Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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Periscoped chat?

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1jMJgEepavqKL

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link

Christman should be barred from ever doing his Trump impression again.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link

really glad I dropped Red Scare after like 3 weeks

Sorry but airing out alleged sexual predators in a literal Twitter thread isn’t “seeking justice” or “telling your story,” it’s attempting to capitalize on your trauma in exchange for agreeing to be exploited by a massive digital platform

— Anna Khachiyan (@annakhachiyan) October 3, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 4 October 2018 14:24 (five years ago) link

meanwhile someone successfully boiled down her shtick to a sentence so I never have to think about her/them again

love to defend my reactionary opinions as cosmopolitan anti-americanism to my audience of gullible, self-hating europhile americans

— /// (@infiniteaviary) October 3, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 4 October 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link

eurgh xp

shrek and han solo kinda dress the same (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 4 October 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link

someone had to take up Paglia's mantle

flappy bird, Thursday, 4 October 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

she's tweeted about camille paglia multiple times including pictures of paglia books she's reading

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 4 October 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

and she basically has the same views

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 4 October 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

like millennial trolly paglia basically

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 4 October 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

more trolly i guess

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 4 October 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link

imo Red Scare is more of a comedy podcast than a political podcast. it's closer to Cum Town than Chapo, they talk about politics just as much and their (really just Anna's) political affiliation is contrarianism. Anna deliberately misinterprets events and contorts her takes accordingly, and then there'll be a pause and Dasha will offer a lukewarm "sure." it's schtick and obviously not for everyone. this is only to say that taking them at face value or seriously is just as much a waste of time as getting mad about a Cum Town bit. they (Anna) thrive off the negative attention on Twitter, if you don't like them just ignore them. most of the humor for me (and Dasha/Meg) is how stupid or insane Anna sounds sometimes.

flappy bird, Thursday, 4 October 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

sounds like tremendous content.

evol j, Thursday, 4 October 2018 17:16 (five years ago) link

Are we not, as a culture, done with contrarianism yet

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Thursday, 4 October 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link

brettkavanaugh.jpg

shrek and han solo kinda dress the same (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 4 October 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

xp lol definitely not

flappy bird, Thursday, 4 October 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link

Are we not, as a culture, done with contrarianism yet

― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Thursday, October 4, 2018 1:17 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

new opposite-world board description

evol j, Thursday, 4 October 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link

anna khachiyan is not contrarian, she actually has p consistent horrible opinions

flopson, Thursday, 4 October 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link

those are not mutually exclusive, they go hand in hand. you could say the exact same thing about Camille Paglia.

flappy bird, Thursday, 4 October 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link

contrarian implies opportunism; imho anna is a principled bigot

flopson, Thursday, 4 October 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link

I don't think RS really works as a comedy podcast because they spend too much time on their dogshit opinions tbh

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 4 October 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link

someone on reddit pointed out that Dasha and Anna look like young Walter Becker and Donald Fagan and now it's all I can think about whenever someone mentions red scare

https://scontent-frt3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/afed116f26fd455295314e3d1f49bb37/5BFF5D42/t51.2885-15/e35/39184831_1880895528655732_7217063384053710848_n.jpg?se=7&ig_cache_key=MTg1Mzc5NDA5MDcyMDA1ODE4NA%3D%3D.2

https://consequenceofsound.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/screen-shot-2017-09-03-at-9-52-42-am.png?w=807

soref, Thursday, 4 October 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link

omfg

flappy bird, Thursday, 4 October 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

I don't think RS really works as a comedy podcast because they spend too much time on their dogshit opinions tbh

― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, October 4, 2018 1:52 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the comedy for me

flappy bird, Thursday, 4 October 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link

if i wanna engage with dogshit opinions i’ll post on ilxor dot com thx

shrek and han solo kinda dress the same (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 4 October 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link

they spend too much time on their dogshit opinions

Probably a function of the fact that Anna takes up 75% of the airtime.

