US Politics, October 2018: next week will be even longer

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FFFFF,

Bart

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 22:53 (five years ago) link

fuck

Dan S, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 22:53 (five years ago) link

Love Rehoboth.

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link

1) he signed his letter "bart", lol
2) remember his excuse about the "FFFFFFFFourth of July" reference in the yearbook? that a friend of theirs would stretch out the F's when he said a certain word? god, this is all so dumb

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link

i lived a six-hour drive away and still went to ocean city, md for a week

had a good time, but man what a terrible idea

mookieproof, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link

I want to hear about bret’s sick run ins with the cops there and whether they were chill or not

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 22:55 (five years ago) link

Maybe it’s just me but stories like these play into the narrative of “fake news” and theNYT’s agenda. They prove nothing and come across as piling on not to mention missing the point.

I wish more of the coverage were based on his clearly partisan comments on Thursday. That point alone should merit disqualification regardless of his sexual and/or drunken history. I believe lawyers call it the principle of “actual or apparent conflict.”

tobo73, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link

The fact that he lied so much is relevant

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link

I don’t care that he drank a lot. I am frequently wasted when I post to ilx. (Working on changing this).

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link

I don't know, I don't think that NYT article is missing the point

Dan S, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 22:58 (five years ago) link

My parents were pretty lenient with me in high school, but no fucking way they would green light (much less fund) a week a at beach house sans parental supervision. I don't recall any Beach Week thing in high school (Pittsburgh) but I guess I went to a lamer high school than mookie ;)

There was definitely a Beach Week for seniors in college between end of exams and graduation. I stayed on campus and worked THANK GOD.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link

anti-Clinton gumshoe Barbara Comstock is now a Republican member of Congress.

Not for long. She is about to lose bigly. And I will cackle with juvenile glee.

And since there have been many xxxps I will just say it's really touching how the blue-collar Red State MAGA hat diner bubbas are totally going all out in support of the guy who went to Georgetown Prep sand Yale Law and vacationed at Rehoboth.

Dancing with the Tsars (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:00 (five years ago) link

I hear you; maybe it’s just making the same point for the millionth time.

tobo73, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:00 (five years ago) link

Yeah.

Also the obnoxious, loutish, fuck the police drunk he seems to be is different than just a little buzz. He wasn’t Buzz O’Kavanaugh. It does show a character flaw.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:00 (five years ago) link

just the signing of the the letter FFFFF, bart, and the lying about what it means in the hearing disqualifies him

what an awful person. we're going to make him our next supreme court justice?

Dan S, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:07 (five years ago) link

So is it confirmed avenatti was right that this is a reference to date rape?

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link

actually maybe the FFFFF really is about their friend stuttering, according to the NYT article. kinda weird and unfunny and mean to their "friend", but probably in character

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:10 (five years ago) link

maybe I'm misinterpreting it

Dan S, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:21 (five years ago) link

The vibes of mid-Atlantic beaches are very particular, and it is an area of interest to me. I am still a little boggled about the specific choice of Rehoboth for this preppy kegger crew.

Fwiw I have been going to Rehoboth annually since my precambrian childhood; indeed I was just there a few weeks ago. Then as now, it's about 40% gay and 40% families with young children; 20% everybody else (Amish, Balmer folks, occasional Philly goombahs).

There is a small but loud 20-something party crowd, but it's not really a great destination for teenagers, unless their parents bring them.

Downscale partiers go to Dewey Beach. Families that prefer a quieter vibe go to Bethany. Cape May (NJ) has a a quainter, politer vibe, while simultaneously being very New Jersey.

Anyway the ultimate destination for yr true bacchanalian reveler is Ocean City (Maryland) and always has been.

Why did Bart and Squi and Jughead (or whatever) choose the gayest beach south of Fire Island, and one of the most stroller-friendly? I have an answer, but I will withhold it for now.

Dancing with the Tsars (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link

My friends who went to DC area private schools in the first half of the ‘80s/knew guys who did say the FFFF thing was in a song by the Mentors, a band fratty douchebros really liked because of that song.

suzy, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:35 (five years ago) link

Yeah it’s absolutely weird that they didn’t go to Ocean City

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:37 (five years ago) link

Maybe they all were really nostalgic for Funland, like me.

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:37 (five years ago) link

the only time I spent at Rehoboth Beach was with.....David Brock! about 18 years ago I was briefly friends with him, and I spent a weekend at his house there, around the time of his conversion from right to left. I hated his book about Hill but it was hard to hate him as a person

Dan S, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:38 (five years ago) link

Silby gets it.

