US Politics, October 2018: next week will be even longer

transformational isn't everything

it's all we have time for

well I guess I can't argue with that

I do feel like time is running out

dan_theman I think this message board is a safe place to post, it's anonymous if you want to be anonymous

ilx is safe enough, if all you want to do is post and be anonymous while doing so. But if you think you'll get any respect for "shooting the shit", you will find that such respect is not forthcoming. On the contrary.

This message board is filled with well-informed, smart, tasteful people. Most of whom are also abrasive jerks. I’ve been here for years and I rarely post.

take a hint already why doncha

fuck man actual convo with sister in law:

(kavanagh gets confirmed)

her: this happened fifty years ago, get over it.

me: so what if that happened to one of your kids?

bro: so why did she come forward now? it's cuz he has money..

dad (who hates trump): well, trudeau's worse

me: i'm in bad company here, this is not going to go anywhere.

kill me now

Happy Thanksgiving

DNC and GOP are the same party. No difference between the two, which is verifiable through hard facts.

The people who tell you otherwise, like Alfred, etc., here, are people who don't understand the gun that's to the back of their necks and don't appreciate the trigger that's going to be pulled on them.

I'm the guy with the finger on the trigger to people like Alfred Soto whatever, so what the hell do I care. Blammo.

wow, nailed it

I just find it funny morons like Alfred and El_tomboto support people who want to kill them. Morons.

i miss the days when i didn't recognize sockpuppets on impact

You dudes don't want to hear the truth, because it makes you poop your pants, when you see actual facts confirm it over and over again. I'm disappearing into the shadows where I belong. Seeyah.

it's not that we don't want to hear the truth, it's because we're afraid of it. because it's too close to what we love. whoa

b-b-b-but dan_theman promised he wasn't trolling!

Cool. Yeah, this is so dumb and trolly, but the whole “GOP and DEMS are just two puppets held up by the same man, maaaan” shit is still something I get from some hard left acquaintances and it’s so fucking useless considering the immediate reality of what’s happening right now and what options we have.

* disappearing like Marty McFly * the only winning move is not to playyyy...

*shits*

*fills biff's car with velko's shit*

really cool to hear from a poster with "the man" as part of his handle that as a gay Hispanic man I don't "understand the gun that's to the back" of my neck and doesn't appreciate "the the trigger that's going to be pulled" on me.

I'm a drunk crazy weirdo, ignore everything I'm saying here.

Not like i have to tell ya!

Boy oh boy am I a weirdo with no credibility. All I care about is making a good paycheck. So be it.

thought you were leaving there bud

hmmmm. this dan_theman guy is starting to sound familiar. like another guy who's been banned twice already. or is it three times now?

Yet, everything this banned guy was banned for has come true beyond expectations.

If you're as sharp as you all think you are, why dart and dodge what you know as truth? Just be honest with yourselves and join me.

https://i.imgur.com/CpWzkk5.jpg

it's not about being sharp for me, it's just fucking lame to call people morons. this is hopeless anyway, like a badminton match for one against a fucking wall

that is unfair to badminton against a wall, which is invigorating

Is the consensus now that GOP will retain congress? That they calculated that the Kavanaugh case was a vote winner for them not a vote loser? if so that makes the extra weeks investigation an extra weeks time to get their voters riled up. the 'blue wave' seems a bit uncertain?

i'm really not sure about the overall effect of the kavanaugh confirmation on the midterms. before it happened, it seemed like the democrats were sailing toward taking over the house, and possibly even the senate. in the midst of it, when a delayed vote until after the midterms seemed possible (kavanaugh dropping out and someone else being nominated but voted on until after elections), it seemed like that would really motivate republican voters to show up and alter the presumptions. but now, after kavanaugh has been confirmed, and what's left is a bunch of democratic voters that are fucking pissed? i think we'll need to wait a week or so and see how the momentum shifts.

Agreed, if its shifted a bunch recently it can shift a bunch again. I cant tell if this was part of plan or not, to keep this in news cycle seemed dumb at first, then smart, and now Ive no idea, maybe neither - but I could see the rationale behind it, especially if most of the seats up for re-election are D

the kavanaugh confirmation is more brutal than most democratic voters realize, though. the benefit of gaining a democratic majority is to change/update the laws of the land. the republicans just landed control of the supreme court for the next decade or two, at least. i guess it's rude to talk about when they'll die, but of the conservative jsutices, clarence thomas is the oldest, and he's 70. alito is 68. it's going to be bullshit 5-4's for a very long time. and that means that even if something like medicare for all becomes the law of the land, it could very well be temporary. it's important to vote this november, duh, and it would be helpful to help check the power of literally the dumbest person in the entire world, donald trump, but if left-leaning voters knew how fucked we are, many of them wouldn't bother voting.

Chief Justice John Roberts has received more than a dozen judicial misconduct complaints against SCOTUS nom Brett Kavanaugh but not referred them for investigation. @CarolLeonnig @amarimow @thamburger https://t.co/eEVY30WkRa

— Beth Reinhard (@bethreinhard) October 6, 2018

Starting to look more and more like the SC was the main game and Trump a gaudy wrapper to distract outrage and legitimise brute power politics.

*normalise, rather

Good mourning!

you must be re-hearse-ing for an arsekicking from Alf!

I got yer tax returns right here.

Starting to look more and more like the SC was the main game and Trump a gaudy wrapper to distract outrage and legitimise brute power politics.

― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK),

This was the ball game in October 2016, though.

from this morning's NYT story about the House races:

t might seem strange for Republicans to improve their standing even as Mr. Kavanaugh’s falls. It is even stranger since the Times/Siena polls provide zero evidence — truly, zero — to support the view that Republicans are now likelier to say they intend to vote than they were before the Kavanaugh hearing.

yeah, there is no consensus on what the Kavanaugh confirmation will have on midterms. The immediate effect is that Senate polls have broken in favor of Republicans, however many House polls have actually broken in favor of Democrats since the initial Ford accusations broke.

There are competing theories, some that the Kavanaugh thing will galvanize the GOP base, others that now that he's confirmed, some of the excitement will die down as they won't feel like they have an open SCOTUS seat to worry about....whereas Democrats are furious now that he's officially confirmed.

https://www.cookpolitical.com/index.php/analysis/national/national-politics/how-kavanaugh-could-boost-turnout

In all likelihood we have at least 2 or 3 batshit scandals/controversies to go before midterms, and Kavanaugh will feel like it happened 3 years ago by the election

otm

just sent my vote-by-mail ballot back. fuck the GOP.

getting a wee bit tired of people sharing "DON'T VOTE ABSENTEE" memes though.

it's based on generalized information that isn't true, such as stamps being required (not so in Orange County). also in Florida, due to a judge's ruling in 2016, they have to let you cure a ballot that was not accepted due to mismatched signature, and you can check on the status of your ballot, and go early vote if for some reason it gets lost in the mail.

half my friends basically saying "YR VOTE WON'T COUNT"