US Politics, October 2018: next week will be even longer

I just don't get people who spend years and years mad at what the US and the Saudis are doing, and then when other people get mad as well go 'fuck you, you're mad for the wrong reason!'. Ride the wave, push for sanctions. No kid in Yemen are going to complain that the war ended because of Khashoggi rather than because his own brother died.

I guess you didn't get it when Richard Pryor said in his white voice about drugs reaching the suburbs, "My God, it's an epidemic!"

_You're Mad for teh WRONG Reason!: A Guide to Navigating USA in the Age of Social Media_

This morning I appeared on @HillTVLive and the Republican pundit I was paired with touted the virtues of toxic masculinity, attacking @BetoORourke as a beta male. @KrystalBall and I called him out because silence in the face of such complete B.S. is not an option. #TXsen pic.twitter.com/ebemLX0fQR

— Jennifer Holdsworth (@HoldsworthJen) October 17, 2018

love how she calls this dude out

that is ace

Notice how he wiggles on the hook. They can't say "He's a fag" or "a San Francisco liberal" anymore.

Waiting impatiently for science to figure out a way to spontaneously render infertile every dude who refers to himself as an alpha male. Dream big, scientists, you can do this.

love dude trying to backpedal to calling Beto "millenial." Beto's 46, a whopping one year younger than Cruz.

That republican pundit/Trump data dude is an author of short stories:

http://www.shorterstoriesbymatt.com/

yeah but see he's appealing to millennials, whereas cruz is not appealing in any capacity

mudfish need to mate don't they?

“He is our guest”. Yes, ladies, be polite to the nice fascists who have come on to use our platform

I guess you didn't get it when Richard Pryor said in his white voice about drugs reaching the suburbs, "My God, it's an epidemic!"

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), 17. oktober 2018 18:20 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Two situations. Richard Pryor being mad at white people for not caring about black people. And you being mad at everyone for not caring about Yemeni people. Do you see the difference?

Jesus, the dude in that video is about as pathetic and sad as it gets.

this weird online taxonomy of "alpha" and "beta" might be some of the dumbest bullshit i've ever seen... that said, i gotta wonder if that little chimp in the clip above holds himself out as a reeeeal "apha" male, because bruh

apparently "npc" is the new "beta lib"

Non player character?

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I thought it had been widely exoposed taht teh guy who initially came up with Alpha/beta males spent a lot of his later career trying to kill the idea. Found something out about the wolves he'd observed being very closely related which had more to do with their behaviour than what he hypothesised.
I just know i have seen the theory behind it explored several times over the last year on various things and explained why it shouldn't be believed in.

But could see the people it most appealed to wanting to fall into line with it anyway.
Alpha male just means a-hole in plain terms ddoesn't it, though supposedly with charisma. & I tend to find those who are trying to live up to it don't strike me as the most charismatic anyway. Just leaves me wondering why people put up with it and don't find teh whole thing childish for the most part.

as Alfred said, it's that same old homophobia very thinly disguised with (pseudo)science

apparently "npc" is the new "beta lib"

― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:05 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is hilarious and revealing in ways they'd probably wish that it wasn't. Yes, please, establish your dominance over me via nerdspeak. Quaking rn.

while you were partying, they were Studying the Blade

dude is using "beta" and "newfriend", both 4ch@n slang

Alpha male just means a-hole in plain terms ddoesn't it, though supposedly with charisma. & I tend to find those who are trying to live up to it don't strike me as the most charismatic anyway. Just leaves me wondering why people put up with it and don't find teh whole thing childish for the most part.

^^ my buddy definitely fits the alpha male profile, but he has lots of money - so people put up with it.

the worst aspect of the whole alpha/beta mindset is that it worships dominance and diminishes the role of kindness to invisibility, whereas in a correct scale of values these positions should be reversed.

