thread of mandy (2018), melted psychedelic drone directed by panos cosmatos

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Yeah, I was trying to explain to someone that even a spoiler-laden description of the basic plot wouldn't really tell you much and certainly wouldn't prepare you for the experience.

Extra Shprankles (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link

yeah it's completely spoiler-proof imho

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link

no one in this thread at least has spoiled the most important part of the movie, which rhymes with “header cobblin’”

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link

lol

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link

Yeah, it's perhaps worth noting that for such an oppressively dark movie, there are more than a few lols to be had.

Extra Shprankles (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link

Also, 'header cobblin' scene was directed by Caspar Kelly (of Too Many Cooks fame)!

Extra Shprankles (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link

Also also, while I thought that scene was hilarious if wildly incongruent at first blush, upon reflection it seems to perfectly reflect the way that even goofy and innocuous stuff can feel absurd and horrifying in the wake of tragedy.

Extra Shprankles (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:30 (five years ago) link

yep kind of a brutal “life goes on” moment for me

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link

"shhrh gobbin..."

jmm, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link

I'm probably seeing this again tomorrow. It feels like a movie that may play differently on second viewing.

jmm, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link

no one in this thread at least has spoiled the most important part of the movie, which rhymes with “header cobblin’”

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:07 (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes

imago, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link

or idk the tiger roar was maybe the best bit?

the entire movie was an invitation to throw horns

imago, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 22:55 (five years ago) link

ugh, the nearest theater showing this is a five hour drive and a time zone away, fuck

WmC, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link

Well this was quite something.

Like someone reaching into my head and pulling out a load of things I love - Kubrick, Lynch, Park Chan Wook, P.T. Anderson, the Duffer Brothers, Jodorowsky, Alan Moore, Sam Rami, the Wickerman, Werner Herzog, Wheatley/Jump, Gaspar Noë, Troma, horrible Asian gore movies, ridiculous 80s slasher films etc- then mashing them all up with a rusty spoon before shoving them back into my head and stapling my scalp back shut

during the first part I couldn't work out if I plain loved it or whether it was standing on the shoulders of giants. did I like it on its own terms or more because it reminded me of so many other things I already love?

It was particularly easy to ponder this during some of the longer, more drawn-out scenes. No it's not so much a matter of pace exactly - I like the speed at which it unfolded- , but the propensity to linger for a bit too long on less interesting moments made my wonder on occasion.

I'm still not sure what I made of all this but by God did I stop caring by the second half.

Agree that Mandy the character could have been in it longer, or they could have at least put her on the poster - she was excellent whereas Cage is admittedly perfect as this sort of shell of a character

anyway, I was shell-shocked.its been a while since a film has had quite that impact, so hats off

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 23:21 (five years ago) link

I took the "header cobblin'" bit as a marker of the times, along with the Ronald Reagan soundbite we get early in the movie. (And I would love to unpack THAT, but spoilers?)

Accattony! Accattoni! Accattoné! (j.lu), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 23:38 (five years ago) link

the same reagan soundbite appears in black rainbow iirc

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 23:54 (five years ago) link

both films seem to document a real soul-deadening transition from the ‘70s to the ‘80s

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 23:55 (five years ago) link

Agree that Mandy the character could have been in it longer, or they could have at least put her on the poster

they did

https://s8.postimg.cc/gcfewvcet/mandyposter.jpg

My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Thursday, 18 October 2018 00:44 (five years ago) link

Took me half a week to go from kind of never wanting to see it again (in the best sense possible) to kind of desperately wanting to see it again (like right now).

Extra Shprankles (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 October 2018 02:31 (five years ago) link

xp the poster I saw is just a close up of Cage's face caked in blood

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Thursday, 18 October 2018 12:01 (five years ago) link

SPOILER, KINDA BUT CAN I JUST

'YoU HavE a DEatH wIsH'
'Yeah but I really don't wanna talk about that'

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Thursday, 18 October 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link

saw this in a theater again last night

god i love this movie

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 22 October 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link

the scene of cage grieving in the bathroom got identical audience reactions between both crowds i saw it with: laughter turning into uncomfortable laughter then finally decaying into (what i assume is) stunned silence

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 22 October 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link

shouts out to the dude i saw headbanging in his seat when the "mandy" titlecard appeared

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 22 October 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link

might go see this again tomorrow with a new bunch of ppl

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 22 October 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link

shouts out to the dude i saw headbanging in his seat when the "mandy" titlecard appeared

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 22 October 2018 17:57 (forty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think this is the moment i threw horns

imago, Monday, 22 October 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link

I think I need to see this again too

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Monday, 22 October 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

we just saw this - for me, again - and

"Amulet of the Weeping Maze" is song of the year.

