Anyway, speaking of Marty, new album in two weeks:
https://soundcloud.com/noctorummusic/a-girl-with-no-love-the-afterlife-single-release-2018/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 October 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link
gotta say i am not into that song :-/oh well. marty's taste has always seemed kind of questionable
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 8 October 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link
Jesus, a song about the virtues of a sex doll. I had thought MWP's solo work cringeworthy at times but he's going all out here.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 8 October 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link
I felt the same disappointment with the Blade Runner sequel. So many potential themes, and... nope, we're gonna do hologram girlfriend and prostitutes.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 8 October 2018 20:35 (five years ago) link
his imagination has always seemed limited compared to Steve Kilbey's
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 8 October 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link
Been listening to my Remote Luxury CD today driving around running errands, it's so good... they've really established their own sound on these two EPS. I love MWP's "Volumes" so much, especially the chorus:
they have pagesthey take agesto read and to learnthey're heavy to carryand easy to burnvolumes have secretstake them on holidaybook them a roomsave them a momentswallow their swoon
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 20 January 2019 06:12 (five years ago) link
I didn't post on the right thread but last night came across a Rykodisc pressing of Peter Koppes - Manchild & Myth (on clear CQV "CD Quality Vinyl" Ryko's then buzzword) and damn what a great record, some missing link between Church, Durutti Column and 90s shoegaze
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 20 January 2019 12:26 (five years ago) link
The night is a liarOverthrow the tyrant
Wow, still great in 2017! Just catching up. Man Woman Life Death Infinity is like vintage Church.
― Fake Sam's Club (I M Losted), Monday, 21 January 2019 15:51 (five years ago) link
Have you listened to Further/Deeper? Absolutely brilliant - to my mind, the equal of any of their earlier peaks.
― Vast Halo, Monday, 21 January 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link
Wow, Manchild & Myth is wonderful
― Mule, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 13:26 (five years ago) link
their last three albums are as good as anything they've ever recorded, definitely better than the 2000-2008 era stuff (which I like too!)
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:02 (five years ago) link
― Mule, Tuesday, January 22, 2019 7:26 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i'm surprised i'd never heard of it, songs production everything is so gorgeous...early Ryko stuff is pretty much a guaranteed buy for me because it comes around so rarely and they were a weird label then
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:16 (five years ago) link
Never heard of it myself, so thanks for digging it up. Really like that warm, drugged out feel. It’s sort of dated in the production, channeling (as you point out, I’d add baggy though) lots of stuff going on at the time, but still sounds kinda timeless nontheless. Been playing it alot off of YouTube last couple of days
― Mule, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 20:02 (five years ago) link
Coming back in April and May: http://www.brooklynvegan.com/the-church-announce-more-starfish-tour-dates/
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 24 January 2019 00:38 (five years ago) link
Kinda like how they're looping around the Bay Area this time to play smaller shows in various spots.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 January 2019 00:47 (five years ago) link
I kinda hit burnout after seeing SK solo at a backyard show right here in Sierra Madre last April but I'm tempted to go to that Pappy & Harriets show. The band sounds tremendous.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 24 January 2019 00:51 (five years ago) link
Kilbey's Sydney Rococo is worth a listen, with some fine tracks like the below. Also, the Kilbey / Kennedy albums are worth pursuing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kI7C6zCnGQ
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 24 January 2019 03:51 (five years ago) link
Also, the Kilbey / Kennedy albums are worth pursuing.
Seconding/thirding these. SK's songwriting caught a third/fourth wind when he had this outlet to work on. Check 'em out: https://kilbeykennedy.bandcamp.com
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 24 January 2019 05:15 (five years ago) link
Couple of days ago:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RuJK6XVHMY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCQ_hi47x3g
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 24 January 2019 05:16 (five years ago) link
But that appears to be the final bow for Pete:https://m.facebook.com/?_rdr#!/story.php?story_fbid=10156557066421046&id=20594731045&ref=m_notif¬if_t=feedback_reaction_generic
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 February 2020 03:50 (four years ago) link
Surprised and unsurprised that SK would continue on with none of the other originals. Altho of course Powles is a way more durable member than Ploog was.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 1 February 2020 06:07 (four years ago) link
Yeah, if Powles wasn't still there I'd be looking at all this really askance. Though I do know Jeffrey Cain, and he's a good sort.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 February 2020 06:45 (four years ago) link
What's at Ned's link?
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Saturday, 1 February 2020 10:04 (four years ago) link
Richard wasn't a founding member! Nick Ward was the drummer on Of Skins and Heart.
A statement from SK to the effect that Peter is done with The Church. (Presumably for good this time.) This... does not bode well, I would think. They rebounded after MWP's estrangement to make a superb album that retained all the qualities that I most love in The Church, but losing PK too means that they're inevitably going to become a different musical proposition. This isn't a "me and yer granny on bongos" situation.
