Fallout 76 - tricentennial edition

Ilx crew???

i think the player bases are persistent but not the whole world, so each time you start a session you're in a new world instance but you can load your base up and plop it down somewhere.

I've been playing forza horizon 4 which also does the 24 people per instance shared world thing, but in that you're driving fast cars around so the world is effectively a lot smaller and you see other players often, not sure what the intended frequency of contact is here but i imagine it's much lower unless there's a hub area that everyone's drawn to.

extremely good developer imo

Bethesda warns Fallout 76 fans to expect 'spectacular' bugs and issues https://t.co/V1IB2gOTog pic.twitter.com/SEkD7GwqZU

— PC Gamer (@pcgamer) October 22, 2018

i was open to the concept of this game when they revealed it but every piece of preview info has made it look worse

seeing a lot of 'this is better than i expected' impressions from the beta test so idk what to expect now

i watched a stream of it last night for about an hour and was bored to tears. granted, it was low level stuff, so mainly just swatting at mole rats with a machete, but it just looks like fallout 4, online, with the option to form a small team. for some reason that intrigued me a few months ago, and i'm sure plenty of fans of fallout 4 will enjoy making fallout 76 their new home for the next several months. but watching that stream just reminded me that i am done with the fallout experience, as it currently exists.

Is this possible / recommended to play solo?

it's playable solo but you're still online and can run into the other 20 people

So you know how bethesda games were revealed to have their physics tied to the game's framerate, right.

As in, if you edit one of their game's .ini file you can cause the physics to go apeshit and also you move and swing melee at super speed.

well they didn't fix that for 76

— 🏳️‍🌈ＳＰＡＣＥＤＡＤＥＣＡＰＳ 🏳️‍🌈 (@SuperSpacedad) October 31, 2018

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Wireshark ftw

Gameshark was better.

Fallout 4 was a disappointment that I clutched onto for far too long. Nothing ever changes. The developers tried to make areas seem unique but there are only so many ways to place a mannequin, teddy bear and skeleton. NPCs were static and they repeated the same lines over and over again. Menus were tedious. VATS felt like cheating by simplifying skill and gameplay. Companions were generally annoying af. So was trying to please them. The series doesn't need 76. It needs a complete overhaul.

I suppose the nature of online gaming means that Vats won't slow down time. This makes me approve of Vats.

Top thread here:

gonna roleplay in Fallout 76 as a new york times journalist trying to take the pulse of forgotten america

— Low-Level Yankee Luminary (@bombsfall) November 15, 2018

sprinting after a killer robot yelling DO YOU FEEL THE WHITE WORKING CLASS HAS BEEN LEFT BEHIND

— Low-Level Yankee Luminary (@bombsfall) November 15, 2018

Etc

lol, extremely good

a high level event in Fallout 76 is JD Vance rolls down to WV from OH on a militarized segway and you have to fight him and Peter Thiel who is there to harvest the blood of vault survivors. JD mostly just points at the blasted wasteland and decries the culture of helplessness

— Low-Level Yankee Luminary (@bombsfall) November 15, 2018

this might be the only entertainment value this game offers

Basic question, but what's the appeal of Fallout?

I mean, I understand the appeal of Mad Max-style dystopia, or Neuromancer, or the Paranoia RPG, etc, but these games just look super fucking depressing. There's a version of "too soon!" that's "too likely".

perky 50s sci-fi optimism crashing into postapocalyptic nightmare is kind of a unique milieu, and it's fascinating to explore when it's done right, new vegas being the high point for me (fallout 1&2 diehards don't @ me)

how was fallout 4? i was thinking of getting it but i'm on the fence

like fallout 3 but bigger and with more tedious base-building

In fallout 4 you’re forced to roleplay as the dumbest, worst parent on the entire earth

i'll save my kid ffs i just need to get a cocktail recipe for this robot first

i've never played any of the fall outs

(fallout 1&2 diehards don't @ me)

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New Vegas is the closest Bethesda's gotten to the right mood. I think the problem is that they somehow thought the tone was "perky 50s sci-fi optimism" when the original games (and to an extent, NV) were at their most cynical when using those elements! every indication was that the past actually sucked and the cheery retro junk was very much in the vein of retro-50s diners being a thing in the 1980s.

the backstory does riff on every "your nuclear future" advertisement and public service announcement from the 1950s coming true (nuclear cars! robots maids to do your housework!) but the nuclear war that sets the stage for humanity living in vaults doesn't happen until *2077*

the cheery crap is all propaganda that existed to pacify a world that was circling the drain

fallout 3 and new vegas are great, fallout 4 was not good - they didn't really improve the graphics or gameplay or world, and the stuff they added (building, the supersuits, etc) was tedious

imo the one thing fallout 3 dropped that was essential to the earlier games (and NV) was the song and dance of cultivating alliances with different factions

nothing like running into a heavily armed group in the middle of nowhere only to realize they're on your side

i started with 3 and still haven't really played 1 or 2 even though i have them on my computer, so idc about that

I liked Fallout 3! I feel like I've avoided mentioning that it was a lot of fun and, overall, actually less glitchy than 1 & 2

Fallout 4 sidetracks you to mundane tasks that you could skip but gabnabbit you already built one settlement... time to lose 24 hours doing the exact same thing all over the wasteland. The world becomes chore city at that point....

