US Politics, October 2018: next week will be even longer

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a feast of trumpisms: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/10/my-private-oval-office-press-conference-with-donald-trump.html

― mookieproof, Wednesday, October 10, 2018 2:26 PM (one hour ago)

This is seriously one of the most goddamn bizarre things I've ever read.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 22:31 (five years ago) link

As I turned to follow Sanders and Shine out of the room, someone said, “Hey, Olivia.” I turned toward the room again to see Kelly and Ayers entwined, their arms stretched around each other and their faces pressed close together. They smiled theatrically. “This is my friend,” Kelly said.

“Yes, and he’s mine,” Ayers said. “And I told her that. She knows that.”

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link

we are having a normal good time, like normal

1-800-CALL-ATT (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link

i'm not going to watch that holder video. fuck holder. i hope he doesn't run.

akm, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link

Is olivia nuzzi good or bad?

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link

thinking about trump trying to ingratiate himself with a pretty young blonde is nauseating

maura, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 22:49 (five years ago) link

xp not sure. the few times I've seen her interviewed on cable news she seemed ok. the piece almost seems like satire, or parody

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 22:50 (five years ago) link

xxp she's the next bob woodward

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link

the piece almost seems like satire, or parody

In a better universe, surely the case, but not this one.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 22:53 (five years ago) link

> this wild ride is going to crash. either that or the GOP will need to consolidate power permanently

On today's or yesterday's Ian Masters podcast, it was reported (IIRC, from Axios) that Trump was dancing in the West Wing, planning on placing another 2 justices this term, due to RBG's age and Sotomayor's diabetes.

Two more ultrapartisans like Kavanaugh, and I think I'll live to see the 2nd Civil War.

godless hippie skank (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 22:53 (five years ago) link

xp: Natural linen suit + Panama hat is a classic wardrobe for tropical climes, and I won't let nazi sympathizers take it from me.

godless hippie skank (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link

probably mentioned above, but the court refusing to hear the challenge to the north dakota voter ID law is par for the bullshit course

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link

xp

Apparently she wore a pith helmet too which is o_O

Idk, don’t put a lot of sinister importance on any of this, she’s most likely just ignorant and corny.

circa1916, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link

Pro tip for Stevolende: start all your posts with “On today’s or yesterday’s firstname lastname podcast, I heard...”

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link

El Tomboto, Ian Masters has been the Axios of broadcast interviews for 2 decades. Super deep rolodex. The discussion of GOP plans to maintain minority rule indefinitely was his interview with Aziz Huq, U. Chicago law prof, from 9 Oct.

godless hippie skank (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 23:41 (five years ago) link

Olivia Nuzzi wrote the "Milo is my friend" piece, no?

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 23:47 (five years ago) link

I vaguely remember something weird about her. So mant media people to keep track of.

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 23:48 (five years ago) link

xp. yes, she also has written a number of "humanizing" pieces about alt-right figures such as cernovich

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 23:59 (five years ago) link

Gotta give her credit, though. All the right-wing psycho soft focus pieces finally paid off. Access, baby! You got it! Go girl pic.twitter.com/iq9Ls6w5Eu

— jf (@BronzeHammer) October 10, 2018

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 11 October 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link

In polling credibility interval and confidence interval are the same thing for anyone other than the person who conducted the poll and their parents who are very proud of what they do.

in practice they’re both pretty much always about sqrt(n)/n where n is the number of participants, which is why you often see 3%, which is sqrt(1000)/1000.

But fwiw i think a credibility calculation is preferred by Bayesians and incorporates uncertainty due to survey design and weighting differently than a confidence interval like hoos said. But like I say pretty much however you do it you get 3% for 1000 participants.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 October 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link

Whoa wtf @ those headlines. She seems way worse than bari weiss from those.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 11 October 2018 00:10 (five years ago) link

So yeah.... bad. Makes sense Trump would try to win her over.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 11 October 2018 00:11 (five years ago) link

Who knows what truth there is in this given the sources but https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/10/trump-tv-ratings-fox-news-891621

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 October 2018 01:36 (five years ago) link

Nuzzi is (or was) an Ann Coulter fangirl.

leave @AnnCoulter alone! except don't because then she won't sell books/will fade into obscurity and i will be sad because i love her

— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) June 26, 2014

jaymc, Thursday, 11 October 2018 01:48 (five years ago) link

that's more embarrassing than offensive

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 11 October 2018 01:49 (five years ago) link

jaymc!

