US Politics, October 2018: next week will be even longer

"They have a word, it sort of became old-fashioned....we’re not supposed to use that word."

I wonder how hard it would be to get Trump to label himself a fascist.

c'mon, he'd never ally himself with a leftwing political philosophy

lol

Do immigrants often travel this way?

iirc there was a similar caravan a while back, maybe a year ago.

Fuck this caravan thing is turning out to be high octane fuel for these racist mainiacs and thier followers.

“What’s to stop them?” said Ms. Shields, a retired accountant. “We have a lot of people who live on lakes in the summer and winter someplace else. When they come back in the spring, their house would be occupied.”

lol I'm imagining local cops standing around saying "What can we do?" rather than running to the artillery closet

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/412690-arkansas-county-leaves-dem-candidate-off-ballot-in-key-race?fbclid=IwAR3egz9G9LwuQYoooqBXKiGMYRfLbQ_FgioMgEHDD6oKu1Se-QvbNf99WaQ

xpost yeah it sucks that squatters aren't a thing that have ever existed before prior to now, thank god for Trumpiestilskin

So someone planted a bomb in Soros's mailbox. That's where we are now, I guess.

false flag

the caravan is clearly organized, I don't think by people in the US, to highlight the plight even more; but it does seem to have had the opposite effect in the US.

Well, they're brown.

false flag

― i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, October 23, 2018 10:47 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i c what u did

Most of my school friends’ family cabins are still fairly old school but happy to report best grade school friend with a bare-bones resort compound right next to Breezy Point has upgraded to indoor plumbing.

― suzy, Tuesday, October 23, 2018 7:35 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they are a dying breed of cabin though, real estate prices have been so high, my father in law sold his for a tear down, it's too much money to turn down

just in general esp lake front cabins are for the upper middle class and above now, with some of the family ones still there, but to portray it as all these shacks with outhouses is like saying Uptown is a "hip neighborhood" in 2018

not content to merely be state media, fox news is now moving into the immigration enforcement space

"We seem to have foiled this attempt": Fox News reporter @GriffJenkins confronts migrants at the border. pic.twitter.com/f2I64bI1bG

— Matt Shuham (@mattshuham) October 23, 2018

watch to the very end for an interview with a person who has been caught explaining that they're leaving honduras because corruption makes it impossible to live, to which the reporter follows-up with "...but they're not all women and children, in the last 48 hours a man wanted for murder in South Carolina was arrested here along with another member of the 18th street violent gang."

he seems very exercised about busting people for a misdemeanour huh

18th street violent gang forever locked in warfare with the J Street truant society

My friend also mentioned some ridiculous rich televangelist had his lake place next to their family compound and it is a point of honour for her (and her siblings, all of whom have 4-6 kids) to basically be the Clampetts whenever Reverend Idiot is in residence.

Nothing brings these people to the poles more than unfounded fears of brown people invading thier houses. This is bad for the midterms

I wish they moved to the poles

lol ugh

I really hope people are holding their family, friends, people they want to hold hands with or fuck accountable during these elections.

i tried but the people who brought me into this world are self-professed one-issue voters (abortion). they literally don't care about anything else republicans or trump do, as long as they are anti-choice. i did notice a democrat in their area running with a bold blue dog / anti-choice agenda, but we've had some family tragedies recently and it just hasn't felt like the right time to call out of the blue and say "hey mom i know you reflexively vote republican because of abortion but i wanted to let you know that there's a Democrat that is ALSO against abortion and i'd like you to vote for him because at least he gets some of the other issues right!"

“Holding people accountable” assumes we have authority over our loved ones. We don’t. We can try to influence them but scolding doesn’t work when dealing with adults.

sorry to mention the new perlstein book again, but reading it has solidified the general idea that so many of the things that seem absurd and wrong today are just a continuation of things that been happening far longer than i've been alive. trump just tweeted something with the hashtag #jobsnotmobs - he's the living embodiment of the strategies of nixon and reagan

I only know people who vote Democrat; I am sure there are Republicans in my extended family on my mom's side but the odds are good I will never see or speak to them again anyway. Most of my friends are probably further left than I am. I still don't know how people could wind up having friends they disagree with on, like, whether trans people exist.