― jmm, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 21:19 (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...i mean...yeah.

also, this time around i decided that mandy probably did kill a starling and didn't want to admit it

imago, Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link

There's a "mac and cheese"-accompanied Halloween screening happening here next week. Can't recall another movie attaining cult-classic status (complete with novelty screenings) this fast.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:27 (five years ago) link

really, there should be jars of acid mayo as well

imago, Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:28 (five years ago) link

normally i am extremely allergic to putting scores on my year-end lists but this one's making it. i even bought a copy! the liner notes panos wrote for jóhann are really lovely :(

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 26 October 2018 00:03 (five years ago) link

johansson is close to being mvp of this

imago, Friday, 26 October 2018 00:11 (five years ago) link

absolutely. when i see the thread pop up on site new answers, his soundtrack immediately pops into my mind. menacing drone + the color RED

the fleeking of america (Karl Malone), Friday, 26 October 2018 00:13 (five years ago) link

also, this time around i decided that mandy probably did kill a starling and didn't want to admit it

Do you think this monologue was meant to echo Silence of the Lambs? (Clarice STARLING...)

jmm, Friday, 26 October 2018 00:19 (five years ago) link

have you all heard track 2 of jeremiah sand's "album"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxu-ZpJsAQE

Karl Malone, Friday, 26 October 2018 00:22 (five years ago) link

this movie is perfect. on second viewing noticed the boxes of cheddar goblin in the crossbow dealer's trailer.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 26 October 2018 05:43 (five years ago) link

saw this last night, it frikkin owns

gbx, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

seeing this again tonight, I think, as the local theater has in fact arranged a showing

gbx, Saturday, 27 October 2018 23:13 (five years ago) link

I guess I missed all screenings.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 28 October 2018 00:50 (five years ago) link

didn't read the whole thread but i saw this last night and i loved it
Mandy herself was the highlight and I loved the scenes of their dull domestic life before everything went haywire
the soundtrack elevated everything, like a fancy beer can make a sandwich taste better

i did read enough to see this and i agree

Mandy (the character) was easily the most fleshed-out person in the entire movie - we get to know her tastes, a bit of her work, a bit about her past, and a lot about her personality from how she handles Jeremiah. so when she dies it feels like a real loss that alters the fabric of reality, not just a cheap bit of character motivation - so much so that all that's left for Red is revenge-movie, horror, and fantasy tropes to process his grief (see also the animated sequences).

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 29 October 2018 13:08 (five years ago) link

also i really want a mandy tshirt

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 29 October 2018 13:09 (five years ago) link

Do you think this monologue was meant to echo Silence of the Lambs? (Clarice STARLING...)

I thought Jeremiah was styled to recall Buffalo Bill (especially after Mandy rejected him), so you may be right.

And I'm a little envious of those of you who were at screenings with appreciative audiences. The audience at my screening was so silent that when I laughed I thought I'd committed a faux pas.

Accattony! Accattoni! Accattoné! (j.lu), Monday, 29 October 2018 14:56 (five years ago) link

Among the elements which recalled Lynch's work was most definitely the discordant clash of tones, those moments which are simultaneously horrifying and hilarious and the viewer is left feeling uncertain about how they should respond to what they're experiencing in a given moment. It's understandable that the same scene might induce laughter and uncomfortable silence from different people/audiences.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link

I mean, the experience on the whole was oppressive as fuck and I was left feeling like I'd been dragged behind a truck for two hours but I definitely cracked up a few times.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:07 (five years ago) link

i did not find it oppressive at all tbh
my partner and i both loled several times and mostly i found it engrossing

life has me feeling pretty low and this movie did not make it worse at all. i consider that a success! the soundtrack is really the thing that ties it together and makes it work imo.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link

it's definitely got that Lynchian 'wake up laughing at something terrifying' vibe about it

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link

one of the jeremiah acolytes looked sort of like buffalo bill to me (esp in profile) but i didn't consider it an allusion to SOTL, or even the starling thing.
really i don't enjoy hunting for references to other works when i watch a new one. i would rather just see if i can enjoy it at face value.
if the references pop out too strongly, i don't consider that a good thing. if they are hidden i think i like to let them remain so? idk

i liked it

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link

there were a lotta lols in my theater, though mostly from the same few folks. also the same ppl that yelled "hellllll yeah" when the movie ended.

my fave was the weird gurning faces cage threw in the closing scenes in the car

gbx, Monday, 29 October 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link

TIL what is gurn

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link


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