US Politics, October 2018: next week will be even longer

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yeah i guess you might see something about which groups of voters are turning out...i think reading all those jon ralston tweets about high nevada turnout in 2016 made me complacent about the actual election. and ralston was right about hilary winning nevada! it just didn't signify anything else.

shwarmaduke (symsymsym), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 04:36 (five years ago) link

(sorry for triggering anyone's ptsd btw)

shwarmaduke (symsymsym), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 04:37 (five years ago) link

will no-one think of the summer homes hundreds of miles away from the border

But Mr. Trump’s dystopian imagery has clearly left an impression with some. Carol Shields, 75, a Republican in northern Minnesota, said she was afraid that migrant gangs could take over people’s summer lake homes in the state.

“What’s to stop them?” said Ms. Shields, a retired accountant. “We have a lot of people who live on lakes in the summer and winter someplace else. When they come back in the spring, their house would be occupied.”

from this nyt story about migrant caravan hysteria: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/22/us/politics/republicans-race-divisions-elections-caravan.html

i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 10:51 (five years ago) link

Recall that super-insane radical leftist George Soros recently said his main hope for US politics was a return to bipartisanship, and that he admires France's corporate center-right president Emmanuel Macron https://t.co/epe2Tbzuqx

— Jon Schwarz (@schwarz) October 23, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 11:25 (five years ago) link

Have you SEEN people’s lake cabins in Minnesota? Outdoor toilets and showers featured until VERY recently.

suzy, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:03 (five years ago) link

The “migrant caravan” seems oddly timed. Do immigrants ofte travel this way? In a pack of 1,000?

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:04 (five years ago) link

bg, the fact that you know more about the geography of MN than a resident of MN goes a long way toward explaining the mess we currently find ourselves in, I feel.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:06 (five years ago) link

Yeah we won’t know what the early vote numbers mean until Election Day, but anecdotally they’re running super high here in East Tennessee. In the 2014 midterms there were about 54.000 total early voters in my county. As of yesterday, through five days of early voting with nine more to go, there were already 45,000.

(Xposts)

in a bit of fun timing, I'm in a production of Sondheim's Assassins as of last week and playing Samuel Byck

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:09 (five years ago) link

good mourning!

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:12 (five years ago) link

Have you SEEN people’s lake cabins in Minnesota? Outdoor toilets and showers featured until VERY recently.

― suzy, Tuesday, October 23, 2018 7:03 AM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Old school cabins up north are very very few and far between anymore, they've been sold and torn down esp in the last 15 years

I think lake homes is more accurate now

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:13 (five years ago) link

i do enjoy the thought of ms-13 members eagerly rolling up to seize some septuagenarian's lake house only to be struck dumb with horror at the state of the plumbing

i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:28 (five years ago) link

Most of my school friends’ family cabins are still fairly old school but happy to report best grade school friend with a bare-bones resort compound right next to Breezy Point has upgraded to indoor plumbing.

suzy, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:35 (five years ago) link

ilxmail me the address and i'll pass it along the george soros grapevine to ensure that isis know where to go when they reach minnesota

i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:38 (five years ago) link

Not until I get that SorosDollars cheque I’ve been expecting, it’s LATE.

suzy, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:49 (five years ago) link

Trump: We’ve got Ted Cruz here tonight! Great guy, great guy. His wife looks like shit! But Ted is great. He’s a big, beautiful baby, aren’t you Ted?
Ted Cruz (naked except for a diaper): Yes ...
Trump: Say it, Ted
Ted Cruz: ... papa

— pixelated (something halloween-related) (@pixelatedboat) October 23, 2018

Cruz will be re-elected by a 10-point margin, of course.

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 13:24 (five years ago) link

Dude, I just about sprayed my monitor with a mouthful of coffee. A little heads up next time.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 13:28 (five years ago) link

"They have a word, it sort of became old-fashioned....we’re not supposed to use that word."

