2019 Rock N Roll HOF Nominees

I don't think they took things very seriously till the 70 though.

60s issues of NME are remarkably dire

Faith No More would definitely be a better choice than RATM.

Faith No More is never a better choice than anything. Faith No More are a garbage band for pseuds.

ooh that's me

The punchline is that RHCP is already in, you guys

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Come on, who wouldn’t want to hear a cleverly updated We Care A Lot for today’s world of #metoo and alt-right?

I'm not a huge fan or anything but credit where credit is due for putting out something as strange and abrasive as Angel Dust at the height of their fame, that is a really weird record

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The punchline is that RHCP is already in, you guys

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they had 18 years of extreme popularity, there was no chance they would miss out.

RHCP has a much better claim to the RR HOF than the Journeys of the world.

Re: The Cure — there are very few “cool”/alternative bands from the ‘80s in the hall, and I don’t think any from Britain other than the Police (if they can be considered “cool”) and Clash? No Smiths, etc.

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Are Depeche Mode in yet? They seem inevitable.

No they are not

I'm tellin ya, there are no "cool" bands from the '80s other than a handful of New Wavers/CBGBers/'70s holdovers (Ramones, Clash, Talking Heads, Blondie, Cars); a few U.S./Brit hybrid bands (Police, Pretenders); R.E.M.; and RHCP.

Oh and U2, I guess (if they're "cool")

c'mon guys, we all know there was no rock and roll in the 80s. It was the end of the innocence, after all.

Pet Shop Boys deserve to be in more than anyone.

Also John Peel

Pet Shop Boys deserve to be in more than anyone.

― Mr. Snrub,

Are there openly gay HOFers?

https://www.rockhall.com/inductees/elton-john

Elton?

oh, jinx

https://www.rockhall.com/inductees/queen (if FM counts as "openly gay," maybe he doesn't)

Roxy all the way. Never made a bad record; gave us Chic and tonnes of punk / post-punk bands; also counts as a vote for Eno.

Kraftwerk, I love them and they are more objectively influential but they never made anything as heartstoppingly perfect as Mother of Pearl or If There Is Something - in my opinion anyway.

The Cure should have stopped years ago and haven't made a record in ten years the lazy fuckers. What's theur excuse? Robert Smith is at leadt technically alive. The "Bob pissed in his kitchen playing with Cubase on a laptop" affair that was Mixed Up II doesn't count.

Excuse poor spelling i am using a phone and being from the North of England my fingers are not particularly dextrous.

ILX knows what I think of Roxy, but they didn't give us Chic. Chic borrowed presentational concepts.

Lol, your argument for Roxy sealed the deal imo! (also a vote for Chic and Eno).

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And one of those presentational concepts (probably more than one tbf) was Roxy Music's

God, I can't believe Zappa's in the HoF. He sort of breaks all the usual induction rules, right? A pure cult figure, not a big unit-mover or stadium-filler. He's not even really a "critical favorite"!

The Cure will never be voted in in my lifetime, they are far to weird. I do give the hall props for actually nominating them after all these years.

First time they have appeared

The little write-ups of each inductee on the RRHOF website are the absolute worst:

NOT EVERYONE BOUGHT THEIR ALBUM, BUT EVERYONE WHO DID STARTED A BAND.

The Velvet Underground was literary but down to earth, schooled in both highbrow culture and the streets. They wrote about life as they saw it — drugs and all — but they saw the beauty in bleakness.

Drugs and all, you guys!

"the streets"

can we discuss those dashes

"I do give the hall props for"

Is "the hall" really deserving of props? Has it done not more bad than good, by simply existing?

^No, b/c it provided the occasion for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-50pwpfmJfA

Lol @ the idea that it is genuinely surprising that the RRHOF, whose founders include Ertegun and Wenner, has not yet inducted the Cure or Depeche Mode.

Ugh, why is their site alphabetized by first name?

Wait until you get to the "The"s!

That Velvets performance is so goddamn poignant. I don't care that it's a dandelion puff of a song. Their grief bound them together.

I tell myself I don't care about the rnrhof but I can't help but pull for some of my favorite bands. None of my favorite bands are nominated this year though, where are Depeche Mode and Sonic Youth?

Anyway, out of these I feel like Def Leppard and rage against the machine should be in mostly because I feel like they both did their specific thing much better that their contemporaries.

oh and Roxy Music which seems like a ridiculous omission (so far) even going by the weird standards of the hof

Not really. They were non-existent as commercial presences in the States.

Tbf Avalon went platinum in the US, and Country Life, Siren, and Manifesto made the top 40. They certainly had a different profile in the States compared to Europe though.

The thing is, it seems when Brits think of Roxy Music it's their first three albums that come to mind, all of which were duds in the US

No, I'm aware of their commercial performances in the States, and the rate at which Avalon got certified adduces the way it gradually sold and sold through the 1980s; but their American airplay during the 1970s consists of hot spots: Detroit, Boston, Philadelphia. They had no national presence at all. Ferry also lacked Bowie's interest in courting hostile American press but getting headlines anyway and Bowie's protean instincts.

i say we should get it over with and induct every musical act in history into the rock and roll hall of fame

You have a lot of faith in the Cleveland hospitality industry to absorb all those visitors for the induction ceremony.