SB 51: the California politics thread

he stepped forward to support same-sex marriage at a time when most of the rest of the country was charging in the other direction when it was most politically advantageous to him personally, handed the GOP a wedge-issue that helped get Dubya re-elected, resulted in the passage of Prop 8 in California actually *banning* gay marriage, and did not actually result in any valid gay marriages

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that whole charade was nauseating, grandstanding at his worst. He knew he didn't have a legal leg to stand on and did it for the purposes of benefiting no one but himself.

xp - even when in practice it was preaching to the choir and a high profile distraction from his pro-development/pro-corporate policies?

^^^

he has a history of this grandstanding, like when he wanted to improve the health of poor & working class San Franciscans by banning cigarette sales from chain stores with pharmacies -- that pretty much affected nothing except the ability to buy fairly low-priced cigarettes at Walgreen's stores. ... as opposed to walking a block or less to a liquor store and buying cigarettes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55cG7EytB7M

omg I pulled up this video to show how fuckin obnoxious he was at the time and the closed captioning is wild

**APPLAUSE BY HOMOSEXUALS**

xp the conversation it started was a huge push forward for gay rights

i don't think he literally tried to feed a cat to an ATM tho

the conversation it started was a huge push forward for gay rights

he didn't start it - Alaska and Arizona already had gay marriage rulings on the books - he just made the splashiest (and emptiest) show about it. which is his modus operandi.

xp Dan -- I'm not saying he's evil incarnate, just that it was a self-serving move. And it is often super useful to be reminded that in the central SF Bay Area, one lives in kinda a political bubble and that there is certain hair-splitting we do here, some more-progressive-than-thou type stuff, that looks ridiculous to most other Americans

Oh yeah, and Oakland has a mayoral election ...

Alaska and Arizona, come on. This *was* a big push forward.

Bush had already given his SOTU pressing for a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. Massachusetts was on track to start allowing marriages in May of that year. A backlash was going to happen in 2004. And Prop 8 was a direct response to the California Supreme Court recognizing marriage rights in 2008

agree that it was a partly self-serving move, but it was also a very good thing

yeah, on paper he has done all the right things, but you read into the details of his life and he is a total slimeball

thing is, how else would you vote if not on what he has done and the positives more or less outweigh the negatives

i feel like this single payer healthcare program was hyped a lot in california, but like it's crazy when you do the math

i'm not against it though

on paper he has done all the right things

not when he was mayor! he did a lot of not-right things

as mayor his sponsorship of Prop N (Care not Cash) was very controversial

yeah, i know what you mean

i guess i should say given the options

I agree that policy-wise I'm compelled to vote for him, more or less. At the same time, I absolutely hate watching him talk and prior to our current scandal-goalpost-moving POS chief exec I would have assumed Newsom was a lock for doing something scandalously unethical/illegal that would tank his career. I guess we're going to find out soon enough.

Well when the alternative is John Cox...

i was listening to an interview with scott weiner and he mentioned that brown had vetoed the 4am last call thing but he would bring it back next year and didn't expect any problems with newsom on that issue. there was then a weird moment where the interviewer and weiner acknowledged that yes, newsom is a known partier.

a friend of mine/former journalist wrote a semi-autobiographical novel that briefly features an obvious Newsom character riding around in a limo drinking champagne, doing blow and engaging in bisexual hijinks

"That, in turn, should be the opening line of your novel.

god damn i need a voter guide who tf are all these yahoo local judges speaking in code

i forget, are you in LA?

sandy eggo

city of

ah i cannot help you.

anyone reading this in LA:

superior court #4: sauceda on the grounds that the other guy is endorsed by the police unions.

#16: hunter. michel's husband is an NRA lawyer and her son is called Colt and her dog is called Heston. also michel is endorsed by the LAT which in court elections seems to indicate a "nice little beach community" type.

#60: hancock. ex public defender (rather than prosecutor) and woman.

no news here for anyone local, but prop c goes national

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/19/technology/san-francisco-taxes-homeless.html

i didn't know this though:

In 2012, San Francisco also adjusted its tax code by switching from a payroll tax to a gross receipts tax, a change that favored the tech industry, which spends extravagantly to recruit top engineers.

superior court #4: sauceda on the grounds that the other guy is endorsed by the police unions

i definitely voted against the guy that said "proud to be law enforcement's choice"

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-road-map-thurmond-tuck-schools-charters-unions-20181021-story.html

I am going to ask an extremely ignorant question: what is the billionaire obsession with charter schools? an untapped market?

i think it's the standard "free enterprise" thing that appeals to business people, like public schools are hamstrung by all these government regulations, what if we could "disrupt" that and do more or less what we want but still get the same government funding that the public schools do?

yeah it's total bullshit

i endorse these endorsements

https://lawebsitedotnet.wordpress.com/

rich people also send their kids to private schools so they dgaf about using charters as a lab for their dumb theories. they're not affected.

Weird new republican ad buy

A plane crashed onto the 101 Freeway in Agoura Hills on Tuesday afternoon, authorities said. https://t.co/L09NSqhq3k pic.twitter.com/dXHLoY4aKB

— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) October 23, 2018

would sign a prop that seized all assets of a rich warplane flying asshole that fucks up everybody's commute

Opposition to PROP 10

Officials

Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom (D), 2018 gubernatorial candidate[47]
John Cox (R), 2018 gubernatorial candidate[47]

Parties

California Republican Party[48]

When did Gavin Newsom disappoint you first?

