Awesome Audiophile Snake Oil

https://www.atxrecordplayers.com/hosted/images/9c/fb6a916c0c11e8983bdfb25c0e06d1/unnamed-7.jpg

nice copy of atlas shrugged there, douchelord

https://www.atxrecordplayers.com/hosted/images/9c/fb6a916c0c11e8983bdfb25c0e06d1/unnamed-7.jpg

i see morrissey is a fan
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Record weights/clamps: worth it? do these really do anything? I kind of want one and I have no rational reason to. I see them ranging in price from like $30 to hundreds.

also, I see a fair number of 'changed consoles' with newer equipment in them . a lot of them are really beautiful; either old consoles or new ones built in older styles. If i had the space and money I'd completely buy one of those things. The Montgomery Wards coffin stereo we had as a kid is still, in my mind, the best sounding system I've ever heard.

personally I would never put a turntable inside a console like that (or any piece of furniture) for acoustic reasons

used to sell record clamps, but honestly never A/B'd them so not sure if they work

one of the best hifi systems I ever heard had a turntable as a main source and did not use a record clamp though, so if sound is your primary concern I would personally go speakers > pickup/turntable > riaa/amp > record clamps etc > snakeoil

If I got a brand consultant to design a sick visual identity for a brand of audio conditioning fluid called “snake oil” would it sell and would I ever get called out

if you call it Viper Grease (TM) or something, I could see that work

i used to seriously talk about selling Record Lotion

re: clamps I always thought they were BS but my boss says a good one basically flattens a record out if it has any imperfections and he thinks they're good so I dunno

this reminds me

can anyone recommend a decent pair of inexpensive (< $225/pair perhaps) speakers for a basic setup. i have older speakers (JBC or something?) that sound terrible lately.

The Andrew Jones Pioneer bookshelves

thanks! I owned some of those a million years ago, I think?

are the floor-standing ones just as good? those might make more sense for me...

(and i assume they'll still work with a literally 22-year-old receiver/amp)

or maybe 25-year?

sure, if the amp works why not?

lots of good bookshelf speakers in that price range, probably depends what's available in your local shop/market

the what hifi picks might be a good place to start

tbrr for a sec, some of the older receivers and amps have direct coupled outputs and the transistor biases and offsets have wandered over the years as the caps drifted. So if you have a multimeter, put it on the DC mV range and check at the speaker terminals. If it’s over say 100mV DC (not AC) the amp needs to be re biased or it will wear out the voice coils of some speaker types.

can anyone recommend a decent pair of inexpensive (< $225/pair perhaps) speakers for a basic setup. i have older speakers (JBC or something?) that sound terrible lately.

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The Andrew Jones Pioneer bookshelves

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Andrew Jones left Pioneer a few years back and now designs speakers for Elac; their Debut bookshelf speakers have brought in raves all around and are reasonably priced. The older Pioneers are still available too and still highly regarded. I haven't heard either yet.

As for using old receivers with new speakers, i've noticed that many new speakers are rated at 6 ohms impedance or even 4 whereas my old Marantz amp is designed for 8 ohm speakers. Is this a problem?

i have some old boston acoustics that are mismatched ohms w/the amp i have (can't remember which is 4 and which is 8 but they are def not the same)...anyway it works but the amp tends to get really hot, one time it shut down when i had it on all day, but overall it's worked

WRT: Elac I didn't know that, explains why I've been seeing them all over

anyway here's some good deals on them:

https://slickdeals.net/f/12134407-elac-debut-2-0-b6-2-bookshelf-speakers-249-98-elac-debut-2-0-c6-2-center-speaker-229-98-more?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1

The ELACs are really nice, the bookshelf model (B6.2) for $250 off Amazon is pretty reasonable.

As for using old receivers with new speakers, i've noticed that many new speakers are rated at 6 ohms impedance or even 4 whereas my old Marantz amp is designed for 8 ohm speakers. Is this a problem?

that's what I was wondering, too. the amplifier in my receiver is rated at: 100 Watt - 8 Ohm - 20000 Hz - THD 0.09%

and most of the speakers I've checked out are rated at 6 ohms

this is all kind of mysterious to me, to be honest, and i don't have the time or energy to do a deep audiophile dive on what it all means. should i find speakers rated for 8 ohms or just deal w/ the mismatch?

ok, i looked thru my receiver's manual, and it has this:

https://ptpimg.me/5s3x3u.png

i assume this is referring not to "individual speakers A and B" but to "speaker _system_ A and/or B"

so i would guess that if i get two speakers rated at 6 ohms, I could set the speaker impedance selector to the left position (which is more speakers rated 4 or 6 ohms) and be fine...?

er, which is *for speakers rated 4 or 6 ohms

got a brand consultant to design a sick visual identity

Isn't a crucial part of the snake-oil aesthetic the complete absence of sick visual identity? You don't buy Shakti Stones because they look cool or they're marketed well, you buy them because they REALLY WORK.

xxxxxxp I have Elacs, great for the price.

hmm good point, that's even easier. The Archie McPhee store has loads of like medical/scientific surplus bottles and I can just set up a website with a terrible shopping cart interface and fill the bottles with…I dunno, expired moisturizer?

honestly you could just put in WD40 and sell it as something to slather on your speaker/component connections and it wouldn't do any harm

perfect

hello I only lurk on this thread normally but wanted to say that unless you have a tube/valve amp then minor deviations from states impedance shouldn’t cause a problem

yeah iirc speakers don't have constant impedance anyway

thanks! i found a few articles that suggested the same -- that most widely-purchased consumer amps and speakers are broadly compatible despite the ohm-age unless you really crank your speakers up to an incredibly high volume.

i also read that if you empty a can of wd40 into each speaker and shake the around, you really improve their reproduction of high-hats and cymbals.

ok not audiophile snake oil but those console record players things above were stuck in my head, then my gf walked into a vintage market thing last weekend and uhhhhh i walked out having bought this thing (and i didn't know what thread to brag/lament about it in?)

https://i.imgur.com/p94G4aB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/m9OrqbO.jpg
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holy moses

ooooh lord wow

Hey that owns though, what a singular piece of garbage

geniunely don't know if i am excited about this or mad about it, it arrives saturday

worst part is i gotta move the fake-fireplace-mantel thing we JUST got for free from friends who were moving and i have no idea where to put it. what kind of fucking monster has two fake mantels in their 2nd floor apartment

have always thought one of those type things would make a funny stand for a little dj setup at a party or whatever.

Perhaps you could stack them into a Mantleplex

Holy shit, amazing

will that is something v special

Can imagine Don Draper or Sterling Cooper holding court while Mancini spins on the turntable.

Do you have those pix all in one imgur gallery? Because I'd love to share it.

i'm about to!

does this work? https://imgur.com/a/b7AVXfI

That works. Such a stunner, thanks!

i'll get more pics when it's in my home! (that's it still at the store. arrives friday)

SEX BOMB SEX BOMB ITS A SEX BOMB

from a headphone review:

"OMG these are fun. I’ve never heard songs with such control and resolution. They seem to “pace” songs better than I’ve heard from any other headphone or IEM."

also the cover art is more beautiful, and the songs on each album are in a better sequence than with any other headphones

my wife didn’t leave me when I hear music this way

lol silby

haha a+

Just saw another FB ad for those ATX consoles wherein the comments someone shared that the company quoted them $6500 for a system.