OK, so here's what I found regarding "SLH" :Here's how it was done (rough description):
Recorded the strings in key of E (tape running at 50 cycles, 50 cycles = standard tape "speed") Raised the recording of #1 in speed which altered tempo slightly and raised the key to "F" (tape running at 53 cycles) On top of #2 the vocals were laid down on different track (tape running at 53 cycles) Edited - cut out solo violin riffs after every refrain (tape running at 53 cycles) Mono mix was made (tape running at 53 cycles)Then later, when the Stereo mix was made in 1967, they "forgot" to use tape machine "speed" of 53 cycles and instead used 50, which resulted in orchestra sounding as it was recorded, but Paul's vocals became slightly slurry and slowed down (although not as much as John's vocals in SFF after the edit of two versions in the 2nd half).2017 Stereo version uses the original decision of speed/pitch of 1967 Mono mix. There's a reason Paul (or whoever) raised the orchestra recording in speed/pitch almost a semi-tone for further work, even at that point I guess he felt it was a bit of a drag, even though the total running time differences are minimal.
Raised the recording of #1 in speed which altered tempo slightly and raised the key to "F" (tape running at 53 cycles)
On top of #2 the vocals were laid down on different track (tape running at 53 cycles)
Edited - cut out solo violin riffs after every refrain (tape running at 53 cycles)
Mono mix was made (tape running at 53 cycles)
Then later, when the Stereo mix was made in 1967, they "forgot" to use tape machine "speed" of 53 cycles and instead used 50, which resulted in orchestra sounding as it was recorded, but Paul's vocals became slightly slurry and slowed down (although not as much as John's vocals in SFF after the edit of two versions in the 2nd half).
2017 Stereo version uses the original decision of speed/pitch of 1967 Mono mix. There's a reason Paul (or whoever) raised the orchestra recording in speed/pitch almost a semi-tone for further work, even at that point I guess he felt it was a bit of a drag, even though the total running time differences are minimal.
So it's only the "old" stereo version that was different. The mono and new mix are same as the original mono apparently !
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 22 October 2018 10:44 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I can imaging the old Mono was the benchmark.
― Mark G, Monday, 22 October 2018 10:50 (five years ago) link
I can't stop listening to the remixed WMGJW, even though I agree it's maybe a little too clean. Very excited to hear the rest.
― Alba, Monday, 22 October 2018 13:05 (five years ago) link
Very curious about "Revolution #9" remix. Maybe Giles will booost up his dad and Alistair Taylor talking about wine so much, it'll sound more like an intro than the Can You Take Me Back snippet.
― pplains, Monday, 22 October 2018 13:53 (five years ago) link
They've boosted George's caterwauling at the end, which makes the "weeping" conceit even cornier.
― dinnerboat, Monday, 22 October 2018 14:03 (five years ago) link
Only complaint: I prefer how the outro vocals are de-emphasized on the original mix.
I don't think anyone, anywhere, has ever said about a McCartney-sung track, "I wish I could hear more of Paul's ad-libbed scatting."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 22 October 2018 14:05 (five years ago) link
Yes, the pained caterwauling is a bit much. xpost
― Alba, Monday, 22 October 2018 14:15 (five years ago) link
After listening to the "Back in the USSR" and "WMGJW" remixes I have to say I don't hear a lot of differences with the remastered versions...Nothing compared to the Pepper remix (which I find great).
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 09:05 (five years ago) link
Too bad Manson never got the chance to hear the remix.
― pplains, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link
That's right, I just re-used a 30-year-old Dennis Miller joke.
finally giving this a listen, yeah, the bass is a bit fucking loud isn't it?
― akm, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link
Speaking of bass : listening again to the "Srawberry Fields Forever" remix reminded me that I always thought the bass was not as present as it is in all/most of the tracks of that period.You can hear it of coure, but it's not that HUGE round thing that hits you like on all the other tracks of Pepper and MMT.It's even less present than on many Revolver era tracks ("Rain", "Tomorrow Never Knows"...).
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 09:33 (five years ago) link
Breakfast With The Beatles played Good Night take 10 (with a guitar part from take 7) and that's a thing of wonder. A country song almost; Lennon on backing vocals!
― piscesx, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link
Wow ! I suppose that's as close as we're ever gonna get to that song sung by Lennon...
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link
you can hear it here
https://vimeo.com/296786291
― Number None, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link
whoah nice!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 22:25 (five years ago) link
oh that's really nice. that's the other beatles on backing vocals presumably?
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, 25 October 2018 06:50 (five years ago) link
Fantastic !It's about 100x more moving than the official version...I really don't like that guitar (or is it some kind of keyboard ?) sound though.
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 25 October 2018 08:15 (five years ago) link
I like this! But I think I prefer the original, especially in context. I can't imagine something as straightforward and earthy as this guitar-based arrangement coming after "Revolution 9" -- it had to be an absurdly exaggerated Disney score to close the record (or, if I'm gonna get all Greil Marcus, to close 1968).
(or is it some kind of keyboard ?)
It sounds like a varispeeded 12-string, or maybe a 12-sring with a capo way up on the neck.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
yeah pretty cool — the dear prudence/julia-style guitar on there works!
