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Howard Jacobson did a comprehensive denouncement of Kavanaugh/Trump etc on R4 last night, and then finished the broadcast by saying woman should be banned from using the word "patriarchy" because it makes them sound like students!

calzino, Saturday, 13 October 2018 10:45 (five years ago) link

Mind you, rapist judge Kavanaugh seems to have shown that you can have an incoherent bawling tantrum in public and still have the support of the army of twats, so maybe it doesn't matter now.

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 October 2018

Main differences for me, are

1) Kavanaugh doing it on the way up, not down. Anything is excused if it deployed in the service of winning
2) Kavanaugh doing it on someone elses media, not his own social media page.
3) Kavanaugh mixing it up with anger, and at 'them'. Just enough of "whos the real victim here anyway?" before switching the play back onto attack. Supporters recognize game

anvil, Saturday, 13 October 2018 11:10 (five years ago) link

Don't get caught being yesterdays man

anvil, Saturday, 13 October 2018 11:11 (five years ago) link

Having sad tantrums is totally on brand for the alt-right

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 13 October 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link

Gavin McInnes gave a talk last night in Manhattan and then some Proud Boys beat up some people, made video, and took group photos.
http://gothamist.com/2018/10/13/proud_boys_beating_video.php

ian, Saturday, 13 October 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link

Multiple disturbing videos taken at the scene appear to show dozens of Proud Boys swarming two people on the ground, shouting "you're dead, motherfucker" and "faggot" as they take turns attacking them. Three people were arrested following the event, according to police, though a public defender with the Legal Aid Society says she's confirmed that the arrests were of anti-racist protesters.

Nice

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 13 October 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link

The dude with the sword? That’s Gavin McInnes, founder of the far-right fascist gang the Proud Boys. The vandalism? No evidence that it’s “antifa.” The violence? Videos from last night show abt 20 Proud Boys beating 3 people while they’re on the ground.

This is so infuriating https://t.co/AaIM5gpmqL

— Christopher Mathias (@letsgomathias) October 13, 2018

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 13 October 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link

That was in response to a fox news story claiming this was an incident of “antifa” violence

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 13 October 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45851665

piscesx, Saturday, 13 October 2018 23:17 (five years ago) link

gavin m makes me wish that fentanyl cut heroin was more of a thing in the 90s and 00s

maura, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link

(i was on a panel with him once and all he talked about was his smack shooting past. how glamorous. he’s a fucking idiot.)

maura, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link

Vice Magazine was the trojan horse for so much of this back in the day, it's pretty disgusting to go back and think about early issues which were scattered for free strategically around hipster hoods in L.A. (and i'm sure even moreso in NYC and the like.)

omar little, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link

oh yeah they were all over new york

maura, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link

the only "antifa violence" I can seem to find anything about in the incident is someone pulling a MAGA hat off a guy's head.

Proud Boys seems like a vehicle for basement-dwelling softies to run with a few actual skinhead gang members and feel tough as they get their one kick in on a defenseless guy getting jumped by 20 people.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 15 October 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

I used to work for a publisher that put out two issues of the Vice "Dos and Don'ts" photos, which often amounted to photographic sexual assault of unconsenting young women in various compromising positions. So I'm glad Vice "grew up" or whatever but spare me.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 15 October 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link

everyone i ever met that regularly read Vice was either an idiot or an asshole. and yes those early issues were all over Manhattan in the early 00s.

flappy bird, Monday, 15 October 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link

I definitely know a few former "Vice hipster" types who have gone alt right.

