US Politics, October 2018: next week will be even longer

alternative spin is "histrionic media bullying, unsubstantiated last-minute accusations, Feinsteins opportunism, advantage taken of vulnerable mistaken woman (or democrat plant - depending on how far right you want to go), a circus cooked up to protect Roe Vs Wade).

Sure she believes what she's saying, why wouldn't she? and...credibility with who? She'll have done her maths, same as Murkowski and Manchin did

I mean I take it that what I would see as cognitive dissonance, cannot be seen as actually coherent from a different perspective that is itself coherent, can it? Particularly when coupled with the statement about a silver lining of more assault victims coming forward, which i think might be enough of a signal why not to go that way.

Hope The FBI are feeling a stigma connected to this so called investigation that itself questions their credibility.

yes i'm sure being asked to gin up a report to prop up the establishment has shaken the federal bureau of investigation to its very core

But surely Truth , Justice and the American way are central tenets of everybody in the political sphere.
& one can rely on the establishment institutions for honesty.
especially with such an honest leader showing everybody the way, settting the tone for teh zeitgeist etc.
Well one can always dream.

how can u ppl listen to these folks who badly need sh**ting?

But surely Truth , Justice and the American way are central tenets of everybody in the political sphere..

But surely Truth , Justice and the American way are central tenets of everybody in the political sphere..

Cash, carry and an iron clad non-disclosure agreement.

Mike Huckabee plays the cranky old dude rock critic card:

So @taylorswift13 has every right to be political but it won’t impact election unless we allow 13 yr old girls to vote. Still with #MarshaBlackburn

— Gov. Mike Huckabee (@GovMikeHuckabee) October 8, 2018

good mourning!

dunno if making fun of teenagers is a good move for the GOP at this point in time

They figure, somewhat correctly, that the young won't vote.

also they're sexist. please don't forget that.

also taylor swift turns 29 next month, so...

Trump now says Ford allegations completely made up

yes, declared it a hoax, which, trust me, will be the wording picked up the the right and pounded out over and over forever.

The norms are gone. Dead. Not revivable. They were all a cover for elite bipartisan consensus. Now that they’re out of the way, time for some serious class war. https://t.co/29rAPYJcgM

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) October 7, 2018

Ornstein and Kasie Hunt had a pricky little exchange there (Charles Pierce cameo!). Ornstein otm.

Does Collins believe what she's saying? & do others believe her too still.

Collins is saying what she believes... will cover her arse with the most people. As for "others" believing her, they exist, either because they are not invested in politics and merely float weightlessly its surface, or they are heavily invested in the outcome of vote and therefore believe her through sheer will.

Ornstein way otm and the alter/altar typo clangs off the rim so loud that i'm "sorry you can never win on this string now."

Who cares what any of these people "believe"

well, Obama's assorted beliefs that he never acted on are what made him Our President

but yeah trying to understand the mind of Susan Collins has to be among the most pointless tasks undertaken since we crawled from the sea

Crawl Back Into The Sea 2020

"truth is not always balance", da fuq? Oh we must let some people tell their made up story some of the time, LET THEM HAVE THEIR SAYYY *rabid incoherent frothing*

i'm really at a blissful "i dont give a fuck anymore" attitude atm after all the shit that has happened the last few weeks.

Who cares what any of these people "believe"

― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, October 8, 2018 8:05 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it does not matter what they believe because if there was filmed evidence found in BK's possession it would be called consensual sex. if she stepped forward the next day it would be called a lie anyway. the revelation she made in 2012 when BK was the nobody he should have remained is just faked, who cares if all evidence says it's real. lib tears for breakfast.

It matters, a little. I can't think of Clarence Thomas without thinking of pubic hairs on soda cans, long before I think of him as justice whose written the fewest opinions since his nomination.

The not unsurprising revelation that Kavanaugh was a misogynist frat boy, and remains an authoritarian partisan, will follow him to his grave. He's just another Thomas, a wasted opportunity.

a wasted opportunity

Opportunity for whom? Wasted by whom?

