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I'm with sarahell on the mixed feelings about Newsom. He is a guy who I *really* don't like or trust, even when a lot of his policy prescriptions and positions line up with mine. He's just a fucking slimeball that wants to be president really badly. Dunno if I will bother voting for him, he's almost certain to be the winner anyway.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:35 (eleven months ago) link

i remember being a local blogger about 10 or so years ago and my fave thing was comparing him to Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:37 (eleven months ago) link

I think he is also a big fan of Huey Lewis & the News iirc

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:38 (eleven months ago) link

I can't hate him, he stepped forward to support same-sex marriage at a time when most of the rest of the country was charging in the other direction

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:44 (eleven months ago) link

comparing him to Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman

yeah you weren't alone in this the similarity is just too eerie

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:54 (eleven months ago) link

he stepped forward to support same-sex marriage at a time when most of the rest of the country was charging in the other direction when it was most politically advantageous to him personally, handed the GOP a wedge-issue that helped get Dubya re-elected, resulted in the passage of Prop 8 in California actually *banning* gay marriage, and did not actually result in any valid gay marriages

fixed

that whole charade was nauseating, grandstanding at his worst. He knew he didn't have a legal leg to stand on and did it for the purposes of benefiting no one but himself.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:55 (eleven months ago) link

xp - even when in practice it was preaching to the choir and a high profile distraction from his pro-development/pro-corporate policies?

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:56 (eleven months ago) link

^^^

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (eleven months ago) link

he has a history of this grandstanding, like when he wanted to improve the health of poor & working class San Franciscans by banning cigarette sales from chain stores with pharmacies -- that pretty much affected nothing except the ability to buy fairly low-priced cigarettes at Walgreen's stores. ... as opposed to walking a block or less to a liquor store and buying cigarettes

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (eleven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55cG7EytB7M

omg I pulled up this video to show how fuckin obnoxious he was at the time and the closed captioning is wild

**APPLAUSE BY HOMOSEXUALS**

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:58 (eleven months ago) link

xp the conversation it started was a huge push forward for gay rights

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:59 (eleven months ago) link

i don't think he literally tried to feed a cat to an ATM tho

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:00 (eleven months ago) link

the conversation it started was a huge push forward for gay rights

he didn't start it - Alaska and Arizona already had gay marriage rulings on the books - he just made the splashiest (and emptiest) show about it. which is his modus operandi.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:03 (eleven months ago) link

xp Dan -- I'm not saying he's evil incarnate, just that it was a self-serving move. And it is often super useful to be reminded that in the central SF Bay Area, one lives in kinda a political bubble and that there is certain hair-splitting we do here, some more-progressive-than-thou type stuff, that looks ridiculous to most other Americans

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:04 (eleven months ago) link

Oh yeah, and Oakland has a mayoral election ...

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:05 (eleven months ago) link

Alaska and Arizona, come on. This *was* a big push forward.

Bush had already given his SOTU pressing for a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. Massachusetts was on track to start allowing marriages in May of that year. A backlash was going to happen in 2004. And Prop 8 was a direct response to the California Supreme Court recognizing marriage rights in 2008

agree that it was a partly self-serving move, but it was also a very good thing

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:11 (eleven months ago) link

yeah, on paper he has done all the right things, but you read into the details of his life and he is a total slimeball

thing is, how else would you vote if not on what he has done and the positives more or less outweigh the negatives

i feel like this single payer healthcare program was hyped a lot in california, but like it's crazy when you do the math

i'm not against it though

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:36 (eleven months ago) link

on paper he has done all the right things

not when he was mayor! he did a lot of not-right things

sarahell, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:37 (eleven months ago) link

as mayor his sponsorship of Prop N (Care not Cash) was very controversial

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:46 (eleven months ago) link

yeah, i know what you mean

i guess i should say given the options

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:48 (eleven months ago) link

I agree that policy-wise I'm compelled to vote for him, more or less. At the same time, I absolutely hate watching him talk and prior to our current scandal-goalpost-moving POS chief exec I would have assumed Newsom was a lock for doing something scandalously unethical/illegal that would tank his career. I guess we're going to find out soon enough.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:51 (eleven months ago) link

Well when the alternative is John Cox...