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 October 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link
Revolution (Take 18)https://vimeo.com/296786291
― Alba, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 13:49 (five years ago) link
Oops wrong urlhttps://vimeo.com/297813111
― Alba, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link
nice ! a few years ago there was another take that was released of Rev1/9 that was great and showed the evolution of the song.As for the "Good Night" version, I can see why one would prefer the official version but it also works as a link to their following policy of "back to basics/no overdubs" to have that very simple arrangement.
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 09:15 (five years ago) link
Revolution is batshit - although fascinating I can understand why George Martin didn't want to work with them on these sessions.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 09:44 (five years ago) link
a few years ago there was another take that was released of Rev1/9
thought this was the same one tbh but I didn't check
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link
ah yeah, maybe. I don't remember very well but I thought the previous one was less "complete" from the song to the collage.
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link
The one Alba posted is the same basic track as the “Take 20” that leaked a few years ago (and the “Revolution 1” on the original album). “Take 20” had backing vocals and all the collagey overdubs that were instead used on “Revolution 9,” while this mix is stripped down. While I’m a little disappointed that “Take 20” isn’t getting an official release, I love this mix. Lennon’s vocalizations are terrifying — he learned a lot from Yoko in a very short time.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link
Ah yeah ! There were great backing vocals on that take !
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link
yeah that's the one with the "mama/papa" background vox, iirc
― Darin, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link
Exactly ! Loved that take. Actually I think I liked it more than both official revolutions !
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 20:52 (five years ago) link
Apparently, there’s a “new” “Glass Onion” “video” (the “Hey Bulldog” footage used for the nth time). I tried to open it, but apparently you can’t do so without letting Apple Music sync all your shit, and I don’t feel like destroying the music on my phone at the moment.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link
You can watch it through this reddit post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/beatles/comments/9sv6vj/heres_the_new_glass_onion_music_video/?utm_source=reddit-android"> https://www.reddit.com/r/beatles/comments/9sv6vj/heres_the_new_glass_onion_music_video/?utm_source=reddit-android
It really is worth a look
― nate woolls, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link
Don't know why there's two links there but the second one seems to work
― nate woolls, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link
listening to that revolution take now. I loved Take 20 so I hope this measures up. Shame if they didn't put 20 on here, or something closely approximating it.
― akm, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link
ok this seems close and it doesn't have that loud annoying fucking noise in it that 20 had i liked the effects on 20 that really married this to #9.
― akm, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:45 (five years ago) link
that "glass onion" video is great and the remix sounds really good
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link
Yellow Submarine Songtrack and the two BBC sets are up on Spotify now.
― timellison, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 23:58 (five years ago) link
apple music too though weirdly the spoken tracks aren't for some reason. not a huge loss but I'm kind of used to them ('dear whack!')
― akm, Thursday, 1 November 2018 06:40 (five years ago) link
Glass Onion 2018 mix, Take 10 and Esher demo now up on Spotify.
― Alba, Friday, 2 November 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link
And the video is on YouTube
https://youtu.be/aBQIAWh3YBs
― nate woolls, Friday, 2 November 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link
Brilliant video. Made by 'Trunk animation' whoever they may be.
I still don't think much to these new remixes; they turned the bass up too high again on this one.
― piscesx, Saturday, 3 November 2018 00:32 (five years ago) link
Bass was pretty loud on the original stereo, I think.
― timellison, Saturday, 3 November 2018 03:28 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I think the bass guitar is more prominent on the original mix.
I like this one; it's got a lot more space than the original mix. They centered the drums (with a snare overdub still in the right channel), the strings are more lush, and the electric guitar part seems more prominent...or, at least, I noticed things about it that I'd never noticed before. Weirdly, the string outro is mono. Maybe that was unavoidable.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 3 November 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link
Cool video
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Monday, 5 November 2018 11:50 (five years ago) link
Just listened to "Glass Onion" on the good headphones... this one was pretty cool! Kinda surprised they took out the background "yeeeaAAAHHH!" wail at 1:12, but it works.
― pplains, Monday, 5 November 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link
Nice little piece about the Esher demos -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urK03fLl0i8
― MaresNest, Thursday, 8 November 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
This is good, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG85fF-CZBI
Giles Martin plays an outtake of Julia at 18:24 with John trying out a different approach of the song with George Martin. It's really lovely.
― Darin, Thursday, 8 November 2018 23:49 (five years ago) link
I'm only at Rocky Racoon but so far I think that these are really marginal gains.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 9 November 2018 05:59 (five years ago) link
Yeah the whole thing is on Spotify !
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 9 November 2018 07:06 (five years ago) link
First listen thoughts:Outside the tracks already premiered, the most revelations come towards the end. Long Long Long was always going to be radical and though you can't really argue with giving it more typical levels it's one that I'll always notice most and think "well this isn't the original album)Cry Baby Cry has another one where the crisp bouncy bassline stands outWtf @ this George Martin chat at the start of Revolution No 9? Was that even there at all before? Elsewhere there's a low-frequency John incantation around Yoko's 'you become naked' bit that I'm into.Goodnight sounds absolutely GORGEOUS.
― Alba, Friday, 9 November 2018 09:09 (five years ago) link