Dan S, Thursday, 11 October 2018 01:53 (five years ago) link

sorry jaymc, you've maybe been posting but I haven't seen your posts in forever

Dan S, Thursday, 11 October 2018 01:56 (five years ago) link

nuzzi.xls

ian, Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:16 (five years ago) link

i don't understand why someone who was an ann coulter fan four short years ago is a white house correspondent for new york magazine

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:20 (five years ago) link

seems dumb and bad

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:20 (five years ago) link

but whatever

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:24 (five years ago) link

it appears that she came to prominence because anthony weiner and his campaign manager were assholes to her? that guy has a lot to answer for

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:25 (five years ago) link

haven’t thought badly of NY Mag before, but between her pieces and the recent articles of Andrew Sullivan, I don’t know…

Dan S, Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link

i guess ostensibly critical, but really quite softball profiles of right wing lunatics are good for rage clicks. you need to be able to create enough plausible deniability to avoid people thinking you really sympathize with them. if she is adept at that then that's a sort of skill

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:30 (five years ago) link

andrew sullivan is a little different. he has been an influential person in american culture for a number of decades and he is a talented polemicist, which is by no means a defense of some of the positions he's taken over the years

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:32 (five years ago) link

i can't think of a defensible reason for a being a coulter fan-anything tbh including spouse boyfriend girlfriend mom dad pet or familiar spirit

Hunt3r, Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:34 (five years ago) link

He hasn't been influential in years except with the Bill Maher crowd.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:35 (five years ago) link

but he was at one point

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:35 (five years ago) link

andrew sullivan is a racist shithead who isn't actually very smart, and no one on earth should have given him a platform in the last 20 years

nuzzi may or may not be a great journalist, but she's hardly on his level of puerility

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:37 (five years ago) link

if she is writing articles that make cernovich and richard spencer seem halfway acceptable that seems analogous to giving a platform to charles murray

but really, there are no winners here

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:39 (five years ago) link

this is an argument about which is the biggest turd in the waterpipe

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:41 (five years ago) link

lol

Dan S, Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:52 (five years ago) link

hi Dan S! i don't post much these days, but i do lurk in a few threads.

jaymc, Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:58 (five years ago) link

well I really hope you will be here in the future, even your posts are infrequent

Dan S, Thursday, 11 October 2018 03:40 (five years ago) link

Here are the papers Donald Trump gave me yesterday, by the way: pic.twitter.com/k57cX5G2LF

— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) October 11, 2018

Seeing all these yuge accomplishments, typed out like a proud 6th grader would, is really something though.

xp wb jaymc!

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 11 October 2018 08:52 (five years ago) link

I enjoyed* the nymag article, I hadn’t previously seen what happens when the White House try an organised charm offensive.

I have been walking for ten minutes since I read it, and have not noticed any elements of goose-stepping entering my stride, if that’s what some of you are concerned about, as it appears some of you are.

*in so far as you can enjoy something that raises the volume on the voice that’s insistently pointing out that Something is Very Wrong. Which is more than none.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 11 October 2018 08:56 (five years ago) link

Ah come on we've all had a boss that only reads the first and last two items in any list, so you stick the text that he dictated to you in the last items and he'll assume that you built smoothly towards it.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 11 October 2018 09:00 (five years ago) link

btw Anthony Weiner is about to get released early for being a model prisoner.

3-1 he runs for something in the next 5 years.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 October 2018 11:27 (five years ago) link

just in time for an October surprise!!

frogbs, Thursday, 11 October 2018 11:42 (five years ago) link

good mourning!!

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 October 2018 12:10 (five years ago) link


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