A strange memory that just came back to me: in the late 90s when I became acquainted with that crew of people in college and didn't really know anything whatsoever about that scene/milieux, I remember observing that there was this set of them who were huge record nerds but listened to almost no black music whatsoever, as far as I could tell, and I just found that really odd, like how could you be a music nerd and have so little interest in black music. At the time I just kind of dismissed the thought, but now it makes sense to me.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 15 October 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link

Cernovich is going back to jail lol

frogbs, Monday, 15 October 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

lol, what a turd

Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes goes on Newsmax TV to distance himself from members of his group who attacked protestors Saturday night in NYC. He says he doesn't "control these guys," and "I'm the founder, not the leader." https://t.co/8PWoRqwUfA

— Nick Martin (@nickmartin) October 15, 2018

maura, Monday, 15 October 2018 23:41 (five years ago) link

god what an utter piece of shit he is, was, and forever will be

maura, Monday, 15 October 2018 23:42 (five years ago) link

Cernovich is going back to jail lol

Wait is this real, I hope?

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link

Please share this video. People need to understand how dangerous Gavin McInnes and his gang the Proud Boys are.

Notify his employers @CRTV and @FoxNews. Maybe we can prevent him from getting someone else killed. pic.twitter.com/zp0VBrmciR

— Vic Berger IV (@VicBergerIV) October 17, 2018

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 20 October 2018 19:58 (five years ago) link

connecting some important dots IMO

https://medium.com/s/story/why-are-the-proud-boys-so-obsessed-with-masturbation-c9932364ebe2

portugal. the bland (sleeve), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link

In the same way that Jews are bonded by a shared rejection of shellfish and pork

stopped reading here

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link

that’s an uh interesting perspective on judaism alright

i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link

comparing Jews to a white supremacist organization, what could go wrong

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link

also implying that kashrut is a method of social control rather than a survival mechanism for avoiding trichinosis in a tribal desert environment is just stupid

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link

thank you, missed that :(

portugal. the bland (sleeve), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link

tbf I had no idea about this #nowanks thing so I guess I learned something else I didn't know about these hateful idiots at least

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link

This essay is not so bad.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link

I agree with her overall analysis. And prohibitions definitely seeve a group bonding function for all sorts of groups—it’s not necessarily a bad thing.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link

def makes me think if Wilhelm Reich's theories/writing, suppression of sexuality in the service of fascism

portugal. the bland (sleeve), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link

if of

portugal. the bland (sleeve), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link

iirc the writer is jewish

maura, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link

still stupid

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 22:25 (five years ago) link

well there's as much proof for it as the trichinosis thing i.e. none

Number None, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link

idk it makes more sense than Jews being a bunch of people who just happened to not like pork and shellfish

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 22:50 (five years ago) link

you're being facetious

Do we know why those laws came into practice? No. Do they as function as a set of behaviours that sets Jews apart as a distinct group? Absolutely

Number None, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link

Not sure she claimed that. Seemed more like dietary restrictions were one kind of social practice that helped bind the Jewish community through the years. Not the only one.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 22:55 (five years ago) link

Xp

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 22:55 (five years ago) link

FBI bagged another one
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/FBI-Arrests-White-Nationalist-Who-Fled-the-Country-13332908.php

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 20:53 (five years ago) link

A worthwhile Twitter thread from David Neiwert.

1) For some reason, folks on the right have extremely short memories when it comes to acts of right-wing political violence. This is especially the case when they are in the middle of a propaganda campaign to make "the left" look violent. A long thread with lots of pix follows. pic.twitter.com/D6MtFP4k65

— David Neiwert (@DavidNeiwert) October 15, 2018

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

xp great, he'll go back to prison and grow his personal brand

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link

An embarrassing day for those on the right claiming the Left is violent.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 22:06 (five years ago) link

if they were capable of admitting to embarrassment, sure

i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link

billionaire financial speculators, former US presidents, and cable news organizations - all of whom are complicit in if not directly responsible for multiple imperial genocides - are now "figures on the left" pic.twitter.com/7ViigkygJp

— BrundlePsyPal (@YouSeemFine) October 24, 2018

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 22:30 (five years ago) link

woah was convinced that tweet was gonna be shared by Simon H or Morbs

Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Thursday, 25 October 2018 09:18 (five years ago) link


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