I wonder how hard it would be to get Trump to label himself a fascist.

jmm, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 13:31 (five years ago) link

c'mon, he'd never ally himself with a leftwing political philosophy

i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 13:33 (five years ago) link

lol

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link

Do immigrants often travel this way?

iirc there was a similar caravan a while back, maybe a year ago.

visiting, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link

Fuck this caravan thing is turning out to be high octane fuel for these racist mainiacs and thier followers.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link

“What’s to stop them?” said Ms. Shields, a retired accountant. “We have a lot of people who live on lakes in the summer and winter someplace else. When they come back in the spring, their house would be occupied.”

lol I'm imagining local cops standing around saying "What can we do?" rather than running to the artillery closet

President Keyes, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

xpost yeah it sucks that squatters aren't a thing that have ever existed before prior to now, thank god for Trumpiestilskin

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link

So someone planted a bomb in Soros's mailbox. That's where we are now, I guess.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link

false flag

i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 14:47 (five years ago) link

the caravan is clearly organized, I don't think by people in the US, to highlight the plight even more; but it does seem to have had the opposite effect in the US.

akm, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:03 (five years ago) link

Well, they're brown.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link

false flag

― i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, October 23, 2018 10:47 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i c what u did

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:07 (five years ago) link

Most of my school friends’ family cabins are still fairly old school but happy to report best grade school friend with a bare-bones resort compound right next to Breezy Point has upgraded to indoor plumbing.

― suzy, Tuesday, October 23, 2018 7:35 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they are a dying breed of cabin though, real estate prices have been so high, my father in law sold his for a tear down, it's too much money to turn down

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link

just in general esp lake front cabins are for the upper middle class and above now, with some of the family ones still there, but to portray it as all these shacks with outhouses is like saying Uptown is a "hip neighborhood" in 2018

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

not content to merely be state media, fox news is now moving into the immigration enforcement space

"We seem to have foiled this attempt": Fox News reporter @GriffJenkins confronts migrants at the border. pic.twitter.com/f2I64bI1bG

— Matt Shuham (@mattshuham) October 23, 2018

watch to the very end for an interview with a person who has been caught explaining that they're leaving honduras because corruption makes it impossible to live, to which the reporter follows-up with "...but they're not all women and children, in the last 48 hours a man wanted for murder in South Carolina was arrested here along with another member of the 18th street violent gang."

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link

he seems very exercised about busting people for a misdemeanour huh

i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:02 (five years ago) link

18th street violent gang forever locked in warfare with the J Street truant society

President Keyes, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link

My friend also mentioned some ridiculous rich televangelist had his lake place next to their family compound and it is a point of honour for her (and her siblings, all of whom have 4-6 kids) to basically be the Clampetts whenever Reverend Idiot is in residence.

suzy, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:06 (five years ago) link

Nothing brings these people to the poles more than unfounded fears of brown people invading thier houses. This is bad for the midterms

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link

I wish they moved to the poles

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

lol ugh

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link

I really hope people are holding their family, friends, people they want to hold hands with or fuck accountable during these elections.

Yerac, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link

i tried but the people who brought me into this world are self-professed one-issue voters (abortion). they literally don't care about anything else republicans or trump do, as long as they are anti-choice. i did notice a democrat in their area running with a bold blue dog / anti-choice agenda, but we've had some family tragedies recently and it just hasn't felt like the right time to call out of the blue and say "hey mom i know you reflexively vote republican because of abortion but i wanted to let you know that there's a Democrat that is ALSO against abortion and i'd like you to vote for him because at least he gets some of the other issues right!"

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:29 (five years ago) link

“Holding people accountable” assumes we have authority over our loved ones. We don’t. We can try to influence them but scolding doesn’t work when dealing with adults.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link

sorry to mention the new perlstein book again, but reading it has solidified the general idea that so many of the things that seem absurd and wrong today are just a continuation of things that been happening far longer than i've been alive. trump just tweeted something with the hashtag #jobsnotmobs - he's the living embodiment of the strategies of nixon and reagan

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link

I only know people who vote Democrat; I am sure there are Republicans in my extended family on my mom's side but the odds are good I will never see or speak to them again anyway. Most of my friends are probably further left than I am. I still don't know how people could wind up having friends they disagree with on, like, whether trans people exist.

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link

Karl malone did you see https://thebaffler.com/salvos/time-bandits-perlstein

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link

which new Perlstein?

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link

this is intellectually embarrassing and extremely bad politics, and he should cut along with pelosi after the election

Make no mistake: Despicable acts of violence and harassment are being carried out by radicals across the political spectrum—not just by one side. Regardless of who is responsible, these acts are wrong and must be condemned by Democrats and Republicans alike. Period. pic.twitter.com/gopVUDO5dc

— Chuck Schumer (@SenSchumer) October 23, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link

barf

portugal. the bland (sleeve), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link


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