I betcha nobody here remembers Brittanie Mountz.

lol who could forget

I actually remember Newsom's Gay Marriage Gambit as a pretty savvy move to consolidate the city behind him after a divisive election (and I definitely didn't vote for him in that one).

But he will not be as competent as Brown, that's for sure. Hopefully it will be enough.

I betcha nobody here remembers Brittanie Mountz.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:04 PM (yesterday)

oh I remember! she had the best name, the jokes wrote themselves

i also endorse these endorsements:

https://tjr.xxx/content/two-evils-voting-guide-nov-2018.pdf?1540269420

Surprising revelation from @GavinNewsom, former 2-term Mayor of SF: he hasn’t read #PropC and has no opinion on it. Tax tech to help homeless? No view. Not even in the abstract. “I haven’t read it.” pic.twitter.com/0RpAbozJFA

— Doug Sovern (@SovernNation) October 30, 2018

prop 10 seems like it's going to lose:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-may-2018-proposition-10-s-support-craters-in-new-1540406834-htmlstory.html

possibly thanks to this kind of nonsense (the same people will tell you that prop 10 will result in fewer houses being built. pick a side people!)

silver linings though:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-may-2018-prop-6-leaders-threaten-recall-campaign-1540838655-htmlstory.html

missing link there sorry

Why’s @AptAssocGLA gonna go ahead and make this old lady lie like that pic.twitter.com/GiSMsSydF8

— Scott Frazier (@safrazie) October 28, 2018

damn dude, she looks like she's only in her mid-50s??

that Doug Sovern tweet is bullshit. Newsom has already weighed in on Prop C

(he thinks Prop C could make the problem worse. don't agree)

Prop C is a good thing!, really hope it passes

Agree completely re Prop C

Prop 10 is doomed, but I may vote for it anyway.

submitted without comment

http://www.peaceandfreedom.org/home/images/VoterGuides/2018-November-Workers-Voter-Guide.pdf

except that the candidates they are endorsing look really young

Wealthy Berkeley residents want to live in a college town, but they don't want any college students there.

yeah those people are shitheads. also I don't know that they really want to live in a college town. they maybe think they do, but they don't.

anywhere can be a college town if you just act like you’re in college, duh look at guerneville

spring break twelve months of the year

their tuition is $3500 and tuition plus dorm lodging is $4100

what???? it doesn't say tuition is $3500 unless I missed something. tuition at UC is quite a bit higher than that even for in-state.

worth noting that one of the major NIMBY assholes in Berkeley is Robert Reich.

it was in the reddit thread?? idk all my kids get free rides basically

In state tuition to berkeley is 14k/yr. The poster said their sponsor paid the tuition. I'm not sure who their sponsor is and why they didn't also agree to pay for housing, that doesn't seem like a very good sponsor to me.

I think you saw this: "The cost for a full UC meal plan is $3,535. Is that what your sponsor is paying? The cost for one semester room and board in the coops is $4,131"

ohhh thx. yes i misread that

BTW, calling out NIMBYs should not absolve the UC from decades of dereliction when it comes to building student housing. It's not just Berkeley:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-03-14/fixing-californias-student-housing-crisis-faces-roadblocks

Why hasn’t UC Berkeley built more student housing? (good historical background - not just Berkeley, but the UC in general)

Of course no one should have to live like this, regardless of GPA or whatever.

And if the specifics of the reddit thread are bothering you then read the thing I linked about UCLA students living in their cars.

My point is not that these people _in particular_ should not be homeless. It’s that things have gotten so fucked up that some of the otherwise most privileged people in the richest state in the country are living in cars and storage units.

santa cruz is even worse, from what I understand.

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, August 17, 2023 9:54 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

https://darrellowens.substack.com/p/santa-cruz-is-a-housing-nightmare

And https://darrellowens.substack.com/p/traumatized-by-santa-cruzs-housing

yeah that's where I first read about it (followed him on twitter, when I was still on twitter)

i think santa cruz is only "worse" in the sense that people go there not expecting to commute from like Salinas or Hollister ... whereas people I know who went to UCSD and UCLA and even Berkeley were more prepared to commute.

I wondered whatever happened to that proposed Dormzilla project at UCSB, and thankfully it's dead.
https://therealdeal.com/la/2023/08/08/ucsb-wants-to-replace-charlie-mungers-dorm-design/

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/national-international/federal-judge-california-law-gun-magazines/3230467/

Courtesy of this prize.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Benitez

yeah that guy is a POS

Can't wait for more of this genius at work -- Steve Garvey confirms he's running for Senate and says things like this:

He was less anxious to touch base with what may be one of his political liabilities: his personal life. His Mr. Clean image took a hit shortly after he left baseball, when news broke that he fathered two children with different women before marrying a third, his current wife, Candace.

“You know, Joe, life is a journey,” Garvey told me. “We all go through chapters in our lives. That was back in a transitional period. I don’t talk about my family or history. People will judge me as to who I am in 2024. I pray for my children and my family every day.”

"Release the tapes!"

How many mispredictions can you spot? https://t.co/IaH8k4Cnjk pic.twitter.com/N7q4TlTmlK

— Common Ground California (@CACommonGround) February 14, 2024