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Opposition to PROP 10

Officials

Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom (D), 2018 gubernatorial candidate[47]
John Cox (R), 2018 gubernatorial candidate[47]

Parties

California Republican Party[48]

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 01:03 (five years ago) link

When did Gavin Newsom disappoint you first?

I betcha nobody here remembers Brittanie Mountz.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 01:04 (five years ago) link

lol who could forget

the late great, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 01:05 (five years ago) link

I actually remember Newsom's Gay Marriage Gambit as a pretty savvy move to consolidate the city behind him after a divisive election (and I definitely didn't vote for him in that one).

But he will not be as competent as Brown, that's for sure. Hopefully it will be enough.

fajita seas, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 03:00 (five years ago) link

I betcha nobody here remembers Brittanie Mountz.

โ€• Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:04 PM (yesterday)

oh I remember! she had the best name, the jokes wrote themselves

sarahell, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:15 (five years ago) link

i also endorse these endorsements:

https://tjr.xxx/content/two-evils-voting-guide-nov-2018.pdf?1540269420

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 00:35 (five years ago) link

Surprising revelation from @GavinNewsom, former 2-term Mayor of SF: he hasnโ€™t read #PropC and has no opinion on it. Tax tech to help homeless? No view. Not even in the abstract. โ€œI havenโ€™t read it.โ€ pic.twitter.com/0RpAbozJFA

— Doug Sovern (@SovernNation) October 30, 2018

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 00:37 (five years ago) link

prop 10 seems like it's going to lose:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-may-2018-proposition-10-s-support-craters-in-new-1540406834-htmlstory.html

possibly thanks to this kind of nonsense (the same people will tell you that prop 10 will result in fewer houses being built. pick a side people!)

silver linings though:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-may-2018-prop-6-leaders-threaten-recall-campaign-1540838655-htmlstory.html

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 00:41 (five years ago) link

missing link there sorry

Whyโ€™s @AptAssocGLA gonna go ahead and make this old lady lie like that pic.twitter.com/GiSMsSydF8

— Scott Frazier (@safrazie) October 28, 2018

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 00:41 (five years ago) link

damn dude, she looks like she's only in her mid-50s??

sarahell, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 01:21 (five years ago) link

that Doug Sovern tweet is bullshit. Newsom has already weighed in on Prop C

Dan S, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 01:30 (five years ago) link

(he thinks Prop C could make the problem worse. don't agree)

Dan S, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 01:35 (five years ago) link

Prop C is a good thing!, really hope it passes

Dan S, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 01:52 (five years ago) link

Agree completely re Prop C

Prop 10 is doomed, but I may vote for it anyway.

fajita seas, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 02:04 (five years ago) link

submitted without comment

http://www.peaceandfreedom.org/home/images/VoterGuides/2018-November-Workers-Voter-Guide.pdf

except that the candidates they are endorsing look really young

the late great, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 05:24 (five years ago) link

the best thing on twitter right now is marc benioff dunking on rich silicon valley guys who wonโ€™t pay a tiny tax to fund anti-homelessness initiatives https://t.co/IDjDXsaqJb

— we're going to abolish ICE (@SeanMcElwee) November 4, 2018

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link

yeah benioff is pretty legit for a billionaire ceo

iatee, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link

all the bonds except the admittedly slightly weird water bond passed

5 (extend limits on property tax) and 6 (remove gas tax and let the state fall apart) failed :-(

rent control wasn't even close though :-(

the charter guy is winning superintendent of public instruction but it's close and has not been called yet

kounalakis won lieutenant gov. did anyone have a strong opinion about that one? neither seems like particularly promising future governers.

looks like la county is about to vote out the sheriff for the first time in 100+ years. the replacement has the support of the LASD rank and file which is huge fucking red flag, but he ran on a "get ICE out of LA jails" platform (LASD runs the county jails).

la city public bank failed :-(

the NRA-sponsored judge lost in LA county :-)

proposition C passed though and by a lot1

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link

Surely you meant to smile on 5 and 6 losing.

nickn, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 17:01 (five years ago) link

yeah idgi re: 6

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link

Looks like the one District I was focusing on (10 - Harder vs. Denham) might still be too close to call, last time I checked the results were w/in 1,000 votes.

Looks like Rohrabacher is out though, which is awesome

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link

yeah i got confused about smileys.

5 (extend limits on property tax) and 6 (remove gas tax and let the state fall apart) failed :-)

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

can't believe Nunes is still gonna be around

Scam jam, thank you maโ€™am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link

I can't believe Duncan Hunter is still going to be around

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 19:58 (five years ago) link

I read something about C that it might be taken to court because it's a tax prop that didn't get the required two-thirds majority?