I would parse that as a wasted opportunity to appoint a distinguished jurist, like a Thurgood Marshall or a Brandeis rather than a partisan hack.

There are smarter and more dignified characters on the Federalist Society rosters.

AFAICT, the main reasons Kavanaugh was selected where his opinions on US v. Nixon, that would protect Trump from indictment, and his opinion that the EPA doesn't have the authority to regulate greenhouse emissions.

His nomination means hundreds of billions for carbon emitters, and tens of millions in political contributions for those who ratified his nomination. However, he's just an outlier, like Thomas, and will never persuade any moderate justice to his positions over his presumably long future career, and like Thomas will be vilified by future generations who will be broiling and starving due to the likes of him. It's a own goal against conservatism, in the long run.

I’m starting to wonder what kind of time we’re talking about when we refer to the long run.

I think the GOP can, at this point (and much earlier than this point), safely be labeled the party of no moral center. Any argument to the contrary by a republican is belied by their continued affiliation to the party which lied and cheated and dispensed with basic civility in pursuit of a stated goal which, itself, is incoherent and hollow (please square for me, as just one narrow example, how a party can be both pro-life and not vehemently anti-DeVos).

(Or vehemently against bequeathing an utterly fucked planet to the children whose lives you so deeply cherish.)

XPS

https://e.snmc.io/i/300/w/908732c7f2651ce62a87312c64565249/3658867

When I think of the long run, its historians sifting through the ashes, Pete Postlethwaite in The Age of Stupid style. After the collapse, conservatism will be utterly discredited, at least until the next yuga.

bequeathing an utterly fucked planet to the children whose lives you so deeply cherish

on the whole, the wealthy and privileged place their trust in the ability of money to save them from most unpleasantness. he'll no doubt make certain to bequeath those kids a prep school education, social connections, and several millions in 2018 dollars, thereby fulfilling his major duty to them as he sees it.

I always assume that the self-soothing inner monologue, if any is even necessary, is along the lines of ‘my descendants tremendous wealth will enable them to buy private armies/envirodomes/orbital condos/one of the precious few flasks of antimutation serum” etc

what will their descendants watch on TV when only rich people are left? there won't be song and dance people or gladiators in those future days

jake paul reruns

There are smarter and more dignified characters on the Federalist Society rosters.

AFAICT, the main reasons Kavanaugh was selected where his opinions on US v. Nixon, that would protect Trump from indictment, and his opinion that the EPA doesn't have the authority to regulate greenhouse emissions.

His nomination means hundreds of billions for carbon emitters, and tens of millions in political contributions for those who ratified his nomination. However, he's just an outlier, like Thomas, and will never persuade any moderate justice to his positions over his presumably long future career, and like Thomas will be vilified by future generations who will be broiling and starving due to the likes of him. It's a own goal against conservatism, in the long run.

― godless hippie skank (Sanpaku), Monday, October 8, 2018 4:56 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fuck every motherfucker in the federalist society. None of them are "dignified."

So the supreme court can now undo any action on climate change if by some miracle the us gets its act together in 2020

Also re rich ppl being able to buy security in a broken world... that is nonsense. Money only means something in a world with a functional economy.

Treeship, refreshed after a long nap.

Agree that anyone who thinks they will be able to adequately prepare themselves for a severe climate crisis is probably delusional. No one knows how that shit will play out.

the Supreme Court’s authority is not necessarily supreme, despite the name. Anyway, the right thing to do is pack the court, preferably with women, preferably with people who went to other schools.

PR / DC statehood. four more sane senators to kick against the pricks

So, Princeton. xp

he Supreme Court’s authority is not necessarily supreme, despite the name. Anyway, the right thing to do is pack the court, preferably with women, preferably with people who went to other schools.

― El Tomboto, Monday, October 8, 2018 11:16 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

do they even need to go to law school? can't we just get a rich guy to do it?

does not have to be a jurist

put me and Tombot on