Dancing with the Tsars (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:38 (five years ago) link

the only time I spent at Rehoboth Beach was with.....David Brock! about 18 years ago I was briefly friends with him

Wait hold on

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:39 (five years ago) link

Sounds like a fair number of G'town Prep families may have had beach homes in Rehoboth, so kids would have access to family homes?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:39 (five years ago) link

xpost I mean not that I'm asking you to tell yer life story but how did that all happen!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:39 (five years ago) link

YMP have you camped at Cape Henlopen State Park before? We did that several times and it's a real winner for a quiet stay. Nice little walk through the pines and past the old Army installation to the beach.

I don't get up there anymore b/c of living in Seattle.

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:39 (five years ago) link

xp I was friends at the time with his best friend from Berkeley

Dan S, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:42 (five years ago) link

boy am I sorry I looked up the lyrics to that song, suzy

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:42 (five years ago) link

quincie do you go to the beach

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:42 (five years ago) link

We went there (Henlopen)! Official high school senior trip.

we went to Rehobeth, Bethany and Dewey as a family.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link

I went to the beach this year! It was in Nicaragua.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link

the letter is about a condo in Ocean City though?

Number None, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link

xxpost I've been in DC for like 15 years and have never made it to the Delaware/MD beaches. Not really feeling keen on them atm.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:44 (five years ago) link

tobo otm

BK kinda has admitted drinking excessively and regretting behavior. i thought we were going after him for sexual assault (and lying about his actions in the Bush years, which the gen public doesnt care about).

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:44 (five years ago) link

that mentors song came out in 1985. i definitely saw the phrase “findum, fuckum, and flee” on playground graffiti.

xp

maura, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:45 (five years ago) link

I have heard enough Dewey stories from former Dewey group house bros that I an def never renting a place there.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:46 (five years ago) link

I love camping at Cape Henlopen. Good times.

Anyway Quincie is on the right track. The Bart crowd wanted to party, obv, but they also weren't very creative or adventurous about it.

They went where their parents already had houses, yes. But more to the point they went where their parents took them when they were kids. Their wildness always and only happened inside their rich white preppy-ass comfort zone. Sad!

Oh and, their parents totally let them have the keys to their vacation houses, eschew eschewed chaperoning, and looked the other way. many even bought the keys. Because Beach Week. Privilege is a hell of a drug, yo.

Dancing with the Tsars (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:50 (five years ago) link

My friends who went to DC area private schools in the first half of the ‘80s/knew guys who did say the FFFF thing was in a song by the Mentors, a band fratty douchebros really liked because of that song.

― suzy, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 9:35 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


In my head I’m just substituting ‘boobs in California’ from jimmy schmidt and assuming that’s all I need to know.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:52 (five years ago) link

the only time I spent at Rehoboth Beach was with.....David Brock! about 18 years ago I was briefly friends with him, and I spent a weekend at his house there, around the time of his conversion from right to left. I hated his book about Hill but it was hard to hate him as a person

― Dan S, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 7:38 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Dude; what?

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:53 (five years ago) link

he wasn't terrible

Dan S, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:54 (five years ago) link

Crud, that got garbled by kindletyping

I mean bought the kegs.

The parents in question figured they had good enough lawyers and they also dgaf

Also kinda amazed by the Brock story

Dancing with the Tsars (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:54 (five years ago) link

hmmm, i wd've hated him as a person

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:54 (five years ago) link

I thought the Mentors song refered to an earlier usage. Or was a song based around an existing saying rather than one they coined.
I was thinking that I was mainly aware of them years later, late 80s rather than early.

Singer El Duce may be more infamous as somebody accused of killing Kurt Cobain or rumoured to be hired to do so.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:55 (five years ago) link

tobo otm

BK kinda has admitted drinking excessively and regretting behavior. i thought we were going after him for sexual assault (and lying about his actions in the Bush years, which the gen public doesnt care about).

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 9:44 AM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I hate that the pyrometer details of drunken escapees are being used as a smoke screen for the actually bad stuff and being used to reinforce the utterly odious ‘boys will be boys’ narrative that seems to go along with this.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:56 (five years ago) link

I still don’t trust David Brock.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:56 (five years ago) link

Drunken escapees

New band name thx

Dancing with the Tsars (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:57 (five years ago) link

I don't totally, either, but he's on our side

xp morbs, I would have thought I would too

Dan S, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:58 (five years ago) link

Oh, the beach. Haven't been in four years now, but next summer? Heck yes.

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link


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