jmm, Thursday, 4 October 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link

but doctor i am paglia, c

All right! A new season! (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 4 October 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

lmao

latebloomer, Thursday, 4 October 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

AK’s schtick really hammers home for me just how empty and reactionary contrarianism is as a mode of commentary, since it can’t exist without something to bristle against. She would be lost without her lefty/liberal media peers to piss off.

latebloomer, Thursday, 4 October 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUJUmMU4X7s

flappy bird, Monday, 15 October 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

The reading series are getting kind of exhausting too now unfortunately, way too much commentary and not enough reading the article. Having five people jumping all over a Rod Dreher piece really kills the fun.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 15 October 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link

yeah, just listening to something stupid play out is much more fun than hearing people yelling "This is so stupid!" after every sentence

President Keyes, Monday, 15 October 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link

They should cap people on the mic at three, including guests.

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 15 October 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link

I do a show with four hosts - it can work as long as you have someone conducting/moderating, which I think Will tries and mostly fails to do. Even less of an excuse for crosstalk since they usually record in the same room.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 15 October 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

Bring back the talking stick/VHS box

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 15 October 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

I love jon bois but why on earth would anyone let Felix narrate a doc

working on stuff pic.twitter.com/iXKrHK2UZV

— Jon Bois (@jon_bois) October 16, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 03:58 (five years ago) link

Must be a MMA video

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 05:04 (five years ago) link

what do you usually post about sir?

— Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (@Ahmadinejad1956) October 16, 2018

okay lmao

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link

oh my god

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link

wokemadinejad one of the top 5 weirdest developments in a very weird year

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link

mahmoud ahmadinejad, go on chapo

himalayan mountain hole (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link

lets fuckin go

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link

Dude’s been active and weird:

The #NFL season will start this week, unfortunately once again @Kaepernick7 is not on a NFL roster. Even though he is one of the best Quarterbacks in the league.#ColinKaepernick #NFL

— Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (@Ahmadinejad1956) September 3, 2018


Dear Mahmoud,

We have much bigger problems here. #Michigan is 8-8 in its last 16 games under @CoachJim4UM . #GoBlue

Also, college football is the only authentic football.

Cordially,

Fred

— fredzannarbor (@fredzannarbor) September 3, 2018


With a hard work ethic Inshallah the U of M will return to its glory days.

— Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (@Ahmadinejad1956) October 16, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link

great now my fav sports team has the mahmoud seal of approval

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link

really confused by that tweet, if it weren't 2018 i would be befuddled by it

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link

the guy’s a born shitposter, glad he’s found his niche at last

himalayan mountain hole (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

v good posting style imo

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link

His username having his birth year is a perfect touch.

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 01:09 (five years ago) link

Only way to make it better would be Xahmadinejad1956X

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 01:10 (five years ago) link

this article about chapo and Jordan Peterson is too long and not all good, but I liked these bits:

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2018/10/clean-rooms-and-dirtbags/

Conservative Canadian professor Jordan Peterson and socialist Brooklynite podcast Chapo Trap House have a lot in common. They each make around a hundred thousand dollars a month from Patreon donations. They each inspire both adoration and revulsion, while rejecting, in different ways, forms of political correctness. And they share an audience—what Angela Nagle, writing in the Atlantic, called “lost boys” and what the Chapo guys call “failsons”—fans in their mid-20s, very frequently white, overwhelmingly male, with little direction in life but an aching need for purpose and meaning.

My best guess about what distinguishes a Peterson lost boy fan from a Chapo failson fan is that the two will tend to have different capacities. Peterson’s cleanliness emphasizes broad, shallow learning, aprioristic thinking, simplicity, symbolism, and sincerity. Chapo’s dirt emphasizes obsessive knowledge of various elements of modern culture (message boards, left-wing politics, film, anime, etc.), social reasoning, clever witticisms, complexity, the concrete, and irony. But Peterson’s logic does not really cohere in Twelve Rules for Life. And The Chapo Guide to Revolution isn’t a remotely clever book.

soref, Thursday, 18 October 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link


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