Political/History podcasts - Recommendations

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oh i love Revolutions

when I needed to nerd out on the French Rev it was a godsend

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link

Only the dude from History of Rome does it better imo. But coming close is an achievement!!

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link

same dude, right?

President Keyes, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link

Eastern Border is a good show about Soviet History from the perspective of the common folk, if you can get over the host's Latvian accent and occasional bizarro opinions about US politics.

President Keyes, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I'm neck-deep in three different books about the French Revolution rn, and Duncan has pretty effortlessly cleared up basically any confusion or lingering questions that my reading material had failed to resolve. All while I'm working and only half paying attention.

Extra Shprankles (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link

My only complaint as I head into the homestretch is that he seems (understandably, as his wife was about to have a baby) to be rushing through a lot in order to wrap things up.

Extra Shprankles (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link

omg lol i didnt know it was the same guy

well that explains EVERYTHING

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link

seconding kingfish re: citations needed, it’s fkn great

himalayan mountain hole (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link

I've been liking "The British History Podcast." It's crazy detailed though. He's been going for 4 years, 174 episodes so far, and hasn't even reached 1066 yet. It's very much in the Mike Duncan style.

― Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Wednesday, September 2, 2015 9:35 PM (three years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He's got to episode 295 now, and the year 945, so still over a hundred years away from 1066, it really is a life's work. I came on board about five years back, blitzed the first hundred or so episodes while stuck in a hotel in Guangzhou, and have been listening since. His presenting style is really not to my taste, this almost put me off at times, but luckily I was too far invested by that point to quit. It's odd as I do still find so many of his quirks vaguely annoying, but it's like listening to a friend, I've just got used to them. And have to respect the ridiculous amount of work he puts into the show, little things like pronouncing obscure place names and words like 'borough' in the "correct" way, can't help but respect this.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link

Cold War Conversations - Cold War history, but on the street level. Fave episodes include a great interview with someone who put on underground punk gigs in East Germany, another who was a teenager during the Prague Spring, the son of famed U-2 pilot Francis Gary Powers, and even a member of the Trabant Owners Club
https://coldwarconversations.wordpress.com

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link

wow that sounds dope

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link

just listening to The Korean War in Britain, it's good stuff.

calzino, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link

I skipped that one + went to the SR71 ep, better!

calzino, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 21:03 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

The History of the World podcast is about as unpretentious as its stated aim is grandiose. I know next-to-nothing about the creator but he's very good at synthesizing a lot of information and making it both palatable and conversational. And he really is trying to tackle all of human history and pre-history (it takes him two dozen episodes to start making his way out of the Neolithic).

Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 13:04 (four years ago) link

(I'm sampling other ancient history podcasts atm and haven't been bowled over otherwise. The History of Ancient Greece seems all right but the dude's voice/accent/inflection/whatever is a seeeeeeeerious hurdle and I don't know how much longer I can keep jumping.)

Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link

sounds great tbh, thks

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I've subscribed as well.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link

sounds cool. I've checked some shows with a similar idea but they usually start with Sumeria

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 14:08 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

So what’s the hivemind take in Dan Carlin? I started his WWI series today and I really enjoyed it and found several points illuminating, but I’ve also always been a terrible student of history who finds even a lot of layperson works too dry, so maybe I’m just falling for the wow effects of appealing narratives that aren’t totally accurate.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link

I've never read anyone take him down as bad history but I hate his performance style so much I've never made it through an episode myself.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link

The criticism I've heard of Dan Carlin is that he represents old-school great man theory history, not sure how fair this is, but he's certainly a big fan of Churchill.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link

it is like listening to a dumb as fuck WWF commentator was my impression. Although since then a friend of mine from a public school background and much better educated than me said it is good stuff! I'm not convinced tbh.

calzino, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link

i actually like the bombast, the "NPR" podcast style just drives me up a wall

haven't heard one of his podcasts in ages, but the stuff i was listening to was pretty decent history-wise. i don't entirely trust him politically, but for "history as disaster porn" (which tends to be the approach he takes) it's good!

