US Politics, October 2018: next week will be even longer

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I do not find that kind of non-reportage "analysis" helpful

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Οὖτις, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link

I mean, fine

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link

I think the endless cynicism or the sense that trump is invincible is just another kind of fallacy

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

he's gonna burn in hell and I'm gonna piss on his grave

so there's that

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

it doesn't matter for him but other people are less bulletproof. Kavanaugh is on the supreme court but he will always be famous mostly as a sexual assailant and liar.

― Trϵϵship, Tuesday, October 9, 2018 7:52 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No he won't. This is willfully naive. He will be famous mostly for having a deciding vote in overturning Roe vs Wade, or being part of the SC blocking dems legislation. For decades to come. Heck, the US senate nor an FBI 'investigation' stopped him from being where he is, so he must deserve to be there, right? He's considered a victim of slanderous feminazi allegations, "revenge on the Clinton's behalf". His legacy will be perfectly fine. AT most a dozen of people will fight in the trenches of Wikipedia over his 'sexual assault' chapter, shoving it under 'personal life' first, and erasing it all together not long after.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

either that or the GOP will need to consolidate power permanently and ruthlessly to stave off any kind of reckoning, which.. maybe.

this is already ongoing though, it's not like they're just gonna wake up one day and give a supervillain speech in front of the country

ciderpress, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

This is all assuming groundswell movements like metoo, coming from the young, won’t have any kind of enduring impact on the culture

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

Xp

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link

Yes, I am assuming they will have no impact whatsoever. The groundswell movements in the USA in my life haven't had an enduring impact on USA culture, so..

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link

Also i never said anything about a supervillain speech. I was obviously saying *if* the republicans’ anti-democratic manipulations continue to pay off for decades and decades in a world where their politics continue getting more radical and unpalatable to the majority. Something is going to break

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link

if/when this admin finally starts tanking, you're gonna be associated with it for life.

Worked out nicely for the Dubya crowd (incl Kavanaugh). Thanks, Obama.

Really, thx, Obama.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link

Well the civil rights movement had an impact

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link

what's happening here

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link

i don't see what any of the supreme court stuff is if not the ruthless consolidation of long term power

ciderpress, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link

Feminism more broadly has, even though the work is ongoing. The gay rights movement has been an incredible thing to witness. Again, the work isn’t done, but gay marriage is the law of the land and anti-gay bigotry is considered unacceptable in many places throughout the country. That’s a change

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link

can you stop

sleeve, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link

what's happening here

― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, October 9, 2018 1:15 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It was explained rather succinctly by last month's thread title but it certainly still applies to this one and likely those that follow.

Werther Down the Spiral (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link

can you stop

yeah this is stupid

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

The groundswell movements in the USA in my life haven't had an enduring impact on USA culture

I mean c'mon this is ridiculous

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

(It's difficult to translate into text the alternating bouts of wild laughter and hysterical sobbing which accompany the fingers' journey across the keyboard, do u see.)

Werther Down the Spiral (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

are you not even self-aware enough to realize that predictions you made just in this thread have already been shown to be completely wrong

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link

who, me?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

I think he meant me

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link

I was saying kavanaugh could never be confirmed after all the perjury

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link

it's ok, most of us done it, too. "THIS is the moment that america turns against trump", etc, after one of the dozens of times it should have been obvious to anyone that he should be thrown out of office ASAP

1-800-CALL-ATT (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

You were saying Kavanaugh will be forever stained because of the allegations of sexual abuse against him. He will not, trust me. xp

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

Concentrate on November, people.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link

We're in a pretty crazy moment of accelerationism. I thought for sure I was gonna go as Toad for Halloween but no one's gonna get the reference because it felt like it was 20 years ago by now. At this point it's worthless to speculate on what Kavanaugh is gonna do for midterm results because there's still a month to go. Isn't Mueller's report due any day now?

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link

I thought it had been suggested that the date given for sentencing of Flynn would be one of the last things in the investigation and since that has already been inked in it might mean the case would be complete by that date. It's mid December isn't it?

Stevolende, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link

Has anyone suggested that he just be referred to as "Rapist judge Kavanaugh" forever? Surely this is doable?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link

I think you should all best remember that rumors that Mueller's wrapping up his investigation best suit people for whom it would be really helpful if in fact he did so.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:57 (five years ago) link

Ummm…. do you think Ivanka might have got a new job? (All of those new follows yesterday.) pic.twitter.com/DdtQDWFOOG

— James O'Malley (@Psythor) October 9, 2018

petey v, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link

at this point I would maybe prefer Mueller's report didn't come out until after the midterms. I mean, if you thought Kavanaugh amped up the right-wing persecution machine...

evol j, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link

jared is going to be the UN guy so they can move back to new york

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link

Does the UN get to reject potential representatives?

Stevolende, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

"Jared is such a hidden genius that no one understands. To redo the NAFTA deal the way he did. What I’ve done working with him on the Middle East peace plan ... it is so unbelievably well-done."

- nikki haley, understandable, tangible genius

1-800-CALL-ATT (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link

holy christ I never thought she was much of an intellect but she sounds exactly like trump.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link

haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRYYqEgT9uI

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link

cmon..........ted is gold

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link

Linklater delivers

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:48 (five years ago) link

Knowing the kind of film nerd Linklater is, the "Ted" thing probably is a tribute to the actor's "Brad" here..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWHHQ3Rz534

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link

I'm all of arguments with people on my FB feed who attack Dems for attacking the Green Party for throwing the election to Donald Trump. Someone give me a couple lines.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 20:06 (five years ago) link

Green Party nominated a moron (Jill Stein) that the Russians used like a stooge - and look what it got us

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link

very original

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link

it was literally some fifth column shit

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link

We made it one week without re-litigating 2016.

DJI, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

You have to vote for a lizard or the wrong lizard might get in.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

supporting the green party mostly makes sense if you believe the results of elections have no meaningful consequences and we're living through a pretty good example of that not being true

iatee, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

people who hated HRC enough to vote for Jill Stein were never gonna vote for Clinton even if libbots got their wish and all minor-party candidates were banned from the ballot

hell, can you prove Trump didn't vote for Stein

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link

it was literally some fifth column shit

Tail Gunner Shakey McCarthy 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 20:18 (five years ago) link


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