US Politics, October 2018: next week will be even longer

we also can't prove you are not parodying Dem idiots, honey

good act if you are, btw

the argument is always that those weren't Clinton (or Gore, or whoever)'s votes to lose. It neatly elides the fact that Stein voters a) assumed the outcome of the election did not actually matter (hence the vote for a candidate they knew had no chance of winning) and b) never seriously considered whether their interests aligned more with Clinton's than with Trump's (usually because they are viewed as "interchangeable" or some such other demonstrably untrue nonsense)

It's a hard lesson to learn, but voting is not an expression of one's personal ethics. It has always been, and will always be, a strategic expression of public will to advance specific interests.

but yeah I'm p tired of re-re-re-re-relitigating this argument

I resisted this conclusion myself for a long time, but at the federal level, the US is a two-party system. As disappointing/evil as the Dems are, pretending otherwise is pointless and then it's pretty hard to argue with Shakey's b) there

My prez vote, like Susan Sarandon's, will be utterly meaningless again in 2020. i think there's at least a 40% chance I will vote for the Dem candidate.

you could move to Iowa!

morbs which potential 2020 Dem candidates would you definitely not vote for under any circumstances

stein voters - the group of dedicated nihilists and/or people who don't understand math - probably mattered less than stein adding fuel to the 'it doesn't matter, of course clinton will win' narrative. and it's not like she was the only thing fueling that.

also as much as I like to rag on the green party, if we are to assume there's always gonna be some small 3rd party drag on the election, stein probably 'helped' in that she was a fairly terrible candidate and even bernie bros never got stein-hyped.

voting is good again baby

crüt, we can start with Biden and Bloomberg

(both of whom i think wd handily win NY over Trump,; also they won't be nominated)

I thought Bloomberg was an "independent"?

he sez he will run as a Democrat if he does

ugh such a fucking clown

why can't someone beat it into his thick skull that he would never win a single vote outside of NY

could carry Miami Beach

I would not even assume he would the win ny state primary, given the expected field

could carry Miami Beach

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius

bad for his back at his age

morbz good luck in iowa, there's a kinda fun pizza place in downtown des moines called fong's pizza

I spent one night in Davenport for minor league baseball, i do not expect to return

shit cuz one night in a davenport will make a hard man humble

heh

one of my all time most frustrating conversations was with a stein supporter living in florida who set up a phone call with me specifically to hear my most sincere "please for the love of god you live in florida vote strategically" pitch

nice knowing you

New: At WH, President Trump expresses suspicion about UN climate report: “It was given to me. And I want to look at who drew it. You know, which group drew it. I can give you reports that are fabulous and I can give you reports that aren't so good.”

— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) October 9, 2018

¿?

*fabulous* global warming reports, yeah right buddy...

Request for removal made btw.

I got an A on my Global Warming final yo

Just a lil bit of racism, let's be cool

https://splinternews.com/florida-gubernatorial-candidate-ron-desantis-wrote-the-1829632526?utm_campaign=socialflow_splinter_facebook&utm_source=splinter_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

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Splinter is not a good site guys

the writing is terrible and the journalism/research is next to non-existent

don't love Pelosi enough

You don't need Splinter when one of our local boys read DeSantis' book:

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/floridas-ron-desantis-wrote-book-excusing-slavery-10809091

Florida gubernatorial candidate Ron DeSantis' 2011 tome, Dreams From Our Founding Fathers, is terrible. It's a book-long screed from the then-Tea Party candidate, in which DeSantis screams at President Barack Obama for 286 pages, implies he is a closet Marxist, and at one point writes that Obama has "Muslim roots." The book sucks because it is an absolute slog. New Times combed through huge portions of DeSantis' repetitive, banal, witless, and crushingly pedestrian prose, and the project reads like a book report from a dying Confederate soldier trying to get a community college poli-sci degree.

How the F is he having another rally?

sta-mi-na

is that linklater spot playing on tv?

How the F is he having another rally?

I think this is the second of five this week

They mean that people and TV cameras look at him, which is the only thing in the entire world that he actually cares about

...and right now he has the excuse that's helping GOP candidates in the midterms (remember his whole "throw the son of bitch out" thing with the NFL happened at a Luther Strange event).

reason]? well i never

https://reason.com/blog/2018/10/08/trump-finances-subsidies-tax-fraud

good mourning!

these rallies will be helpful to the GOP because what the Trump base wants is to see more clips of Trump talking shit. that's what gets them to show up at the polls.

Not necessarily. We'll find out in less than four weeks.

yeah, i mean having to listen to this bloviating moron constantly will likely work just as hard in the opposite direction

I ask only that he use these rallies to heartily endorse as many GOP candidates as possible, by name, explicitly and repeatedly, preferably coupled with unfounded slander against their opponents. This has been a winning strategy which he absolutely should sustain.

Dems could honestly learn a thing or two from Trump about campaigning. I wish more politicians from our side weren't afraid to call out the other side as being truly dangerous and destructive to civilization. Trump at least is good at whipping his minions into a frenzy about the looming socialist menace that is the Democrat party. obviously Fox News has been doing it too for years.

You'd think the party that believed in institutions would show less fear about denouncing the charlatans and grifters destroying those institutions.

you're the one that's crazy, institutions...