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growth as expansion vs growth as refinement. I don't think liking as much as possible is the goal, but I do think being able to suspend whatever you think your needs are and being open to the unknown is an essential part of growth

― ogmor, Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:57 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm i think

EBows are corny

:(

they can be, yeah, but they can also be cool!

Husker Du's "The Baby Song" is fun and funny.

EBows are corny

― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:55 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

FP!!!

I don't know if this is for here or the rockism thread but I was being given a lift and the Ariana Grande song Breathin' came on the radio and it sounded like absolute crap and it almost felt good to hate a pop song by an ILM-approved artist again. But then again, car speakers

Greta Van Fleet are fine.

that ogmor post is super cool

i think i'm only open to the unknown like .. once a month though lol

does anyone feel like every time they revisit something, it's like they didn't "get it" in the first place? i'm constantly re-getting everything, with the caveat that i'm not really getting it because i'm going to re-get it again. it can be a little exhausting. i think that's part of the reason why i don't listen to more music than i do.

― macropuente (map), Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:04 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. and it's like.., why didn't i just cut to the chase and like this the first time around? especially after loudly proclaiming ur dislike of something, to revisit it and instantly see how wrong u were lol

Nina Simone's music is astonishingly uninspired given the critical arselicking she gets.

Go listen to Nina Simone at Newport and then try to post that with a straight face

Nah, I've had enough.

quoth inspiration connoisseur 'jon123'

Music is shit

i love it

I imagine this is less controversial round here, but in everyday life my stance that Queen were utterly shit in so many ways seems to really bother people

Queen suck, you are otm

you gonna catch the biopic?

Haha its the biopic thats made it such a hot topic. People think that because I'm a gay man and I love music that I must be into Queen and the disbelief I've been met with when I say that I find their music wholly unpleasant has been really... well, unsurprising because Queen are considered icond etc but really they are just awful arent they

biopics = also awful

the only way that film could be any more unappealing was if Bradley Cooper was playing Freddie Mercury

Queen are fucking garbage. I totally don't get it. (I also don't get the appeal of Roxy Music or T. Rex - or glam in general. There's this whole musical-theater-kid side of early 70s British rock that's completely fucking baffling to me.)

I think it's pretty "funny" for anyone to assume that a gay, music-loving man must be into Queen

the only way that film could be any more unappealing was if Bradley Cooper was playing Freddie Mercury

Or Sasha Baron Cohen.

Lol yes

Never really connected with Queen either, though I acknowledge that 1) Freddie is a talented singer--whatever that means, and 2) Brian May has a very distinctive (and cool) guitar tone. But yeah, I don't ever really want to listen to Queen.

But I hated Kiss for like thirty years and now I don't so maybe a day will come when it clicks, who knows

Roxy Music is great though

Paul OTM re: Queen

I like their hits, can't really be bothered to dig further.

Lol KISS also totally terrible

otm. and it's like.., why didn't i just cut to the chase and like this the first time around? especially after loudly proclaiming ur dislike of something, to revisit it and instantly see how wrong u were lol

I actually really enjoy this process. I mean I feel stupid if I've been all "that sucks!" about something I end up loving but the whole process of being irritated by something / leaning in closer / learning that the irritation was...something different maybe? this is intensely interesting to me in how I approach music

I don’t like Queen at all, but also think Mercury is one of the most overrated singers in history. He reminds me of what one of Freddie Hubbard’s contemporaries said of Hubbard’s playing: “It’s the Rolls-Royce aesthetic without the Rolls-Royce.”

He reminds me of what one of Freddie Hubbard’s contemporaries said of Hubbard’s playing: “It’s the Rolls-Royce aesthetic without the Rolls-Royce.”

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat)

that sounds like a compliment to me!

I quite enjoy some Queen tunes. But as shallow as this sounds, the trailer for Bohemian Rhapsody that I seem to be unable to avoid has put me off wanting to associate with them for a good couple of years.

It should put you off because the movie is terrible.

I don’t like Queen at all, but also think Mercury is one of the most overrated singers in history. He reminds me of what one of Freddie Hubbard’s contemporaries said of Hubbard’s playing: “It’s the Rolls-Royce aesthetic without the Rolls-Royce.”

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, October 25, 2018 9:41 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Never heard this quote but I wonder about its context. Freddie was one of the great sellouts of jazz, and his attempts at mainstream records are far worse than George Benson's. But in his early days, he was one of the best that ever was.

Queen have been the defener's music of choice for a decade, and I'm afraid this film is going to make things exponentially worse. I am in the odd position of hoping there is a backlash against a group I don't actually dislike.

I was at a café a couple of months ago when some early Queen album I hadn't heard yet started playing. Shirking Shazam, I asked the barista what it was and he responded with 'Queen aka the greatest band of all time'. 'I beg to differ', I said, and he looked visibly upset, as if dissensus were utterly unfathomable in this department. I left it at that, but I wonder how he would have reacted had I told him that not only is Queen by no means the greatest band evah, they're also kind of shit.

Roxy Music is something else entirely, though, in no small part due to their sheer weirdness early on. And I say this as someone who also tends to dislike overt theatrics in music.

I left it at that, but I wonder how he would have reacted had I told him that not only is Queen by no means the greatest band evah, they're also kind of shit.

― pomenitul

literally telling him "your favorite band sucks"? i mean, i can guess.

LOL

I know, I know. It’s just so hard sometimes to keep it all bottled up.

v much enjoy your posting style, pomenitul

I don't remember if I made it up or the dude I was dating made it up but I've always like the "Queen: Second Greatest Band Of All Time" maxim

Thought I adored Queen until I was made to listen to A Night At The Opera remastered to 5.1 surround sound in a fancy mix room at max volume and I pretty much wanted to skin myself alive

Thank you! Much appreciated.

xp

Queen is fun. I dunno, I feel like it's got more baggage for British ppl? Kinda like Oasis or Primal Scream does? Here they were just always a band with some radio hits that was generally well liked but not a huge deal

like I saw some British ppl on Facebook getting all bent outta shape about Primal Scream and Bobby Gillespe it's like move over here where they are less well remembered than like Local H or Soul Coughing

Never heard this quote but I wonder about its context. Freddie was one of the great sellouts of jazz, and his attempts at mainstream records are far worse than George Benson's. But in his early days, he was one of the best that ever was.

― Paul Ponzi, Friday, October 26, 2018 7:13 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't think it was in reference to Freddie's selling out, but more about how his playing in general -- technically impressive as it undoubtedly is -- doesn't have the depth of imagination or ideas commensurate with his facility. I personally don't think he's an objectively awful musician or anything, but I can't think of a record he's on -- with Blakey, Herbie Hancock, Andrew Hill, Coltrane, Sam Rivers, whoever -- where I wouldn't rather hear Booker Little or Lee Morgan. The most excited I can get about his playing is that it's "just fine." (Actually, that's not entirely true: there are a couple of moments on Sam Rivers' Contours that are really stunning.)

I do, however, think his playing on Coltrane's Ascension is completely awful and clueless. Personal associations with some of that record's other musicians aside, I have no idea why he's on it (and neither does he, apparently).

i just think it's funny that out of all the possible titles of a Freddie biopic, they chose "Bohemian Rhapsody."