US Politics, October 2018: next week will be even longer

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please allow me to introduce myself, i'm a man of inherited wealth and zero taste

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 21 October 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link

I thought the Trumps had been asked or told not to use the Stones music among requests for the same from other bands.

Stevolende, Sunday, 21 October 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link

what a devastating breach of social decorum

21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 21 October 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link

What him living and breathing? Yeah I'd say so.

JUst heard that a lot of bands were asking what should be a prestigious usage under normal circumstances to avoid it cos they didn't want the association.

Stevolende, Sunday, 21 October 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link

that gives the rolling stones a good reason to email all their fans and tell them that trump sucks. probably wouldn't make much of a difference, but it might reach a more trump-loving demographic than taylor swift

Karl Malone, Sunday, 21 October 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link

In other words, the Trump-Bolton synthesis does not embrace the positive realist principles of prudence and restraint. It favors a major and costly expansions of military capabilities coupled with a more bellicose and belligerent approach to international relations. It envisions a fortress America, but one committed to international power projection. In broad terms, there are two possible outcomes of this approach. Perhaps the United States succeeds in making the rest of the world much more dependent on military tools of statecraft, and thus creates a more conflictual international system in which the great powers need to divert ever-increasing resources towards military capabilities. Or maybe the rest of the world tells the United States to piss off, leaving Washington increasingly isolated and, in relative terms, facing a growing gap when it coms to non-military instruments of power and influence.

None of these outcomes are good for the Americans. Old-style conservatives thought that their antipathy toward international entanglements would allow the United States to keep its defense budgets low, and prevent a garrison state. The Trump-Bolton synthesis turns this on its head. Indeed, when it comes to enhancing American military security, the Trump-Bolton synthesis relies on magical thinking. It’s not just that neither of these worlds are particularly good for national security or liberty. It’s also that the Trump administration wants the United States to be a military powerhouse while cutting taxes. As I’ve argued before, postwar American military power depended not simply on large military budgets, but in massive investments in infrastructure and human capital. The Trump administration wants to starve those investments and shift them in ways that maximize the ability of private interests—such as the for-profit education sector, private security contractors, construction firms, and the financial sector—to extract rents.

How will the United States maintain, say, the educational achievement, scientific investment, and transportation infrastructure necessary to undergird a robust national defense? “Something something tax cuts something something the power of the market something something privatization.” In other words, it can’t and it won’t.


http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/10/national-security-magical-thinking

Karl Malone, Sunday, 21 October 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link

It's cheering to see Trump's support on the 538 poll aggregator the equal highest since March 2017.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 22 October 2018 00:39 (five years ago) link

As y'all know I'm not a fellow carried away on clouds of enthusiasm, but Andrew Gillum wiped the floor with a nervous, giggling, smirking Ron DeSantis during their CNN debate, which ended a few minutes ago. I had a couple friends FB messaging me wondering, "Damn, can he run for governor in Illinois?"

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 October 2018 01:11 (five years ago) link

This was masterful:

Democrat Andrew Gillum’s closing statement: “We want better… I'm asking you all for the only thing in life that my mother ever told me to ask for and that’s a chance. I want to be your governor. Let's bring it home.” #FLGovDebate https://t.co/2k8aILDzDU pic.twitter.com/LAqQimLDjE

— CNN (@CNN) October 22, 2018

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 October 2018 01:24 (five years ago) link

Fun little update on the Roger Stone front:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/special-counsel-examines-conflicting-accounts-as-scrutiny-of-roger-stone-and-wikileaks-deepens/2018/10/21/db9ab1c2-bde5-11e8-be70-52bd11fe18af_story.html

It's not so much interesting in terms of a 'here is the answer' as it is watching three people -- Stone, Randy Credico and, indirectly, Jerome Corsi -- dodge and weave around to trying to explain all their bombast, and happily blaming others. Which itself shows the pressure they're facing. That said, unspoken in all this -- he's not mentioned by name here, I think -- is Manafort. This article draws on what's being said to a grand jury, but now that Manafort's spilling, whatever he's yet said has so far not openly factored in. Anyway, it grinds on.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 October 2018 01:39 (five years ago) link