Catherine Power (Leee), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:58 (eleven months ago) link

i was listening to an interview with scott weiner and he mentioned that brown had vetoed the 4am last call thing but he would bring it back next year and didn't expect any problems with newsom on that issue. there was then a weird moment where the interviewer and weiner acknowledged that yes, newsom is a known partier.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:17 (eleven months ago) link

a friend of mine/former journalist wrote a semi-autobiographical novel that briefly features an obvious Newsom character riding around in a limo drinking champagne, doing blow and engaging in bisexual hijinks

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:23 (eleven months ago) link

"That, in turn, should be the opening line of your novel.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:39 (eleven months ago) link

god damn i need a voter guide who tf are all these yahoo local judges speaking in code

the late great, Thursday, 18 October 2018 03:59 (eleven months ago) link

i forget, are you in LA?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 18 October 2018 04:20 (eleven months ago) link

sandy eggo

the late great, Thursday, 18 October 2018 04:43 (eleven months ago) link

city of

the late great, Thursday, 18 October 2018 04:43 (eleven months ago) link

ah i cannot help you.

anyone reading this in LA:

superior court #4: sauceda on the grounds that the other guy is endorsed by the police unions.

#16: hunter. michel's husband is an NRA lawyer and her son is called Colt and her dog is called Heston. also michel is endorsed by the LAT which in court elections seems to indicate a "nice little beach community" type.

#60: hancock. ex public defender (rather than prosecutor) and woman.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 18 October 2018 05:16 (eleven months ago) link

no news here for anyone local, but prop c goes national

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/19/technology/san-francisco-taxes-homeless.html

i didn't know this though:

In 2012, San Francisco also adjusted its tax code by switching from a payroll tax to a gross receipts tax, a change that favored the tech industry, which spends extravagantly to recruit top engineers.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 20 October 2018 17:17 (ten months ago) link

superior court #4: sauceda on the grounds that the other guy is endorsed by the police unions

i definitely voted against the guy that said "proud to be law enforcement's choice"

the late great, Saturday, 20 October 2018 17:35 (ten months ago) link

I am going to ask an extremely ignorant question: what is the billionaire obsession with charter schools? an untapped market?

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 22 October 2018 06:01 (ten months ago) link

i think it's the standard "free enterprise" thing that appeals to business people, like public schools are hamstrung by all these government regulations, what if we could "disrupt" that and do more or less what we want but still get the same government funding that the public schools do?

sarahell, Monday, 22 October 2018 14:20 (ten months ago) link

yeah it's total bullshit

Οὖτις, Monday, 22 October 2018 15:26 (ten months ago) link

i endorse these endorsements

https://lawebsitedotnet.wordpress.com/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 22 October 2018 18:37 (ten months ago) link

rich people also send their kids to private schools so they dgaf about using charters as a lab for their dumb theories. they're not affected.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 22 October 2018 18:56 (ten months ago) link

Weird new republican ad buy

A plane crashed onto the 101 Freeway in Agoura Hills on Tuesday afternoon, authorities said. https://t.co/L09NSqhq3k pic.twitter.com/dXHLoY4aKB

— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) October 23, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 23:31 (ten months ago) link

would sign a prop that seized all assets of a rich warplane flying asshole that fucks up everybody's commute

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 23:39 (ten months ago) link

Opposition to PROP 10

Officials

Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom (D), 2018 gubernatorial candidate[47]
John Cox (R), 2018 gubernatorial candidate[47]

Parties

California Republican Party[48]

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 01:03 (ten months ago) link

When did Gavin Newsom disappoint you first?

I betcha nobody here remembers Brittanie Mountz.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 01:04 (ten months ago) link

lol who could forget

the late great, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 01:05 (ten months ago) link

I actually remember Newsom's Gay Marriage Gambit as a pretty savvy move to consolidate the city behind him after a divisive election (and I definitely didn't vote for him in that one).

