Guilty, 2nd degree murder.Guilty of 16 separate counts (one for each shot fired) of aggravated battery with a firearmNot Guilty of official misconduct
― Karl Malone, Friday, 5 October 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link
and not guilty on 1st degree murder
― Karl Malone, Friday, 5 October 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link
weird that we don't have a racism in europe thread so putting this here
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/23/travel/racism-travel-italy-study-abroad.html
― F# A# (∞), Thursday, 25 October 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link
This is a racism thread. It covers racism anywhere. The predominance of US racism as a topic here is merely a byproduct, not a dictate.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 25 October 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link
it's cuz we're so good at it
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 October 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link
youtube is recommending me a video where a young white man with a beard calling himself "the pop song professor" explains the lyrics to "how much a dollar cost"
please try to remember this the next time somebody asks why white people hate themselves
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Sunday, 11 November 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link
I don't get it.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 11 November 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
Also I don't hate myself for being white, I'm not American. Can you please start saying 'why (some) white Americans hate themselves' instead? Thanks.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 11 November 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link
― pomenitul
give it a couple years and perhaps the pop song professor will have a video explaining it
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Sunday, 11 November 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link
I don't get why someone – even, yes, a white dude – explaining that song to people who don't get it is a problem. Not everyone who watches YouTube is American and intimately familiar with your history, for starters.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 11 November 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link
I haven't seen the video so I have no idea if he does it well, though. But the implication that such a thing is simply inconceivable due to his skin colour is frankly absurd.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 11 November 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link
pomenitul have you heard the song
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Sunday, 11 November 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link
I have and I still don't get your point. Why don't you spell it out for me, since I clearly need to have it explained?
― pomenitul, Sunday, 11 November 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link
because i didn't come here for a stupid internet argument
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Sunday, 11 November 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link
i'm sorry i insulted someone who turned out to be your favorite streamer or something
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Sunday, 11 November 2018 18:30 (five years ago) link
Suit yourself. I frankly have no idea what you're talking about at this point and your refusal to accept that only reinforces the notion that, yes, there might be some value in explaining what's going on in that song and in this 'argument' both. There are people out there learning English in part through songs like this one who might be tempted to search for its 'meaning' online, whether on YouTube or elsewhere. I see no harm.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 11 November 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link
I've never watched this guy's videos. For all I know they're complete shit. I just take issue with the argument that his being a white dude with a beard tackling this topic somehow justifies white self-loathing.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 11 November 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link
rushomancy laying down the semiology of beards
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 11 November 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
a really, really sad story, at the intersection of america's problems with guns and racism
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/12/1812296/-Chicago-Man-is-Shot-and-Killed-by-Police-For-Being-a-Hero-Security-Guard-While-Black
Jemel Roberson, 26, was working early Sunday at Manny’s Blue Room ― a bar in the predominantly black Chicago suburb of Robbins, Illinois ― when a patron who was part of a drunken group that had been kicked out returned with a gun at 4 a.m. and opened fire, according to the Chicago Sun-Times. Several people were shot.Roberson, who was armed at the time, grabbed one of the men, held him down and waited for police, according to witnesses.However when the police arrived, one of the officers shot at Roberson, who died later.[A witness] said the officer shot an innocent man and that people on the scene tried to warn police that Roberson was a security guard.“Everybody was screaming out, ‘Security!’ He was a security guard ... and they still did their job, and saw a black man with a gun, and basically killed him,” Harris said.
Roberson, who was armed at the time, grabbed one of the men, held him down and waited for police, according to witnesses.
However when the police arrived, one of the officers shot at Roberson, who died later.
[A witness] said the officer shot an innocent man and that people on the scene tried to warn police that Roberson was a security guard.
“Everybody was screaming out, ‘Security!’ He was a security guard ... and they still did their job, and saw a black man with a gun, and basically killed him,” Harris said.
― Karl Malone, Monday, 12 November 2018 23:44 (five years ago) link
This interview with Wesley Yang is interesting.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 21:05 (five years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/17/us/kansas-official-master-race.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes
But Mark Loughry, the administrator of Leavenworth County, which is just outside Kansas City, said in a statement that Mr. Klemp’s comments were misconstrued and had nothing to do with Nazism.Mr. Loughry said Mr. Klemp had used the term “master race” several times in the past year to refer to people with gaps in their front teeth, and his comment was meant to include both Ms. Penelton and himself.
Mr. Loughry said Mr. Klemp had used the term “master race” several times in the past year to refer to people with gaps in their front teeth, and his comment was meant to include both Ms. Penelton and himself.
― j., Sunday, 18 November 2018 02:31 (five years ago) link
annie olaloku-teriba who wrote the piece on afro-pessimism i linked upthread in may had an interesting interview on the groundings podcast with some particularly interesting stuff on the relationship between afro pessimism, anti blackness and black nationalism
https://groundings.simplecast.fm
― ogmor, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 12:12 (five years ago) link
Dorchester historical society apologizes, says it's horrified by Christmas card it sent out to advertise an upcoming event. pic.twitter.com/144ukLTxj5
I feel like I'm missing something here. I mean, it's obvious they're talking about snow. "Dreaming of a white [fill in the blank]" is an extremely common phrase about hoping it will snow. Why is this so obviously a racist faux pas? Is it because they used "Dorchester" instead of "Christmas"? I guess usually it's Christmas but idk, I still feel like that's a stretch.
― evol j, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
can't believe they misspelled 'genocide' as 'dorchester', that's a real fuckup
― sign up for my waterless urinals webinar (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2018/12/07/unc-teaching-assistants-go-strike-over-confederate-monument
Several dozen teaching assistants at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill started a strike Friday, saying that they will withhold student grades as long as the university moves ahead with the idea of constructing a building to house the Confederate monument known as Silent Sam. The strike comes after classes have finished for the semester and students are preparing for final exams and normally would be soon receiving final grades.