― Vast Halo, Saturday, 1 February 2020 20:35 (four years ago) link
Really glad I saw em in Ithaca when they came through last year. I was amazed at how great a show it was. They played forever and the crowd was with them the whole way. Sorry to see Koppes go. He was the backbone of the band no doubt.
― stop torturing me ethel (broom air), Saturday, 1 February 2020 21:02 (four years ago) link
Well, of course there was that period in the 90s when it was just Steve and Marty. And a slap on the wrist for me forgetting Nick Ward. I guess my main reservation is that altho the Church were always a benign dictatorship, SK has increasingly leaned into the role of rock legend / elder statesman in the last decade. The self aggrandising statements feel a little less ironic these days.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 1 February 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link
(Presumably for good this time.)
Ah, as long as the band exists, I wouldn't rule out anyone returning, given the fluctuations of the '90s.
I see Ash Naylor is being brought in to replace him though - seems Kilbey has a project to incorporate all the flattest-haired Australian guitarists of those '90s as positions become available.
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Saturday, 1 February 2020 22:08 (four years ago) link
I just did a search for him on Google Image Search and indeed, he would fit in nicely on the ILM "swagger of Oasis" thread.
― Vast Halo, Saturday, 1 February 2020 22:47 (four years ago) link
as long as the band exists
Even more likely: a farewell or retirement-fund tour with MWP and Koppes at some point while everyone's still healthy
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Saturday, 1 February 2020 23:02 (four years ago) link
Naylor is a great player and super low key in a similar vein to Koppes, I must admit
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 2 February 2020 02:13 (four years ago) link
Steve just posted something now re some of the comments of the past few days:
https://www.facebook.com/thechurchband/photos/a.10151876536906046/10156570000881046/
People questioning my integrity and my right to call my band the church should bear in mind that I wrote approx 90 per cent of all guitar parts on first 4 albums other than the actual solos. Seance is virtually a solo album as far as the writing of it. I have never been merely the bass player.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 February 2020 04:43 (four years ago) link
It's a shame both that artists being so close to pissy audience comments these days make him feel he needs to make any response, and also that he went for such a petty, reaching defence. This is throwing the last 20+ albums & mini-albums under the bus, and also the contributions of the recent and future guitarists. Presumably not his intention!
He's never hesitated to use other names for other music. Bummer if there's actual acrimony, not just fed-up-ness, with Koppes, but it's not hard to trust that future music with Kilbey's main Church collaborator of the last 25 years and a lead guitarist who's been in the band for six years will be Church-ish.
― MOAR PETE (sic), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:04 (four years ago) link
I'd guess that calling an album a Church album instantly means more sales and the ability to plan a tour with larger venues, and have a shot at actually making some money, regardless of who plays on it or what it sounds like.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link
i looked up MWP after the last revive and wondered if anyone has seen his new act w his new wife? i thought she was his daughter until i read a little more about the project :-/
i wish steve kilbey would do another album in the earthed/unearthed style, maybe re-earthed? de-earthed?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link
should we pitch in and buy LL a one-hour Skype guitar lesson with MWP for £35
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link
lololol irl lols heremaybe i will do it over the summer. i'm sure someone would let me borrow their guitar. he can teach me the basics as i know nothing about playing guitar :)
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link
i didn't realize he was still at it!
maybe you could give him a one-hour drumming lesson?
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:58 (four years ago) link
No I would prefer to learn guitar. I teach for a living, I’m not paying him to get a drum lesson! :)
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 6 February 2020 22:12 (four years ago) link
A few of the Kilbey-Kennedy albums might fit here? They're all pretty good.
Reading between all the lines, I had a feeling Peter was going to split after the last tour.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 8 February 2020 01:27 (four years ago) link
I would happily pay £35 to hear about LL's impressions of Skype-MWP!
― Vast Halo, Saturday, 8 February 2020 01:43 (four years ago) link
MWP has a new band too - Atlantæum Flood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b06eo3BGIU
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 10 February 2020 08:56 (four years ago) link
Sounds kinda like a Greg Dulli b-side on mogadon.
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:04 (four years ago) link
Livestream moment of the week - Kilbey and George Ellis play "Aura"
https://youtu.be/87E7Zxs6pww?t=3180
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 14 May 2020 00:54 (three years ago) link
Someone told me that Steve Kilbey's at home concerts these past few weeks have been a joy.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 June 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVUE6KbEBTs
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 12:03 (three years ago) link
Good interview with Peter here - gets into his final days with the band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juVh2xtX67A
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 22 January 2021 06:37 (three years ago) link
Great find, ET, thank you
― Soz (Not Soz) (Vast Halo), Friday, 22 January 2021 09:18 (three years ago) link
best kilbey work in many a year imo https://kilbeykennedy.bandcamp.com/album/jupiter-13
― don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Saturday, 12 June 2021 13:54 (two years ago) link
Sounds good!
God, his solo catalog is massive. Could go for a guide or best-of or playlist.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 12 June 2021 15:01 (two years ago) link