Shall we maybe anticipate David Gordon Green and Danny McBride's HALLOWEEN sequel/reboot?

I do agree this was better than all the sequels tho but it didn't exactly have a high bar to clear

― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:16 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink'

bullshit, this doesn't touch the original halloween ii

or even the zombie halloween ii which i like a lot and has way more visual personality than this movie

it was very fun still

the editing was a fucking joke though

Almost every review I've read, even the positive ones, mention lots of self aware comments characters make. A la "a lot of people say she's his sister, but that's just a stupid urban legend" or stuff like that.

yeah she called him the shape in the movie which weirded me out, this is less a sequel to halloween than a sequel to a bunch of ideas that seemed to flow out of halloween

bullshit, this doesn't touch the original halloween ii

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:32 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I do like the original Halloween II, admittedly, I was thinking more of the crap like 4, 5, 6, H20, Resurrection, the Zombies....

the only movie in that list i wouldn't defend is resurrection and maybe the first zombie

i like h20 wayyy more than this thing

Those comic-relief scenes (plus the kid/babysitter dialogue) sounded so much like Danny McBride to me, especially the banh mi sandwich banter.

I'm eternally disappointed that they haven't figured out a way to wedge Shatner into one of these late-period pomo Halloweens yet.

the new Dr Loomis d00d kinda sucked, he comes across like a guy who joined a Meisner acting class for a month, probably smugly walked around set all day 'in character', and had no idea how "community theatre" his performance came across.

H20 fails cos of Creed being used in the background

I hate Halloween 4-6, they r d00d00

actually I liked H20 at the time, but on rewatch, it didn't age well. other than the ending, which was of course nullified by Resurrection

4 has a great ending too but yeah I had a bad time with that whole trilogy

3 also has a great ending speaking of films that are not good

season of the witch is an awesome movie

3 has one of the all-time great endings in moviedom.

the one thing the new movie does right is not even bother to question what is motivating Michael to kill. the Cult of Thorn was soooooo zzzzZZzzZZzzzzzzz

weakened his character so much

i admire and understand that decision too

You admire and understand everything tho

It’s why we call you “admire-all nelson”

lol

regardless of my misgivings i in particular loved the very cathartic final twenty minutes of this film

Michael saying his favorite band was Wilco was kinda weird tho

yeah he always seemed like more of a uncle tupelo dude

i was kinda wondering how Michael managed that incredible upper body strength in his 60s despite not seeming very ripped

guess he has go muscles rather than show muscles

I have only seen the original (one of the very few Carpenter films I like) and have only wanted to see Season of the Witch subsequently; still haven't.

cool

i was kinda wondering how Michael managed that incredible upper body strength in his 60s despite not seeming very ripped

Same here, thought that seeing some "working on in the asylum" shots would have helped.

*working out

The original Halloween II is a worthy sequel, though retconned out now. Not enough of a historian to say if the '80s films were the first to franchise the killers, but I remember being happy as a kid with its conclusion, and not really needing more Michael or his story.

What are the other JC films you like, Dr. M? Escape from New York, The Fog, The Thing, Prince of Darkness, In the Mouth of Madness, Big Trouble in Little China (big love for this one) - curious which ones could be criticized for faults that Halloween didn't also share. I find them all vastly rewatchable.

Not holding out hope for the BTiLC remake with Dwayne Johnson. Think he's smart enough to understand and appreciate the original's subversion of the hero/sidekick roles, but can't imagine the producers would allow him to play a bumbling hero.

Original Halloween II is pretty forgettable aside from the Last Starfighter's uber-classic death scene.

there’s also the spa death! the hospital is so effectively creepy and people keep going for help and disappearing until there’s practically no one there and i love it

See now, that's up for debate. Lance Guest (?) slips on the bloody floor, falls back and smacks his head, but I don't recall Michael finishing the job. Always assumed he was unconscious in the room for the movie's duration. And yes, the spa death is great, but why are Michael's hands not also scalded? (little logic quibbles...). And totally agree on the empty hospital providing a great atmosphere. There's a great flick on Netflix called "The Last Shift" that uses a shuttered police station to similar effect.

lance guest bleeds out and dies in the car before he can start it and save himself and laurie

it’s an outstanding death scene

also i love that he dies bc he slipped on blood

alpaca, I like Starman... and most of Escape from New York and Dark Star (long ago)

i was hoping you'd say you liked the fog, i watched that for the first time the other day

they live is a documentary

I do need to get on They Live

Forgot about Starman - also a fun watch. And shoot, forgot about him getting into the car, but I assumed he passed out from a concussion. I had to google an answer and found an interview with Guest.