But he will not be as competent as Brown, that's for sure. Hopefully it will be enough.

fajita seas, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 03:00 (ten months ago) link

I betcha nobody here remembers Brittanie Mountz.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:04 PM (yesterday)

oh I remember! she had the best name, the jokes wrote themselves

sarahell, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:15 (ten months ago) link

i also endorse these endorsements:

https://tjr.xxx/content/two-evils-voting-guide-nov-2018.pdf?1540269420

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 00:35 (ten months ago) link

Surprising revelation from @GavinNewsom, former 2-term Mayor of SF: he hasn’t read #PropC and has no opinion on it. Tax tech to help homeless? No view. Not even in the abstract. “I haven’t read it.” pic.twitter.com/0RpAbozJFA

— Doug Sovern (@SovernNation) October 30, 2018

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 00:37 (ten months ago) link

prop 10 seems like it's going to lose:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-may-2018-proposition-10-s-support-craters-in-new-1540406834-htmlstory.html

possibly thanks to this kind of nonsense (the same people will tell you that prop 10 will result in fewer houses being built. pick a side people!)

silver linings though:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-may-2018-prop-6-leaders-threaten-recall-campaign-1540838655-htmlstory.html

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 00:41 (ten months ago) link

missing link there sorry

Why’s @AptAssocGLA gonna go ahead and make this old lady lie like that pic.twitter.com/GiSMsSydF8

— Scott Frazier (@safrazie) October 28, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 00:41 (ten months ago) link

damn dude, she looks like she's only in her mid-50s??

sarahell, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 01:21 (ten months ago) link

(at least in terms of congressional reps)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:32 (one month ago) link

yup. OC is done for a while. the current top of the democratic hit list in SC is the *last* republican on the LA county council.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:38 (one month ago) link

(and then duncan hunter in SD if he doesn't go to jail first)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:41 (one month ago) link

that trial is such an entertaining shitshow

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:49 (one month ago) link

Never forget this chud:

In December 2018, a month after losing his bid for reelection, Rohrabacher announced that he would be moving to Maine to, among other things, write film scripts.[187] In May 2019 he announced his appointment to the advisory board of BudTrader.com, a company that provides cannabis-related advertising services.[188]

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 21:02 (one month ago) link

Maine's film industry obviously much more vital than California's

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 21:04 (one month ago) link

the current top of the democratic hit list in SC is the *last* republican on the LA county council.

*city

this election is today btw. https://www.loraineforla.com/ is running against the chief of staff of the previous guy (a republican), who retired to become a sports lobbyist ($$$$ olympics $$$$). lundquist is probably going to get creamed (turnout will be terrible), but she'll be back for the same seat in 2020.

also the nominally democrat councilmember for silver lake/los feliz/etc. is being primaried from the left, which is great. that primary is next spring iirc.

I'm running for LA City Council in District 4. Here's why.https://t.co/Q9lkhI3koN pic.twitter.com/FHb9Wz3xA0

— Nithya Raman (@nithyavraman) August 7, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:45 (one month ago) link

Closer than I thought it would be!

https://www.lavote.net/election-results

Still postal votes to count but probably too big a less to overcome

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:59 (one month ago) link

RIP

Loraine Lundquist says she is conceding the #CD12 race after learning that only 3,750 ballots are estimated to be outstanding. "Now that we know how many ballots are left to count, it seems very unlikely that there would be any change to the results," she said.

— Emily Alpert Reyes (@AlpertReyes) August 14, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:42 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

New: Uber & Lyft commit $60 million to fund a state-wide ballot initiative to keep treating their workers as contractors. This announcement comes a day after execs from both cos met w/ Gov. Newsom in part to discuss what they’re proposing as an alternative https://t.co/7AHIJpl3bb

— Johana Bhuiyan (@JMBooyah) August 29, 2019

Should say if there's not a deal this or *next session*. But this is crucial context from @dillonliam. Using a ballot initiative as leverage is increasingly common. Tony West told us he didn't expect any ballot measure to be as "progressive" as what they're offering now. pic.twitter.com/ETtpXUR56C

— Johana Bhuiyan (@JMBooyah) August 29, 2019

very cool way of making laws folks

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 29 August 2019 23:38 (three weeks ago) link

statewide rent control maybe coming despite pretty hard ballot measure failure last year

