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but his rapes

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 15 October 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link

I mean, if she specifically comes out with a new statement excusing him, it's going to be talked about. You can't have it both ways, if she is making public statements people are going to talk about them.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 15 October 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link

A lot easier not to talk about the Clinton's when they don't release boneheaded statements weeks before an election tbf xps

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 15 October 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

yes, get them -- no, HER -- to STFU

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 October 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

but yes, both over the cliff

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 October 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link

tell cbs to stop booking her too

if we’re going to go after all culpable parties here

maura, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:23 (five years ago) link

why is it never the fault of the interviewers or producers

maura, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:23 (five years ago) link

"why did you give me this hammer, now I've gone and hit myself in the head"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 October 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link

i’m not defending hrc morbs. i’m saying that even fluffy sunday morning magazine shows should focus on the future.

maura, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link

the pursuit of eyeballs is an inherently conservative thing and unfortunately tv is all about that as is online media.... which is why the usual suspects are constantly trotted out

maura, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link

their hits are almost always retro

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 October 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link

Stop talking about Hillary.

Unlike Dubya, Bill and Hillary will never stop trying to be seen as politically relevant and will always step into whatever spotlight is offered to them. Even Obama has kept a fairly low profile compared to Hillary, who's toured to flog her book since the election. I conclude she very much wants us to talk about her. But, you're right, we shouldn't.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 15 October 2018 16:29 (five years ago) link

Hillary and Bill decide whether or not to give interviews and what to give interviews about. I guarantee you they have a great deal of control over the subject matter, and they are grown ups who know how to say "I don't have a comment on that" even if surprised. She wanted to put that message out.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 15 October 2018 16:33 (five years ago) link

okay fine. only they are culpable. you’re all right. the way media relies on the same old names to bring in eyeballs certainly isn’t a problem at all.

maura, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link

Christ. It literally is so easy to pay her only a roll of the eyes.

Yerac, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link

there's even an emoji for it

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Monday, 15 October 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link

if you insist on posting about it

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Monday, 15 October 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link

I don't emoji.

Yerac, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link

good policy probably

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Monday, 15 October 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link

okay fine. only they are culpable. you’re all right. the way media relies on the same old names to bring in eyeballs certainly isn’t a problem at all.

― maura, Monday, October 15, 2018 11:34 AM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean, that's a problem in the entirety of politics, but it's kind of a weird deflection to make when someone intentionally and prominently defends severely problematic behavior in said media.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 15 October 2018 17:10 (five years ago) link

Hillary and Bill decide whether or not to give interviews and what to give interviews about. I guarantee you they have a great deal of control over the subject matter, and they are grown ups who know how to say "I don't have a comment on that" even if surprised. She wanted to put that message out.

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), 15. oktober 2018 18:33 (fifty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol, no

Frederik B, Monday, 15 October 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link

I'm going to give her the credit that at this point in her public life, if she says something in an interview, it's because she intends it to be heard.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 15 October 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link

she's successfully avoided a ton of subjects for 20+ years

President Keyes, Monday, 15 October 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link

The interview is about the 'pink wave', and she is promoting a new afterword about sexism to her book 'What Happened'. Anyone think she 'wanted' to talk about Bill?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pink-wave-2018-midterm-elections-hillary-rodham-clinton-jahana-hayes-kimberlin-brown-pelzer/

Frederik B, Monday, 15 October 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link

as with what they think, i don't care what they want

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 October 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

when you're dead, you should lie down

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 October 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

Fred, don't be fucking naive. A network will take a Hillary interview on her terms. She could easily make it a condition that she's not answering questions about Bill. These things are highly stage managed.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 15 October 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

she is promoting a new afterword about sexism to her book 'What Happened'. Anyone think she 'wanted' to talk about Bill?

― Frederik B, Monday, October 15, 2018 6:05 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're right though even if this thing wasn't stage managed to the nth degree how could she ever have anticipated and prepared a response to a question related to the topic of what she's promoting

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 15 October 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link

Bernie Sanders is in Milwaukee today campaigning for Tony Evers and Tammy Baldwin. I don't think there are wings of the party in the Midwest anymore; it feels like all Democrats are just out there saying "if we make this election about healthcare healthcare healthcare and education education education we win" and the furious backpedaling by GOP candidates here (Scott Walker now insisting he too supports going to back to the old K-12 funding formula, and he too wants to protect people with pre-existing conditions) suggests that the election will indeed be fought on this Democrat-friendly ground. (Though of course Walker can still win if enough people can get themselves to believe his latest insistences.)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 13:45 (five years ago) link

The ads run by the democrat running to unseat my republican rep here in Michigan are like 90% health care related, as are the dozen mailers I get every week. She's stated that her mother getting cancer in 2009 and going through a ton of bullshit and almost going bankrupt was what caused her to get into politics in the first place.

joygoat, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link

Every poll I've seen suggests that -- at long last -- Dems no longer feel defensive about health care.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:27 (five years ago) link

This is probably what the Cherokees were afraid of https://t.co/5EHb8U2PWA

— Chad Vi(gore)ous (@PrettyBadLefty) October 16, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link

wait, does that mean Trump would have to think up a racist native american slur for Huckleberry

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link

no Alfred, now they have immigration to be defensive about

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

but his rapes

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, October 15, 2018 9:10 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gross fuckin way of putting this imo

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link

so nice of the Senate Minority Leader to do everything he possibly can to confirm more and more conservative circuit court judges

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link

hillary and bill are going on a tour, this is the context in which she chose to defend bill again.

their tour stop in my city features floor seats for > $800 canadian

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:01 (five years ago) link

they're awful people and should go away forever

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:01 (five years ago) link

if anyone can spare $80, these 8 statehouse races seem like a good place to spend it

https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2018/10/16/data-for-politics-29-give-smart

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 04:46 (five years ago) link

fucking targeted tax credits

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 02:14 (five years ago) link

lmao come back next week with a new one KH

like what the hell is even a tax credit, send people a check

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 02:26 (five years ago) link

just cut every american a check for $6000 and take it from Jeff Bezos' dryer lint

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 02:26 (five years ago) link

you don't even have to do it every year! It'd change the world forever to do it once

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 02:28 (five years ago) link

It’s an improvement over her previous idea, a tax deduction on rent aka the transfer wealth to landlords act.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 02:45 (five years ago) link

tbf the proposal is that you would be able to advance the $6,000 as a $500/month payment rather than waiting to file for it next april. aka a stealth basic income halfway sorta.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 03:05 (five years ago) link

It's a fairytale proposal with Trump and a likely GOP Senate, if this is your opening move for 2020 do you really think people get fired up hearing "tax credits"?

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 03:09 (five years ago) link

i think the idea is that they'd get fired up hearing "$500/month" but ymmv

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 03:45 (five years ago) link

matty.....otm

I agree with the spirit of what @SenBooker is trying to propose here, but Democrats really need to learn not to run campaigns based on complicated phase-out schedules. https://t.co/1ly6KYfSmR pic.twitter.com/ooDXMEIYY2

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) October 22, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 03:46 (five years ago) link

Isn't part of the sovereign citizen insanity that every American gets a secret bank account at birth?

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 03:49 (five years ago) link


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