In your eyes did Jimmy live (like the TV cut) or possibly die (like the theatrical cut)?

In the original script, Jimmy lives, so I had always thought that was the story. When i saw it, and the end was cut, I still thought he lived, but that they wanted to give her the final moments of the film, since it’s really her story and not mine. So, in my mind, I lived. In later Halloween sequel ( H5, H20) Jamie’s character’s kids have the same last name as my characters’ – Lloyd. Which is weird, because Jamie’s ACTUAL kids have the same last name as mine.

i've never seen the tv cut of halloween ii but i'm v curious about it, the version that lives in the imaginations of a lot of ppl who love it is the tv cut

i just rewatched halloween 4, which is a creepy little hollowed-out movie imo, especially when michael cuts the power and everyone is illuminated faintly by generators. i think i like it even more than 2

saw it again. liked it a wee bit better, but the needle didn't move all that far.

also, was thinking, how many different Laurie Strode timelines are there now? since H20 ignored 4-6, and this one ignores 2, 4-6, I come up with....

1. Laurie Strode was Michael's sister, had a daughter named Jamie, died in a car accident, orphaning her daughter.
2. Laurie Strode was Michael's sister, faked her car accident death, apparently either didn't ever have a daughter named Jamie or did and abandoned her, and has a teenage son. Stabbed to death by Michael after she decapitated the wrong dude
3. Laurie Strode *wasn't* Michael's sister, didn't die or pretend to die in a car accident, had no daughter named Jamie or teenage son (but did have one named Karen, whom she lost custody of.)

Stabbed to death by Michael after she decapitated the wrong dude

hate the first twenty minutes of resurrection so much (the remainder is entertaining trash)

Just started watching this, and obv. Green knows how to direct a movie, and the acting seems fine, but the script ... just dumb or annoying stuff happening every few minutes, from the lazy (like hokey info-dump exposition, as if anyone needs to be caught up - "you mean Michael Myers, who murdered those people 40 years ago this very day?!") to general incoherence (if he killed five or so people one night decades ago, that neither makes him a serial killer nor really explains him being characterized as "pure evil" or whatever; you need the context of years of sequels for that) to just ridiculous (like the British journalist taunting him in the mental ward by yelling at him and waving his mask, or Michael waiting in the back of an empty car to kill the kid when he gets back rather than just ... driving away in the car before the kid even comes back). I dunno, there are some things it's getting right, but that just sort of makes the things it's getting wrong or weird more curious. This is just the first 20 minutes or so, though, so I'll give it more time, even if I assume the rest of the movie stays pretty much on the predictable track.

I liked this better on rewatching. B+

Like I said, just diving in now, but B+ because it does anything new, or B+ as a Halloween sequel?

swear to god the mullet kid looked exactly like someone in my 4th grade class. talked the same too.

also why did so many people in Illinois have NY/Jersey accents.

I saw Halloween Ends last night on Amazon Prime and enjoyed it a lot, it's probably the best of the Green trilogy

extra points for all the menacing shots of empty kitchens and the way that motif is repurposed at the very end

the discussion of the franchise itt makes me want to see the few I've missed

its funny how many people outright hate this movie, and when I ask them to elucidate , they basically map out that they wanted the same shit that always happens in every Halloween movie. where's the fun in that.

doesn't mean this movie is inherently a success in trying something different (I liked it, but I can see arguments against parts of it), but kinda feel like this is the Last Jedi of teh Halloween series

It’s easily the best of these new ones

low bar

Seriously. The previous two, but particularly the second one, were so bad, I don't care whether the third is any good at all. Never going to see it.

So what is up with David Gordon Green? What a weird career path, to divide your time pretty evenly between prestige indie dramas, sophomoric comedies, lame horror reboots and oddball Danny McBride HBO projects.

he likes to make money and work with his friends, I assume.

Wayne Wang had a similarly eclectic “One for me” (a personal project) followed up by “one for them”(studio work), before eventually deciding to stick with the indie route.

Blumhouse must be shitting itself over Exorcist: Believer’s extremely poor opening weekend. They spent $400 MILLION on just the rights to the franchise. That doesn’t include the cost of this one film

I've had three friends see it and my brother and all of them were bored to tears.

I've heard nothing but bad things about the new Exorcist, funnily enough I actually liked the trailer I saw before Oppenheimer and was mildly curious until I heard all the feedback.

Possession horror generally sucks with a few exceptions