Captain Hardchord (Leee), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 19:58 (five years ago) link

sounds inevitable

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

I assume that's another thing we can thank Prop 13 for.

Captain Hardchord (Leee), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

wait hunter won? jfc

Scam jam, thank you maโ€™am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link

What's the matter with San Diego?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/7/18066314/house-midterms-results-duncan-hunter-winner

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:12 (five years ago) link

Camp Pendleton

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link

Nah, that's NE county SD exurbs, pretty red to begin with (2R:1D) & they are certainly not going to vote for a guy who is half-Palestine/half-Mexican.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link

San Diego is pretty deep blue, but not out there

https://hunter.house.gov/our-district

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link

Santee!

sarahell, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link

Can't believe prop 11 passed, 'Let's all get together and screw private ambulance workers!'

But otherwise not too bad here in CA.

fajita seas, Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:22 (five years ago) link

the sooner we can never adjust our microwave clocks again the better

del griffith, Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:27 (five years ago) link

also Ammar Campa-Najjar still wouldn't have won if he'd become a horse and changed his name to Bill Stevens, so deep is the backcountry chaparral love for vaping veterans

del griffith, Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:29 (five years ago) link

But otherwise not too bad here in CA.

โ€• fajita seas, Wednesday, November 7, 2018 7:22 PM (yesterday)

well, except for the fact that people were more concerned about the living conditions of animals that will become food than human beings who are renters, which is quite shit

sarahell, Friday, 9 November 2018 00:44 (five years ago) link

same in 2008! chickens 01, gay people 00

Dan S, Friday, 9 November 2018 00:48 (five years ago) link

And probably all the 2008 chickens are long eaten by now

sarahell, Friday, 9 November 2018 00:52 (five years ago) link

The LA podcast today is a post mortem of the election and also the fact that one of our councilmen Jose huizar was raided by the FBI the morning after. De Leon is a future mayoral candidate and was state senator for the district that covers the council district. Theyโ€™re speculating and repeating rumours that de Leon will run for this seat then mayor (he would walk both races, and in some ways LA council is a promotion from state senate).

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 00:53 (five years ago) link

lol xp

Dan S, Friday, 9 November 2018 00:55 (five years ago) link

Also they make the point that running a state ballot measure for rent control, rather than incremental and local changes where costa Hawkins and local circumstances allow it (which is a few cities in socal, not sure about up north), was a major tactical error. (Largely made by noted LA crank and AHF syphilis invasion billboard guy Michael Weinstein).

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 00:56 (five years ago) link

Itโ€™s a good podcast imo btw https://overcast.fm/+Mkf9-9PBU

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 00:56 (five years ago) link

which is a few cities in socal, not sure about up north

I would be surprised if San Francisco didn't have the strongest tenant protections in the state. Berkeley has some, as do Oakland, and some smaller Bay Area cities.

sarahell, Friday, 9 November 2018 01:00 (five years ago) link

Right but the way Costa Hawkins work affects a cityโ€™s ability to vote to expand the rent control aspect of those protections in weird/complex ways. Prop 5 would have repealed costa Hawkins, but some cityโ€™s still have wiggle room. Iโ€™d be surprised if sf wasnโ€™t already it itโ€™s limits.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 01:03 (five years ago) link

Did anyone see yet if thereโ€™s a supermajority in both houses? The count was drifting left in the sense it might be but it wasnโ€™t enough yet when I tried to figure out.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 01:09 (five years ago) link

Election Day may be over, but California has more than 4.5 million ballots left to count.

The uncounted ballots could push voter turnout to nearly 60 percent of those registered. Participation in a non-presidential election has not hit 60 percent in California since 1994, although it hit 59 percent in 2010.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article221392480.html

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 November 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link

Did anyone see yet if thereโ€™s a supermajority in both houses?

Does this matter a lot with a Democratic governor?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 9 November 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link

A supermajority would allow the Democrats to pass any legislation without GOP help. As I understand it they already have a supermajority in the Assembly. In the Senate they need 27 seats, and according to Politico: โ€œit now appears Democratic Sen. Ricardo Lara is in good shape to become insurance commissioner, which would leave a vacancy for months in the upper house. And the race in District 12 between Democrat Anna Caballero and Republican Rob Poythress remains too close to know if Democrats will have 27 even if Lara departs.โ€

Dan S, Friday, 9 November 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link


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