Is Bob Dylan overrated?

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the takes are going to be hottt!

tylerw, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link

I'm sure we could get a 1,000+ thread going right now if we want to get a jump on things

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:09 (five years ago) link

snowtakes

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link

honestly, though are there any new frontiers for dylan hot-takers? feels like everything has been covered. there's probably someone out there who's written tens of thousands of words on christmas in the heart. (which is great, don't get me wrong!)

tylerw, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

feel like ILM is full of hot takes on Street Legal tbh

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

maybe that was the last frontier idk

unless you can cook up a hot take on Froggy Goes a Courtin

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link

Everything he did is worthless except tarantula

coetzee.cx (wins), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link

Anyone been hailing Knocked Out Loaded or Down in the Groove as lost classics? I know everyone loves “Brownsville Girl” (hot take: it’s kinda funny but stupid and not really worth returning to, “Long and Wasted Years” uses the same delivery in a 10x better song)

JoeStork, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link

I posted a lil' about "KOL" recently: Defend the very defensible - Knocked Out Loaded

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

Street Legal is good!

Duke, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:04 (five years ago) link

I love Street-Legal -- OG mix, not 1999 Don DeVito mix. Represent!

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:05 (five years ago) link

i'm gonna post and tweet so much it's gonna be insane

― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:05 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Me2. I will be more insufferable than I was when Bowie died

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link

is preferring the 1999 street legal mix a hot take? i prefer it.

tylerw, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link

I bought it years ago and promptly returned it. Maybe I'd like it more now, I dunno. The version on Spotify seems to be OG mix?

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

Oh dear. I didn't realise there was a Street Legal mix beef. No idea which side I'm on....

Duke, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link

The original mix is a horror; the 1999 mix improved it vastly. It's still not a great album (I'm fine with okay).

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link

God, I love the Dylan thing of putting a 12-bar blues song as track #2 on an LP.

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:12 (five years ago) link

I've an old vinyl edition and the 2003 reissue. Is the latter the remix?

Duke, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link

HOW MUCH
HOW MUCH

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link

feel like ILM is full of hot takes on Street Legal tbh

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:29 PM (fifty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sorry Street Legal is good is canon now

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link

fine, then my hot take is that it is actually terrible

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link

The 2003 SACD reissue is indeed the remix. Tho according to da Wiki - "In 2014, as part of The Complete Album Collection Vol. 1, Street-Legal was again remastered, but restored to its original 1978 Stan Kalina LP mix."

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

THE ORIGINAL IS BACK! That's some "A New Hope Restored Without the Late-90s CGI" fan-dream shizz

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

Shakey, Alfred - I can't believe you don't love this album! Aside from "Is Your Love in Vain?" (one weak track, smack in the middle), this is such a hott LP.

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

lucky for everyone because original vinyl of Street Legal isn't exactly in every single record store of all time

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

my feelings about Street Legal are well documented on the Street Legal thread.

which at least produced the LEGAL HASSLE Dylan/Reed mashup joke

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link

Well the last thing I remember before I stripped & kneeled
Was a trainload of fools bogged down in a magnetic field

Fuck yeah!!!

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link

Shakey, Alfred - I can't believe you don't love this album! Aside from "Is Your Love in Vain?" (one weak track, smack in the middle), this is such a hott LP.

― brush ’em like crazy (morrisp),

The writing is windy self-parody in a lot of places even on songs I like ("Senor"). "Where Are You Tonight (Journey Through Dark Heat)" is "Like a Rolling Stone" extended to crackpot length.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link

Well the last thing I remember before I stripped & kneeled
Was a trainload of fools bogged down in a magnetic field

This is what I meant by a Dylan imitator.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link

"I fought with my twin/My enemy within," undergirded by bongos, is my idea of Dylan hell.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link

Damn, this is prime-era Dylan for me.

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:49 (five years ago) link

"If you don't believe there's a price for this sweet paradise / Remind me to show you the scars"

!!!???

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link

that's good

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link

get ready for my hot take

Bob Dylen suxxxxxxx

vanjie wail (qiqing), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link

unless you can cook up a hot take on Froggy Goes a Courtin

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, October 16, 2018 8:30 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbh my memory is that i kinda like his version of froggy goes a courtin!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link

RENEGADE PRIESTS

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link

+1000

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link

I have a memory of a conversation with difficult listening hour in which we treated every sentence as a line from "Changing of the Guards."

"I need a beer"

I NEED. A. BEER.

"I think we need to take this right."

TAKE. THIS. RIGHT.

anyway

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:09 (five years ago) link

Like regardless of whether this song is "imitation Dylan" or not, the whole lyric is so excellent to me - https://www.bobdylan.com/songs/where-are-you-tonight-journey-through-dark-heat/

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link

I can’t believe it, I can’t believe I’m alive!!

...But without you, it doesn't seem right

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link

Now I've moved on to Saved; pounding air piano at my desk

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:23 (five years ago) link

now *that's* a good record

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:25 (five years ago) link

PRESSIN ON

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:25 (five years ago) link

Ok there’s definitely more than one weak track on Street Legal. I really like “Where Are You Tonight” though (and I’m pretty sure it’s shorter than “Like a Rolling Stone”).

JoeStork, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:30 (five years ago) link

Christ, “No Time to Think” is interminable before the first verse ends.

JoeStork, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:45 (five years ago) link

"Is Your Love in Vain" is a classic example of interminable misogynist groaning.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link

DO YOU UUUNDERSTAAAHHND MAH PAAAAIIINN

All too well, you self-pitying bimbo

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link

I have dined with kings, I’ve been offered wings
And I’ve never been too impressed

has always reminded me of:

I've been undressed by kings
And I've seen some things that a woman ain't supposed to see

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link

(I agree this one track is dudsville)

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link


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