suncream, zits and wrinkles: rolling skincare thread?

Took all of your advice upthread. I only wash my face once daily. My skin looks ... noticeably younger, which is to say that I look my actual age, as opposed to late 40s.

In other news, Mrs. Bean won a sweepstakes she didn't know she'd entered. The prize was $400 of Korean skin products. We've got enough snail mucin to coat our entire bodies, should the need arise. And facemasks...

Also, Jaq, I had the same experience w. the Neutrogena this summer. My chin got extra angry with me. I switched to the Kiehl's Ultra Facial Moisturizer SPF 30, which seems to've done the trick. Coincidentally, I'm broke.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4541287/deciem-estee-lauder-brandon-truaxe/

TORONTO – The founder of Deciem, the self-professed “Abnormal Beauty Company,” saw his reign at the Toronto cosmetics brand come to an unusual end on Friday.


Brandon Truaxe was ousted from his role as the company’s chief executive and board member on an interim basis after a judge approved an Ontario court application from Estee Lauder Companies Inc., which holds a one-third stake in Deciem.

In its application, Estee Lauder said its fight to oust Truaxe was fuelled by hundreds of “outrageous, disturbing, defamatory, and/or offensive posts” he made on Deciem’s social media pages over the last year that “harmed” the business and its reputation.

“He has essentially lit the company on fire,” he told a judge. “Maybe he was once a diabolical marketing genius building the brand…but he’s gone too far.”

Whoaho! I haven’t been paying attention to him (bc i can’t deal with twitter?) but tbh all I want is my retinoid in squalane solution, ha. Now I’m worried if Estée takes over then the company might not technically be based in Canada? and I won’t have access to products without paying huge duties, shipping, etc. The woes of trying to online shop as a Canadian are real!!

Washing your face once a day is a skin game changer, yes!
Rinsing your face as soon as you wake up and not lingering over breakfast and coffee and whatever is also a skin game changer! Not sure why it took me this long to figure that one out...

it will still be based in canada afaict. it's all very sad, really. the guy needs help asap. the "defmatory" instagram posts have gone now (i don't know why i put defamatory in "" because they were clearly so) and the final video insta-post seemed to suggest that he was in the grip of some kind of alt-right delusion.

have to say that deciem/ordinary/hylamide products have changed my skin very notably so i'm strangely invested in him and in his recovery. it seems like a performative stunt (or series of) that got out of hand or took on its own life. it seemed like a joke but it became a very bad and dark joke.

My order arrived! Perhaps things are clicking along OK after all?

I know this is hugely First World Problems but I got a birch box subscription for my birthday and due to having two kids and a load of other stress I haven't had a chance to try out hardly any of it! I just want to put on a sheet mask and listen to the Mitski album which I also got months ago but can't listen to with child around because it has a swear in it.

anyone getting a beauty advent calendar?

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— Kamalavathe (@kamalavathe) September 3, 2018

I would gladly do this for him!

I've been using The Ordinary retinoids but I really have to monitor it. It makes around my mouth so dry.

As soon as winter happened last month I had to quit using active ingredients including the ordinary stuff bc my skin decided it was eczema time. Everything is ok now though but I’m still wary.

That’s interesting that retinoids make your mouth dry!

Oh hi I turned 45 today and my cheeks are melting into my nevk! Not very wrinkly, though. Thanks to decades of breakouts I’ve used retinols for decades!

xpost, it's the corners of mouth for maybe a half inch out that are crazy dry.

i have a spot on the right of my chin that gets super dry when i use retinoids before my period. it seemed weird until i figured it out and now it's how i know the train is coming lol

omg skin, always changing!
Ah maybe it’s retinoids that have done that to the corners of my mouth too. After not using them for over a month I’ve had no issues in that area, hm, will steer clear of mouth corners in future...

I have issue around the corners of my mouth because I tend to drink a lot of high acid wine and eat spicy/high acid food. And I am also allergic to most lipsticks. But this was a different type of dryness and I know for sure it was the retinoids.

I have no idea what’s going on but since i left the states my skin has been a mess. I’ve veen pretty lucky up until now but it was so bad I went to a private doc to get a prescription for Differin. I really really hope it works because I hate this!

You are in the UK? It might be the water or just from traveling. I think London has really hard water, it always makes my hair crazy. Where I am in SA, my hair falls out/breaks so much more because the water is so minerally

I was wondering if it was the water! It’s so weird but I’ve never had this many problems before. Hopefully this will sort it out.

My hair looked great while I was in Italy for 2 weeks in October. I think I only needed to wash it twice the whole time I was there.