I started with 2, went back to one, then beat both a few years before 3 debuted. New Vegas is the series highlight, tho I dove in deep to 4 that I burned out at the end and never went back to play the DLC.

I’d guess of ilx gamers you’re one of the people to dive the deepest on the games and I appreciate your perspective

I will play absolute garbage to death sometimes and I’m afraid if I got around to fo4 or 76 I would just be grooming a shack in a miserable wasteland for years

yeah, i put like 40 hours into fallout 4 and i didn't really enjoy any of it :(

sounds like a bad work week

I think F76 has potential, it just might take a year or more to get there. IDGAF about MMO’s generally but I know Elder Scrolls Online was kind of a dud on first release but is supposedly really solid now.

sounds like a bad work week

rest assured i've learned my lesson and now spend my work week posting full-time instead

The series helped spark my interest in Googie and midcentury design/commercial illustration

But without NPCs or narrative, I can’t see the point of playing until the game gets built up after a year or so

I think there’s a game experience that companies have yet to really sell, because the return isn’t guaranteed: the evolving world. Bethesda is trying this, possibly more honestly than others have, by giving a limited experience that isn’t open-ended as far as gameplay, but as far as the game experience itself. It’s unplanned space: the things added to the game world will be reactive based on player actions and feedback, and the price early adopters pay is not for a product but for the reactive addition of gameplay elements. It’s an interesting feedback loop because without additional cost to the consumers, the entire incentive on the developer is the continued improvement that spurns further adoption.

Whether it ends up like a suburban development where people end up moving in and population demands result in more stores and schools or it becomes like one of those unpopulated cities built for a future workforce that fails to materialize before the buildings begin to fall into disrepair, is yet to be seen

that's an interesting idea, but how would it work in practice? the things that i immediately think of things like larger settlements/cities organically evolving from player decisions, or maybe things like players designating market areas for trading, and then developers adding tools or items to help players do things like that.

but those sounds more like things that could happen in a MMORPG, not so much a 24-player server. so do you mean things more like developers responding to players being frustrated with the poor aiming controls by implementing better auto-aim or something similar?

xp i remember reading about someone's idea that cloud game streaming would open up the possibilities of much more dynamic MMO worlds, as you could have the world change more frequently and/or more drastically without the burden of having to constantly push out massive clientside updates to make it work

figure out what unexpected players do and expand on it

like the corpse-humping in fps games? now we have horrible victory emotes

on second thought...

Marked down to $40 already on Xbox

Down to £30 here in the UK today.

The reviews have been pretty bad mind

granted they'll probably try and make a lot of dlc money on this but i can't remember the last time a game got this discounted this quickly. people who bought it on day 1 have barely had it a week?!

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The boiling rage this has gotten from Gamers has been pretty amusing.

Nerds tryin to put together a class action lawsuit because the fucking tote bag included in the Ultra Deluxe edition was nylon instead of canvas. Todd Howard being burned in effigy in message boards across the land.

fallout 76 patched last night and the patch has broken guns. guns no longer kill enemies. only melee consistently works. good, great

— Waldorf Sixpence (@WaldorfSixpence) December 5, 2018

not often a game exceeds my expectations of how shitty it’s gonna be, hats off to Bethesda

it’s not without its charms but it’s not bringing much to the table either - i’m 15 hours or so in and wondering whether i should keep going

i haven’t found it particularly challenging but i’m a time-strapped gamer dad now so it’s not really been a problem cuz i can’t be arsed getting killed over and over again in a story-focused game nowadays

(this is a weird thread to be having this convo in btw since it’s not a fallout game and it’s not developed by the people who made fallout 76)

the one person I know with it aaid its the best RPG he's ever played

outer worlds is not very fun, the writing is bad (and there's SO MUCH of it) and the shooting is horrible (and there's SO SO MUCH of it)

I like it but I went in with low expectations. Color scheme is pleasing and I think those are truffala plants outside of Edgewater???

(this is a weird thread to be having this convo in btw since it’s not a fallout game and it’s not developed by the people who made fallout 76)

Polygon just wrote that piece

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2019/11/7/20952172/outer-worlds-rpg-length-20-hour-game-100-hour-story-campaign

Much love to any remaining staff from the Fallout 1/2 era, but Outer Worlds looks uh... kinda lame. I guess there’s a push from angry nerds to be all “This is how Fallout SHOULD be Bethesda!” but the gameplay footage I’ve seen has not been enticing.

rockpapershotgun posted some article about how fallout 76 fans were enjoying the new changes to the game and i snarked on twitter fake news there are no fallout 76 fans and for like 5 days there wasn't a single other comment on the rps twitter thread which seemed to validate my assertion but then i guess the 5 players that do still play (and some of whom were quoted in the original article) found my comment and one wrote "there are more players than you have twitter followers" which i certainly hope is true but doesn't say much for the playerbase and then all 5 of her clanmembers in the game i guess posted "you burned him!" gif memes and basically highfived tbph i thought it was extremely cute but i do feel like probably these teens/young adults (idk) would benefit from playing better games.

hahaha

The human toll of Fallout 76’s disastrous launch: https://t.co/1x5ncPZ1ZH pic.twitter.com/29lwyWGkMj

— Kotaku (@Kotaku) June 8, 2022

when I saw this thread reappear in my bookmarked threads I thought it was a thread on this game, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_%2776, which I dare say was more fun