Political/History podcasts - Recommendations

wow that sounds dope

just listening to The Korean War in Britain, it's good stuff.

I skipped that one + went to the SR71 ep, better!

The History of the World podcast is about as unpretentious as its stated aim is grandiose. I know next-to-nothing about the creator but he's very good at synthesizing a lot of information and making it both palatable and conversational. And he really is trying to tackle all of human history and pre-history (it takes him two dozen episodes to start making his way out of the Neolithic).

(I'm sampling other ancient history podcasts atm and haven't been bowled over otherwise. The History of Ancient Greece seems all right but the dude's voice/accent/inflection/whatever is a seeeeeeeerious hurdle and I don't know how much longer I can keep jumping.)

sounds great tbh, thks

Yeah, I've subscribed as well.

sounds cool. I've checked some shows with a similar idea but they usually start with Sumeria

So what’s the hivemind take in Dan Carlin? I started his WWI series today and I really enjoyed it and found several points illuminating, but I’ve also always been a terrible student of history who finds even a lot of layperson works too dry, so maybe I’m just falling for the wow effects of appealing narratives that aren’t totally accurate.

I've never read anyone take him down as bad history but I hate his performance style so much I've never made it through an episode myself.

The criticism I've heard of Dan Carlin is that he represents old-school great man theory history, not sure how fair this is, but he's certainly a big fan of Churchill.

it is like listening to a dumb as fuck WWF commentator was my impression. Although since then a friend of mine from a public school background and much better educated than me said it is good stuff! I'm not convinced tbh.

i actually like the bombast, the "NPR" podcast style just drives me up a wall

haven't heard one of his podcasts in ages, but the stuff i was listening to was pretty decent history-wise. i don't entirely trust him politically, but for "history as disaster porn" (which tends to be the approach he takes) it's good!

There are four basic male voices I hear on US podcasts

* Old-timey transatlantic accent radio host voice
* Bombastic hype man voice
* Stand up comic chillin' with his bros voice
* An imitation of Ira Glass

TBH I find all of these weird and grating to different degrees, only the third one seems at all natural, but it has a very high correlation with pricks with nothing interesting to say. Ultimately the last one is the mark of a decent-ish show.

Yeah I was into the style even though I guffawed at a couple of the most OTT moments. I basically need someone shouting in my face like a carnival barker to not drift off while learning history, it's a sad truth about myself I've come to accept.

I've been trying to do the History of Rome podcast too -- the content is digestible enough but the sound quality and vocals on the early eps are just painfully bad and it makes it especially hard to listen in the car, where I do most of my podcast listening.

It can be a gateway. I got interested in Roman history after his Death of the Republic series. He’s pretty aware that his mode of history is out of style academically.

The guy who does the Martyrmade podcast seems like a right wing creep on Twitter, but his series of the founding of Israel and Jonestown are pretty great

Haven't gotten around to History of Rome yet but his later Revolutions podcast is great and suggests he's since ironed out whatever earlier kinks he'd experienced.

The first 50 episodes of HoR are kinda rough

It sounds like a guy muttering voice memos into his iPhone in a bathroom

British History Podcast guy went back and re-recorded his first 50 or so out of sheer embarrassment. I re-did my first one because I found some new recordings, not doing any others barring some amazing discoveries, not sure what I make is even a podcast as most people understand it anyway.

Revolutions is finally at the Russian Revolution. They are at episode 23, and introduced Lenin last episode. It's kinda hilarious.

The criticism I've heard of Dan Carlin is that he represents old-school great man theory history, not sure how fair this is, but he's certainly a big fan of Churchill.

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, November 26, 2019 9:24 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

First 1/3 of the first part of the WWI ep was certainly not very materialist in its analysis, although I wouldn't exactly say it was "great man theory" either -- if anything he seems enamored with the idea of random chance setting massive forces in motion (which, tbf, is kind of a standard way to read the start of WWI).