Karl malone did you see https://thebaffler.com/salvos/time-bandits-perlstein

which new Perlstein?

this is intellectually embarrassing and extremely bad politics, and he should cut along with pelosi after the election

Make no mistake: Despicable acts of violence and harassment are being carried out by radicals across the political spectrum—not just by one side. Regardless of who is responsible, these acts are wrong and must be condemned by Democrats and Republicans alike. Period. pic.twitter.com/gopVUDO5dc

— Chuck Schumer (@SenSchumer) October 23, 2018

barf

he's been a Schmuck on both siiiides now

no one's told Chuck that Tim Russert's dead.

Dear world: stop acting like the GOP has a valid point or a leg to stand on.

Chuck is probably a hundred times worse than Nancy

Every time you compartmentalize shit into sides of mutual equivalence, you validate the side of extremity. Fuck that shit, and fuck you if you do that shit.

I had A Moment today driving to my job at a public university attended mostly by the children of Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis supporters; this is just to show that I'm not all stern-looks-over-bifocals in this thread.

no amount of capitulating is gonna stop trump and his ilk from calling the dems an angry mob

just garbage political instincts.

meanwhile, on the jugular side

(A) report published by the Council of Economic Advisers warns that "socialism is making a comeback in American political discourse," and zeroes in on proposals to enact "Medicare for all" championed by progressive lawmakers.

The report comes between an op-ed by Trump in USA Today decrying government-run health-care proposals — which included a series of claims that were subsequently torn apart by fact-checkers — and the midterm elections in November, where Democrats are favored in most generic ballot polls to reclaim a majority in the House of Representatives.

"It is not unusual for the White House to issue statements that reinforce the political themes the president's party is campaigning on before an election," said veteran election attorney Brett Kappel, a partner at Akerman. "But it is very unusual for the Council of Economic Advisers — a supposedly nonpartisan body of experts — to be used for this purpose," he said.

In a conference call with reporters Tuesday morning, the council's chairman, Kevin Hassett, said that "proposals on the table, like the Medicare for all proposal," are "very consistent with the design of socialism." He added that his role on the economic council "isn't to be a politician, it's to be an analyst."

Hassett did not reveal how much time and money were spent on the report.

The report, entitled "The Opportunity Costs of Socialism," does not directly attack Democratic politicians as political candidates, which could potentially be seen as a violation of the Hatch Act's restrictions on executive branch employees' political activities.

But it does refer numerous times to Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., a self-described democratic socialist who ran for president as a Democrat in 2016 and offered a sweeping health-care overhaul.

And under the heading "The Socialist Economic Narrative: Exploitation Corrected by Central Planning," the report associates Sanders and possible 2020 presidential contender Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., with famous figures often considered icons of leftist politics and ideology: Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin and Mao Zedong.

"The socialist narrative names the oppressors of the vulnerable, such as the bourgeoisie (Marx), kulaks (Lenin), landlords (Mao), and giant corporations (Sanders and Warren)," the report says.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/10/23/white-house-issues-report-slamming-socialism-as-trump-blasts-democrats.html

naming the oppressors of the vulnerable - my god! what next???

has anyone gotten an even somewhat accurate headcount of the caravan? read on here yesterday that it was 1,000. saw some right winger say it was 12,000+. just heard a Trumper on MSNBC say 7,000. wtf?

it is definitely more than 1000. i don't want to google for sure, because i don't feel like looking at a bunch of sensationalism and/or propaganda

get yourself a mug of hot tea, slip off your shoes, and relax with the stats

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44430912_2204404869771090_9062668319282167808_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=4dd86bb60e46e157509a7deb606584cc&oe=5C84198C

that 'opportunity costs' report is delightful

liquidate the giant corporations

lmaoooooooo hoos

Stopping the caravan is not just about national security or preventing crime, it is also about national sovereignty and the rule of law. Those who seek to come to America must do so the right and legal way.

— Tyler Q. Houlton (@SpoxDHS) October 23, 2018

presenting yourself at the border and seeking asylum is the right and legal way you fuckin dum dums

chotiner strikes again

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/david-gelernter-donald-trump-why-liberals-hate-trump-op-ed.html