019 16:49 (five years ago) link

almost certainly the best thing for the city

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 14 February 2019 17:30 (five years ago) link

Union leaders castigate Amazon for its workplace practices and resistance to unionization, but have said they would be more open to supporting the deal if the company made changes.
“I think that what they need to do is have a dialogue with us,” said Stuart Appelbaum, an outspoken opponent and the president of the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union. “If they’re receiving $3 billion in money, including from union members and workers, they shouldn’t then take that money and use it to fight their workers.”
George L. Miranda, the head of the Teamsters Local 210, said his union could get behind the deal if Amazon agreed to not actively resist unionization at its offices and warehouses in New York.
“Remain neutral. That’s all we’re asking,” said Mr. Miranda, whose union has rallied with opponents. “It would say that they want to be good, responsible corporate leaders here in New York City.”

versus
For Amazon, the commitment to build a new headquarters requires positive, collaborative relationships with state and local elected officials who will be supportive over the long-term. While polls show that 70% of New Yorkers support our plans and investment, a number of state and local politicians have made it clear that they oppose our presence and will not work with us to build the type of relationships that are required to go forward with the project we and many others envisioned in Long Island City.

disingenuous as fuck imo

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 14 February 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link

As someone who owns land in Arlington, Virginia, I, um, approve?

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 14 February 2019 19:22 (five years ago) link

Amazon is not a hip new york company at all anyway, they are far more suited to being a stodgy Northern Virginia company

Norm’s Superego (silby), Thursday, 14 February 2019 19:28 (five years ago) link


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