THREAD: Late Friday, Gov. @GavinNewsom announced a deal with legislative leadership to cap annual rent hikes in California for a decade at 5% + inflation alongside anti-eviction protections. This is a big deal, but it’s far from assured it will pass https://t.co/x8TIp1GqmZ (1/10)

— Liam Dillon (@dillonliam) September 3, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 16:35 (two weeks ago) link

this is statewide rent control for non-vacant units, right? interesting.

akm, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:00 (two weeks ago) link

yes but there are exclusions based on the building age and a sunset clause. it's still fairly aggressive.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:19 (two weeks ago) link

Uber & Lyft commit $60 million to fund a state-wide ballot initiative

Since they probably haven't spent even 2% of that amount pursuing that initiative so far, they could as easily have said $300 million as $60 million and presumably frightened lawmakers into submission even more effectively.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:29 (two weeks ago) link

they should just suck it up and pay the payroll taxes and workers comp insurance like normal employers ... also they are seriously responsible for making traffic suck in the Bay Area (idk about LA).

sarahell, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:11 (two weeks ago) link

^^^

they have made driving in SF so much worse

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:14 (two weeks ago) link

it's like all roads and lanes on city streets are subdivided into "thru traffic" and "double parked uber/lyft drivers"

sarahell, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:19 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2019-09-03/hiltzik-uber-lyft-90-million-to-save-employment-costs

Uber says its goal is to place “drivers’ unique needs first and foremost, and provide leadership with a new model for workers.” Is this plausible?

Just consider that the top named officer of the campaign entity to which Uber and Lyft have given their $60 million in funding, Californians for Innovation and Opportunity, is Thomas W. Hiltachk. He’s the go-to lawyer for Republican and conservative initiative campaigns, including Proposition 32 of 2012, which was a thinly-disguised attack on unions and their members. Here’s a rule of thumb: If Hiltachk is on your team, you may not have workers’ best interests at heart.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:21 (two weeks ago) link

it's like all roads and lanes on city streets are subdivided into "thru traffic" and "double parked uber/lyft drivers"

not only that, they've literally put *more* cars on the streets. Instead of yr usual drivers + taxi fleets, you have people bringing their cars in from out of town to make $$$

https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Uber-Lyft-cars-have-heavy-impact-on-SF-streets-11214835.php

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:25 (two weeks ago) link

just take the fucking bus ya idjits

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:25 (two weeks ago) link

I have some mixed feelings about the Dynamex decision and it being applied super strictly, though the fact that these companies have managed to not run afoul of the EDD regulations about employee vs. contractor is ridiculous to me. Also, another ridiculous thing is the fact that these companies claim to be innovative but really, outside of the technology, their model feels very 19th Century to me -- this is off the cuff, tho, I want to research it further -- in terms of treatment of travelling salespeople, which predated the tax code, and thus have certain special rules.

sarahell, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:33 (two weeks ago) link

not only that, they've literally put *more* cars on the streets. Instead of yr usual drivers + taxi fleets, you have people bringing their cars in from out of town to make $$$

Totally true -- it's not just SF, but Oakland, too ...

sarahell, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:35 (two weeks ago) link

Way to go California !

Today we made HISTORY!!!
Just now, the CA legislature passed the Tenant Protection Act of 2019 and is on its way to @GavinNewsom desk to be signed! #AB1482 expands protections to 7 million tenants, covering more renters than any single tenant protection bill in recent US history! pic.twitter.com/tgzyUMXnsJ

— ACCE (@CalOrganize) September 11, 2019

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 12 September 2019 01:43 (one week ago) link

legislature has banned private prisons and ICE facilities in CA. Newsom expected to sign bill.

Οὖτις, Friday, 13 September 2019 14:57 (six days ago) link

Also rent cap

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 13 September 2019 15:03 (six days ago) link

Jfc

1/2 A few minutes ago, the anti-vaxxer stalkers - who’ve engaged in a harassment campaign all week - dropped a red substance onto the Senate floor from the elevated public gallery, dousing several of my colleagues. The person who committed this assault screamed it was baby blood.

— Scott Wiener (@Scott_Wiener) September 14, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 14 September 2019 01:12 (five days ago) link

when you realize the protestor was referring to 'baby rats' it kinds of changes the message

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 14 September 2019 02:50 (five days ago) link


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