Yeah, I didn't find it to be true on the whole, that's the one I've listened to as well, but would like the judgement of an actual historian

im not a historian but my undergrad degree was in history and dan carlin isn't really intellectually rigorous enough for me

i also just don't like his voice

his padded out jibber jabbering is that lacking in content you could literally listen to half an hour without actually learning anything on a subject.

Mike Duncan hits the right middle ground of tone for me - conversational, direct but not boring.

I would bet those early eps were him just talking into whatever microphone was built into his laptop, though, it's true.

The Age of Napoleon guy is good too, and sticks to a similar length/pace

age of napoleon is very good

Wouldn't some of you lot get so much more from listening to classic audio books. Idk like C V Wedgwood.'s 30 years war. Barbara can't remember her surname' s magisterial Guns of August. I've tried to listen to him again earlier and he seems even more pointless than the first time I tried.

I'm against audiobooks for dumb reasons. i only listen to podcasts while cooking or walking alone

I like the 30-minute chunk format, I find it really digestible and I feel like I actually retain some of the info

(another reason I never got into Dan Carlin, aside from his obnoxious voice and aesthetic)

Audiobook history sounds good, but where to get these from? Audible is £8 per book, this is too much to justify when I will listen to it once only and the same book is usually just a couple of quid to actually buy.

Podcasts are written a very different way, I think. The conversational tone of the best podcasts is very appealing. Audiobooks take up all my concentration when I'm listening, I can't bike if I listen to an audiobook for instance. So I just read books instead. While I listen to music.

Yeah, podcasts and books are apples and oranges. The presentation of a podcast, if successful, is much more geared toward aural reception. I can't imagine trying to listen to someone narrate most of the history books I read.

I zone out on audiobooks and miss multiple 'pages,' for some reason that doesn't happen with podcasts.

Plus some of these things (Mike Duncan joints, History of England) are pulling from such a wide range of sources that they are, from a certain perspective, almost more useful than reading a single book. That said, my engagement with them is mostly as a supplement to stuff I'm actually reading.

Yeah. As someone who even sometimes finds myself missing key moments in podcasts, I would really struggle with an audiobook while driving.

Lol driving and audiobooking does sound quite hazardous tbf

I've enjoyed audiobooking stuff I've read before, Paradoxes of Power and Bloodlands are books that I felt I had enhanced experiences with taking them in both ways. Some audiobooks are worth paying £8 for if they have a decent reader, but others aren't worth shit. But I nab them from torrent sites so can't complain.

Just out of curiosity like... where can you torrent audiobooks? tpb has fuck all of any interest

all the formerly dependable stalwart torrent sites all seem to be dying in recent years I'm afraid. I used to use thegeeks.bz but lost my password and got locked out - i'll get back to you on that if I get back in and get an invite if you want. z00qle.com might be worth a try.

shit, managed to get back into thegeeks but have zero invites

lol, password was 1234abcd

dem0n01d.is

is still online, that used have some brilliant and rare audiobook torrents. But I haven't used it in ages and don't know if it has the same cache of torrents in it's current form. but deffo worth a try.

A LibGen for audiobooks would be amazing. Alas, I fear it's mostly newsgroups where it's at these days? I'm not on there. Slsk is a 50/50 success rate though.

his padded out jibber jabbering is that lacking in content you could literally listen to half an hour without actually learning anything on a subject.

― calzino

see this is kind of what i like about his podcasts - they're very long and you don't have to actually pay attention to anything he's saying. i like the sort of podcasts where i can just zone out for half an hour and not suddenly wake up and say "wait, what did i miss?". because if there's anything he's going to actually say he will SAY IT VERY LOUDLY and multiple times, i kind of need that with podcasts

the ira glass imitators may have good shows but that is a thing i just cannot do, i've tried, no. i'll do mid-atlantic accent guy or trailer voiceover guy, that's it.