Stone with the profile view This Facial Expression there

I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 22 October 2018 02:03 (five years ago) link

In truth, the most formidable obstacle to responsive government in the U.S. is — and always has been — the disproportionate power that economic elites wield over its political system. Influencing elections and legislative processes requires investments of time, money, and attention. Wealthy individuals and corporations can easily shoulder such expenses; ordinary voters can’t. This simple reality — that economic power is easily converted into the political variety — is an inherent constraint on popular sovereignty in all (capitalist) democracies. But it’s a constraint that can be more or less restrictive, depending on how unequally wealth is distributed, how easily large masses of ordinary people can organize politically, and how effectively outsize political spending is regulated or socially stigmatized. More concretely, policymaking tends to be more responsive to popular concerns in nations with strong labor unions, as such institutions help secure workers a larger share of economic growth, while also enabling working-class voters to collectivize the costs of political engagement.

In the contemporary United States, however, unions are on the verge of extinction; the richest 0.1 percent of the population commands as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent; and legal restrictions on political spending are effectively nonexistent. The Koch Network plans to spend $400 million electing its preferred Congress this November; corporate America is poised to spend upwards of $2 billion lobbying it next year. Given these conditions, one wouldn’t be expect policymaking to reflect popular preferences, no matter the social makeup of the nation’s two political parties.

After all, the last time organized labor was this weak and wealth, this concentrated, it was the Gilded Age. And that era was plagued by governance so unresponsive to public needs, the average height and life expectancy of ordinary Americans declined during it, even as their nation grew immensely wealthier. It is true that Democratic and Republican voters were bitterly divided and socially isolated in this period. But few would cite a dearth of “cross-pressured” voters as the principal reason why the federal government did not provide more relief to the unemployed during the Panic of 1893; or immiserated small farmers with deflationationary monetary policies throughout the late 19th century; or routinely massacred striking workers. The disparate economic power — and political organization — of corporate elites and ordinary workers is a much more intuitive explanation for the government’s failures in that period. It remains so in ours.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/10/polarization-tribalism-the-conservative-movement-gop-threat-to-democracy.html

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 22 October 2018 03:08 (five years ago) link

Thanks for that.

DJI, Monday, 22 October 2018 04:16 (five years ago) link

who in dis bitch has voted already?

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 22 October 2018 13:15 (five years ago) link

King County (WA) absentee ballot arrived Saturday, with a bonus option of dropping ballots at local libraries to save a stamp. Will be turning my ballot in this week. Every day's mail brings several ads pro/con initiatives. It's fun to read why a certain state initiative is incredibly bad for voters, and then check the sponsors to see that petroleum manufacturers are benevolently looking out for the little people.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 22 October 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link

this is incredibly fucked up:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/22/middleeast/saudi-operative-jamal-khashoggi-clothes/index.html

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 22 October 2018 13:45 (five years ago) link

i fucking loathe writing this, but uh these guys weren't very PRO and i am sure i don't begin to know (nor do i want to know) what PRO means in wet work.

Hunt3r, Monday, 22 October 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link

I voted already. NYC.

Yerac, Monday, 22 October 2018 14:05 (five years ago) link

the plankton with a hairpiece (© alfred) brings his nuanced understanding of world affairs to the khashoggi murder

https://preview.redd.it/gomojookvqt11.jpg?width=727&auto=webp&s=e39fa01ad36f93a89177b382e580f14b973705ec

i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 October 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link

The grief of Khashoggi's friends and loved ones and the outrage of everyone who values justice pales in comparison with the inconvenience felt by our beloved leader. This whole thing is just like so annoying, you guys, seriously. Sad!

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 October 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link

it's totally harshing the prez's mellow

i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 October 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link

If the GOP hasn't wholly succeeded in purging anything that would've made them seem identifiably human, they're very nearly there.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 October 2018 15:15 (five years ago) link

how could we have known this country which did 9/11 would one day cause an international incident

i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 October 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link

tbf, telling trump he has been disrespected (or any other kind of public personal appeal, see, e.g. https://la.curbed.com/2018/10/11/17961850/beverly-hills-purple-line-walkout-trump-schools) seems like the most effective way of changing his mind about something.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 22 October 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

"You winning in 2020 would be disrespectful to your legacy!"

