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late period scott walker is utter wank (drift onwards)

― ritual showdown (Ross)

every period Scott Walker

yeah!

morelike Scott Wankyr!

In regards to the comments above, ambient (and noise) are definitely the "are you kidding me? my kid can do this!" of music

― Evan, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 12:12 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and in most cases, the people saying that would be correct

imago really is our resident maximalist.

late period scott walker is utter wank (drift onwards)

― ritual showdown (Ross), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 17:19 (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Walker finally got good with The Drift and Bish-Bosch is his best album

pish-posh

and in most cases, the people saying that would be correct

― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 12:26 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah but it's irrelevant; technical proficiency has nothing to do with measuring the quality of experimental music

guitar tablature and sheet music should be revamped, with all solos written only in variations of the words "meedly", "moodly", "weelity-weelity" or "rawwwwwwwronnnnnnnn"

guitar tablature and sheet music should be revamped, with all solos written only in variations of the words "meedly", "moodly", "weelity-weelity" or "rawwwwwwwronnnnnnnn"

― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal)

the "tight bros from way back" book of guitar tab

people who claim they can tell the difference are often lying

Strawmanning?

Yeah, ambient music is almost always worthless

― imago, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:15 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why? (genuine question)

wrong thread probably, but oh well

again, "my kids could do this" who gives a shit?

i honestly don't care if a "classic ambient master" lol or a stoner or a kid made something if i find it intriguing. can't believe people look to ambient music for mad musician chops

I want the music I listen to for leveling out while I smoke a bowl to be composed by someone at least at Steve Howe level!

"I can play Timbaland beats on my CASIO"

Ambient music is ridiculous. It will never be as good as the sound of nature. Like leaves in the wind, the birds and the singing frogs.

better be virtuoso frogs motherfucker

my kid could croak!

wait

I can't imagine, with a finite amount of time to spend on Earth, why anyone would want to own more than 5 ambient albums. I mean, if it's functional music, and the end result--relaxation, I presume--is identical regardless of the artist, why not just listen to Hearts of Space if you need to chill? Why buy 180g vinyl pressings of near-static drones that all sound identical?

tbf, I am not including RDJ, Froese, Roach, Eno, etc here. I could pick any of those out of a crowd (probably because they at least aspire to a level of artistry that distinguishes their music from their many imitators, plus, you know, actual melodies and ideas)

you could easily say the same thing about classic rock. "Why should I own anything more than Houses of the Holy, Boston, Master of Reality, Who's Next, Abbey Road, Aerosmith Rocks, etc."

People like that genre of music in the same way that people like any other genre of music.

And I would assume that few here want to read your bullying strawman characterizations.

oh dear I've struck a nerve on the "controversial music opinions" thread

there's a world of difference between Oval, Boards of Canada, RDJ, Stars of the Lid, Grouper, etc.

None of those are what I would consider "ambient" artists at all. Would you? Maybe SotL (who I don't really care for), but not even them, really. I love BoC and Aphex.

Ambient music is ridiculous. It will never be as good as the sound of nature. Like leaves in the wind, the birds and the singing frogs.

― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan)

WAZZUP

xp really? diskont94 isn't ambient? what about Wolfgang Voigt?

oh dear I've struck a nerve on the "controversial music opinions" thread

― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 2:16 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So your controversial music opinion is that all albums in a genre you don't like are the same as the worst hypothetical example you can make up?

Yeah, ambient music is almost always worthless

― imago, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:15 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why? (genuine question)

― groovemaaan, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 5:49 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

worthless for me. if you can chill to it then godspeed. it does little-to-nothing for me

xp really? diskont94 isn't ambient? what about Wolfgang Voigt?

― flappy bird, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 2:23 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

prefer Oval in CD skippy mode. Prefer Voigt in high tension mode (ie Freiland Klaviermusik) or as Mike Ink, though I used to listen to Gas a lot when I couldn't sleep.

so did yr roommates apparently

"I enjoy less music than you do" wow congrats

yes, not collecting the synthesizer scraps of every boutique cassette label has really closed me off to a great deal of unforgettable, unique and exemplary music

re walker, i mean i appreciate 30 century man and interviews where he describes his new recording processes but like the drift felt like dental surgery to me...i think when he sampled farts on bisch bosch that kind of says it all

It's like none of you have ever read Sturgeon's Law. ("90% of everything is crap.")

including all our opinions

Yes, of course. But why is all that crap released?

wait til you hear the crap that's not released

something a stoned guy does in an afternoon with a polysynth and some guitar pedals
Why buy 180g vinyl pressings of near-static drones that all sound identical?
the synthesizer scraps of every boutique cassette label

These are not genuine attempts at actually engaging with music or the people who listen to it.

Filled with buzzwords

lol @ Paul missing the point

It's like none of you have ever read Sturgeon's Law. ("90% of everything is crap.")

― grawlix (unperson)

90% of sturgeon's law is crap

TS: ambient vs country vs rap.

go bother Bernie Madoff d00d xxxposts

good one

i think country rap, or "hick hop", generally showcases the best of both genres

I've told my kids that the day I say 'it all sounds the same to me' is the day they're to get the heavy pillow ready.

imago will like ambient fine in a couple of years if the pattern many of us have experienced holds true (get into left-field extreme metal played by people with bonkers technical chops -> notice that once this music's parameters lose the capacity to shock, it's basically ambient -> succumb)