"NPC" maybe even more revealing than intended because it betrays the dehumanizing hierarchy that these assholes all really crave: some people have agency and are at the center of the bildungsroman or the hegelian world-historical narrative, some don't, and aren't. unsurprisingly this is also how white supremacy conceive of nonwhites and how patriarchy conceives of women.

a bunch of orcs to be killed and looted, basically

Orcs are technically npc’s but more accurately just “enemies”. npc’s are more like the characters in town who say the same things over and over again because they’re not important enough for someone to write a dialogue tree.

NPC
https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fenacademic.com%2Fpictures%2Fenwiki%2F82%2FRobertASilvermanDarcyNader.jpg&f=1

whatever happened to 'red shirts'

i just had to look up this npc thing. This is really fucking stupid; I totally believe the GOP is using it. So fetch.

I thought of fetch when Fox News was pushing "demoncrats". Just too ridiculous to gain any traction. And now that's sticking, too.

They were only NPCs will be the justification for a future school shooter.

ryan zinke has fired the department of the interior's acting inspector general

This should probably be on another thread but this idea that some people see other humans as extras without value in some people’s tiny bubble of a world view is terrifying, disgusting and says a lot about why we are so totally fucked.

Gas prices definitely the sleeper issue for 2020 but the rest of that post ... I don’t know

sorry that was for another thread.

but this is for this one. good people

I’m in Coral Gables working with @martindvassolo. @NancyPelosi and @RepBarbaraLee were scheduled to campaign for @DonnaShalala and @DebbieforFL here today. About 25 protesters are standing outside, holding signs supporting Republicans and accusing Democrats of being communists. pic.twitter.com/4aStMkFwnx

— Jimena Tavel (@taveljimena) October 17, 2018

The crowd has grown. They’re striking the door to the building where the event will take place. They’re also screaming “commie” and calling the Democrats “witches.” pic.twitter.com/08ZafRtxwp

— Jimena Tavel (@taveljimena) October 17, 2018

also 🚨

Don Jr., Eric and Ivanka have all unfollowed Kanye West in the past few hours https://t.co/TPmsp7QN66

— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) October 17, 2018

xpost, Certain people have always seen "others" as extras without any value. It only gets shocking sometimes when people find it so easy to say it aloud.

“Witches”? That word seems to have a pretty elastic definition for Trump followers. At least the “rigged witch hunt” has a high chance of success.

impressive staying power for 'commie' as an epithet. someone needs to bring back 'copperhead' or 'hessian' imo

My dad called me a commie once. It was pretty hilarious. (and confusing)

bring back “pinko”

We've already brought back the "know-nothing" movement, but we forgot to bring back its name.

it was one of the many things we didn't know

This should probably be on another thread but this idea that some people see other humans as extras without value in some people’s tiny bubble of a world view is terrifying, disgusting and says a lot about why we are so totally fucked.

― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, October 17, 2018 2:58 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I would modify this myself and say that the extent to which we allow this become an acceptable means of discourse is the extent to which we're totally fucked. Sociopathy was always a thing, the extent to which its expression was tolerated or validated maybe not so much.

Meh. Debasing yr. political opposition is as old as the hills. Hoi Polloi. Rabble. Mob. Lumpenproletariat. Ragtail and bob. Riffraff. Trash. Scum of the Earth. Redshirts. Unwashed masses. Them.

i think the gleeful cruelty of current discourse is really something else on another level though, and the ease w/which you'll find people who will cheer on your cruelty.

otm, the cruelty is the point as per that Atlantic article

fwiw, my point in bringing up hegel and making reference to patriarchy and racial supremacy theory was in part to suggest that there is nothing remotely new about people dehumanizing other people and refusing to imagine them as independent beings with agency over their own lives or politics. it was expressed, tolerated, and validated as essentially the baseline assumptions undergirding imperialism among many other forms of domination. this is important because it's not unrelated to the current moment: reactionary politics promises to turn back the clock to the "great" era when among other things it was not merely "tolerated or validated" but normative to approach the world this way.