Agnes Motörhead (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link

There are four basic male voices I hear on US podcasts

* Old-timey transatlantic accent radio host voice
* Bombastic hype man voice
* Stand up comic chillin' with his bros voice
* An imitation of Ira Glass

TBH I find all of these weird and grating to different degrees, only the third one seems at all natural, but it has a very high correlation with pricks with nothing interesting to say. Ultimately the last one is the mark of a decent-ish show.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

Yeah I was into the style even though I guffawed at a couple of the most OTT moments. I basically need someone shouting in my face like a carnival barker to not drift off while learning history, it's a sad truth about myself I've come to accept.

I've been trying to do the History of Rome podcast too -- the content is digestible enough but the sound quality and vocals on the early eps are just painfully bad and it makes it especially hard to listen in the car, where I do most of my podcast listening.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

It can be a gateway. I got interested in Roman history after his Death of the Republic series. He’s pretty aware that his mode of history is out of style academically.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

The guy who does the Martyrmade podcast seems like a right wing creep on Twitter, but his series of the founding of Israel and Jonestown are pretty great

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

Haven't gotten around to History of Rome yet but his later Revolutions podcast is great and suggests he's since ironed out whatever earlier kinks he'd experienced.

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

The first 50 episodes of HoR are kinda rough

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link

It sounds like a guy muttering voice memos into his iPhone in a bathroom

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

British History Podcast guy went back and re-recorded his first 50 or so out of sheer embarrassment. I re-did my first one because I found some new recordings, not doing any others barring some amazing discoveries, not sure what I make is even a podcast as most people understand it anyway.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

Revolutions is finally at the Russian Revolution. They are at episode 23, and introduced Lenin last episode. It's kinda hilarious.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

The criticism I've heard of Dan Carlin is that he represents old-school great man theory history, not sure how fair this is, but he's certainly a big fan of Churchill.

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, November 26, 2019 9:24 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

First 1/3 of the first part of the WWI ep was certainly not very materialist in its analysis, although I wouldn't exactly say it was "great man theory" either -- if anything he seems enamored with the idea of random chance setting massive forces in motion (which, tbf, is kind of a standard way to read the start of WWI).

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I didn't find it to be true on the whole, that's the one I've listened to as well, but would like the judgement of an actual historian

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link

im not a historian but my undergrad degree was in history and dan carlin isn't really intellectually rigorous enough for me

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link

i also just don't like his voice

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link

his padded out jibber jabbering is that lacking in content you could literally listen to half an hour without actually learning anything on a subject.

calzino, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

Mike Duncan hits the right middle ground of tone for me - conversational, direct but not boring.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

I would bet those early eps were him just talking into whatever microphone was built into his laptop, though, it's true.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

The Age of Napoleon guy is good too, and sticks to a similar length/pace

Simon H., Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

age of napoleon is very good

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link

Wouldn't some of you lot get so much more from listening to classic audio books. Idk like C V Wedgwood.'s 30 years war. Barbara can't remember her surname' s magisterial Guns of August. I've tried to listen to him again earlier and he seems even more pointless than the first time I tried.

calzino, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

I'm against audiobooks for dumb reasons. i only listen to podcasts while cooking or walking alone

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

I like the 30-minute chunk format, I find it really digestible and I feel like I actually retain some of the info

Simon H., Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

(another reason I never got into Dan Carlin, aside from his obnoxious voice and aesthetic)

Simon H., Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

Audiobook history sounds good, but where to get these from? Audible is £8 per book, this is too much to justify when I will listen to it once only and the same book is usually just a couple of quid to actually buy.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

Podcasts are written a very different way, I think. The conversational tone of the best podcasts is very appealing. Audiobooks take up all my concentration when I'm listening, I can't bike if I listen to an audiobook for instance. So I just read books instead. While I listen to music.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

Yeah, podcasts and books are apples and oranges. The presentation of a podcast, if successful, is much more geared toward aural reception. I can't imagine trying to listen to someone narrate most of the history books I read.

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

I zone out on audiobooks and miss multiple 'pages,' for some reason that doesn't happen with podcasts.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

Plus some of these things (Mike Duncan joints, History of England) are pulling from such a wide range of sources that they are, from a certain perspective, almost more useful than reading a single book. That said, my engagement with them is mostly as a supplement to stuff I'm actually reading.

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link


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