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 22 October 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link

'You should really stick it to that disrespectful warning label by guzzling the entire bottle of drain cleaner.'

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 October 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link

I'm kinda of the opinion at this point that human beings need to maybe just shut the entire fuck up for like a decade or so until they learn how to use words for something other than barfing out torrents of garbage.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 October 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link

https://youtu.be/-AfYWg1t0R4

Οὖτις, Monday, 22 October 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link

fuck yeah

eat in hell mitch

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 22 October 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link

perhaps of note that that was in Louisville and not DC

Οὖτις, Monday, 22 October 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link

"lmao" in a dark hopeless way at Mitch's press sec railing against left-wing mobs while in the meantime Nancy Pelosi had Proud Boys who were rallied by the local GOP in Florida chasing her down.

omar little, Monday, 22 October 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link

No one who strives to erode the foundations of a society should be allowed to effortlessly enjoy that society's fruits. I sincerely hope this increasingly becomes the norm.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 October 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link

i think it would be a good idea for people to start carrying around little index cards with prepared speech-rants for specific political figures. that way when you see mitch mcconnell in the booth by the window you don't have to improvise

Karl Malone, Monday, 22 October 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link

i agree but it's a slippery slope, that justification could be used when a Dem senator is poisoned at an IHOP because they want to give Medicare to everyone.

omar little, Monday, 22 October 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link

Well but see the subtle difference in what I'm suggesting is that it involves making elected officials feel uncomfortable because of social pressure from constituents as opposed to the discomfort caused by a poisoning.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 October 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link

perhaps of note that that was in Louisville and not DC


Havana Rumba!!! We eat there on work trips all the time.

Heez, Monday, 22 October 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link

I was just on the Berkeley campus yesterday and was stopped by a couple of students doing a project on the importance of voting who wanted to record my response to a question or two. I was about to say something but stopped and asked for a bit to get my thoughts together first. Which I did and I think because of that I was relatively lucid and coherent.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 October 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link

Fuck yeah: finally some Democrats who know how to fight Trumpists.

https://youtu.be/msxropCGhls

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 October 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link

After this and Andrew Gillum's performance last night, I feel temporarily good.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 October 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link

it would be interesting if decades of Saudi-friendliness in DC starts slipping away in part b/c of WaPo putting "Remember the Maine" on the front page every day for a month

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Monday, 22 October 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link

“Shock report: US paying more for illegal immigrant births than Trump’s wall” https://t.co/FX3ljN7kPS

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 22, 2018

who is shocked by this, I spent more on coffee today than the US has paid for Trump's wall

frogbs, Monday, 22 October 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link

waiting for the trump admin to do predator drone strikes on the caravan from honduras

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 22 October 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link

Uh - what the fuck?

BlackIronPrison, Monday, 22 October 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link

re: hyperlink I posted above - I'm convinced the Georgia GOP is run outta Stone Mountain.

BlackIronPrison, Monday, 22 October 2018 19:02 (five years ago) link

can't they just be satisfied eating their carp po' boys with extra chuckle?

evol j, Monday, 22 October 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link

i mean its pretty standard these days to have a Name attached to your turnout texts -- "Hi Justin, this is Alyssa Milano/Elizabeth Warren/Pres. Obama, can I count on you to vote for our guy?"

if anything this is probably a 'did our people actually go vote or not' strategy that, granted, preys on the same kind of people every THIS IS NANCY PELOSI, I'M BEGGING YOU email does

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 22 October 2018 19:31 (five years ago) link

THIS IS PRES. TRUMP, I TOUCH YOU TOOTRBUSH WITH MY THING, YOU BETTER VOTE FOR GOP OR ITS UPPER DECKER CITY FOR YOU

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 October 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link

“He’s not ‘Lyin’ Ted anymore. He’s beautiful Ted,” Trump told reporters on the White House’s South Lawn.

Trump also said that he calls him Cruz and “Texas Ted.” He said he doesn’t regret claiming that Cruz’s father killed former president John F. Kennedy. “I don’t regret anything,” said the president.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 October 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link


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