― j., Saturday, 8 December 2018 04:30 (five years ago) link
the comments... god help me i read the comments...
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 8 December 2018 06:23 (five years ago) link
I don't want to start a 2019 race thread just to share this one amazing tweet. Just read it and be amazed.
Here’s my only nativist beef: Hispanic people who look and sound Mongolian and who I therefore don’t realize I could just communicate with in Spanish instead of English which they don’t speak particularly intelligibly. I’m cool with Spanish, just not being super-confused.— Liz Mair (@LizMair) January 2, 2019
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:06 (five years ago) link
oooof.
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:11 (five years ago) link
tbftts i too might try to pass as mongolian if it seemed to make her not communicate with me
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:14 (five years ago) link
I am so confused by this ^^^. Mongolian? I had to look her up. Ok. She's an idiot.
― Yerac, Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:15 (five years ago) link
I'm assuming she's saying "latin american person who looks indigenous" in the most racist way possible
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:27 (five years ago) link
Lol, she made a loooong thread defending that tweet, and complaining that people don't realize how anti-racist she is. She's a never-Trump'er, don't people realize how important an ally she could be?
― Frederik B, Thursday, 3 January 2019 11:09 (five years ago) link
The non-apology thread is breathtaking.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 3 January 2019 12:47 (five years ago) link
That tweet is despicable and depressing. I’m not surprised that kind of language is catching on even among the (vanishingly small) “never trump” right.
― Trϵϵship, Thursday, 3 January 2019 13:33 (five years ago) link
It’s the most dangerous kind of thinking in the world, that dehumanizing shit
― Trϵϵship, Thursday, 3 January 2019 13:34 (five years ago) link
Sorry—i know that was all redundant. There is just something super bleak about racism being couched in this flippant, trendy twitter speak.
― Trϵϵship, Thursday, 3 January 2019 13:42 (five years ago) link
via a former ilxor
https://youtu.be/hcSAp-nBwR8
"What kind of language has then to be found that would not be a re-imprisonment of Black lives? Does it still belong to philosophy? Does it still belong to literature? For sure, this issue requires the opening of a yet unheard space. Afro-Pessimism might be its name. A name born in prison."
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 17 January 2019 10:42 (five years ago) link
this entire Jussie Smollett story is a bummer.
https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/it-looks-like-jussie-smolletts-case-is-headed-to-grand-1832700715
― omar little, Monday, 18 February 2019 19:29 (five years ago) link
what an absurd story
― k3vin k., Monday, 18 February 2019 19:34 (five years ago) link
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/05/us/trump-teacher-fort-worth-anti-immigration-trnd/index.html
I'm putting this here because there isn't a 2019 thread and because I can't get over the fact that this person was a teacher
― Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Thursday, 6 June 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/450757-analysis-black-homebuyers-more-than-twice-as-likely-as-whites
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 June 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link
https://www.rrstar.com/news/20190617/man-arrested-while-attached-to-iv-machine-says-he-was-racially-profiled
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link
It's just
Schroeder said the IV was removed by a professionally-trained FHN employee and that police followed the proper protocol when they realized Dukes was having a medical event.
...WHICH YOU CAUSED BY WITHHOLDING HIS MEDICATION THAT WAS LITERALLY FLOWING INTO HIS VEINS AT THE HOSPITAL'S DIRECTION.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
good news everybodyhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/james-fields-jr-avowed-neo-nazi-in-charlottesville-car-attack-set-to-be-sentenced-for-federal-hate-crimes/2019/06/27/fcead458-9849-11e9-830a-21b9b36b64ad_story.html?utm_term=.7f7ad220c013
― Οὖτις, Friday, 28 June 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link
That is fantastic news
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link
re: dude who was arrested for following doctor's orders, I really want the hospital to weigh in on this
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link
half expected the cops to claim they mistook the IV for a weapon
― Οὖτις, Friday, 28 June 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link
did they think the hospital gown was a disguise?????
― j., Friday, 28 June 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link
They thought they had someone they could brutalize who wouldn't fight back.
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link
"Police urge people not to rush ‘to judgement against the police without all the information..."
Dukes was ultimately charged with disorderly conduct, after an investigation revealed he had no intention of stealing the IV stand, said Freeport police Lt. Andrew Schroeder.
A full investigation revealed that after coming all this way police were able to determine that the suspect who was by the way no angel was clearly guilty of something because otherwise we wouldn't be here now would we? Case closed!
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 28 June 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link
xxp the PM is a pretty mainstream role tbf
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 17 February 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link
also Karl otm
― sarahell, Monday, 17 February 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link
For anybody interested, I highly recommend Angela Saini's book 'Superior' on this very issue.
― rb (soda), Monday, 17 February 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link
that’s where these ideas always end up leading. Why else would there be so much effort at repeatedly reviving and funding them time and time again?
They are not leading there. They have arrived there and are teaching at Harvard, publishing in the NYT, and advising the British PM. How do you think we should respond?
― With considerable charm, you still have made a choice (Sund4r), Monday, 17 February 2020 22:07 (four years ago) link
I’ve already said upthread and you seem determined that that’s not a good enough answer.
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 17 February 2020 22:09 (four years ago) link
Admittedly, I'm somewhat heated and posting quickly but, no, it wasn't obvious to me. The main thing I was getting from your posts was that rational scientific arguments and education won't work and play into the hands of racists. Did you mean that your favoured response is to ignore these people, avoid giving platforms where we can, and continuing to stress the moral wrong of racism?
― With considerable charm, you still have made a choice (Sund4r), Monday, 17 February 2020 22:23 (four years ago) link
Yes, that’s why I said those things across several posts.
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 17 February 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link