I’ve been using Huxley sleep mask, a Strategist rec, but I’m not sure it’s doing the amazing things I’d read about. It’s supposed to be super hydrating and help reduce redness/blotchiness.

my hair also looked way better in Italy. it's the soft water; our uk water is dead hard

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/the-goods/2019/1/21/18191759/brandon-truaxe-deciem-dead

Deciem guy is dead.

OMG.

!!!

that's sad. my partner just bought some of that "the ordinary" stuff yesterday

I just looked at his Instagram and he was posting some very weird stuff in the last couple days. I didn’t follow the whole story very closely but, yes, it seems really not that surprising but very sad. He was 40.

wow, that's incredibly sad and shocking. such a troubled last year he had.

oh jeez

oh god :(

he had been posting weird stuff forever!

a lot of his recent posts are directed at trump?

from what I can determine re that: Brandon was mentally unstable for a while and had posted a lot of wild conspiracy theory stuff to instagram. A lot of his followers on insta were conspiracy theorists who added fuel to the fire by validating his delusions. His delusions became grander and he started to think, because he had a lot of followers (within a v niche group), that what he was doing was politically important and was connected, somehow, to broader destabilising movements and to Trump. He was also taking a lot of prescribed drugs and unprescribed ones (including alcohol). I'd guess that his death was as a result of a drugs and alcohol overdose but that may be wrong, of course.

Perhaps it's not right to speculate. I do feel bad that I read those detailed exposés of the unraveling of the situation with some glee, given what ultimately happened.

i don't know if it's right or not but as soon as i saw the headline i knew it was him

the thing I missed out in that summary was that Deciem had grown by being anti-establishment but the establishment was the beauty industry. Somehow in gaining so many followers so quickly his delusions took over and his desire to expose the established skincare companies became akin to broader political aims, in his mind. It's really a huge shame.

which, essentially, you can boil down to *cocaine is a hell of a drug*

I think I should start using a daily SPF moisturizer for my face, yes? here is my criteria:

* I have normal skin, it is not particularly oily or dry, it will be maintenance and not restorative so I don't need something like intense therapy extreme moisture to repair super dry skin
* it must be fragrance free bcz I hate smelling like things
* I want it to be as smooth weightless invisible as possible
* ideally it would be a mid-range brand like something from a drugstore or even Kiehl's or Jack Black, like I'd like to spend $10-30 on this? But certainly not more
* how much SPF?? I'm under the impression lower SPF = smoother lighter more weightless product but I have also read that you need a minimum of SPF 30 or there's really no point

Brands I am considering are Kiehl's, Neutrogena, La Roche-Posay, uhhhh I really have no idea what I'm doing. The problem is that these are all so expensive and I can't find trial sizes and I'm so reluctant to spending $20 so I can try something and then hate it

welcome to the world of skincare :-/

i use EltaMD UV Daily Facial Sunscreen Broad-Spectrum SPF 40, 1. 7 oz <-- just google those words. it's under $30, fragrance free, recommended by my dermatologist and doesn't sting.
idk if that is what you are looking for but that's what i use and it fits your requirements without making you go to a store if you don't want to. maybe you like going to the store, i find it easier to just order it.

or is this like trying to use 2 in 1 shampoo/conditioner and I really just need to get a quality moisturizer PLUS a quality sunscreen??? agahoighdklhga

I guess my goal is, like, keep my skin looking decent for as long as possible, while it's still in OK condition. The more I read about SPF -- it's worthless in a moisturizer and must be a separate product, you have to apply an insane amount for it to work, you must reapply every 2 hours, etc -- just makes me, like, why bother if I'm indoors pretty much all day?

I still need to try that Biore water essence spf 50 that they only sell in japan (but can be found on amazon). I am very, very bad about wearing spf everyday because I hate the weight of it. I did really like Peter Thomas Roth sheer spf but it's pricey.

Stevie try a Korean brand (and use a separate spf and moisturizer - the coverage is unreliable when it’s apllied in a moisturizer) like CosRx or Biore (you can find them on amazon). Alternatively, go to a Sephora and ask for samples.

we all have the same goal!
i use cerave regular moisturizer (that i get at target or wherever) and that abovementioned sunscreen
you kinda have to figure out what works for you. it takes a little effort.

Forget the 2 hr thing - no one is doing that unless they’re at the beach

Yerac you’ll like the biore - like the cosrx, it’s ectre light and non greasy

Ectre? I don’t know what I was trying to type there

I don't know CosRx. I will check it out!

has anyone tried the Neutrogena Hydro Boost?