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Ambient music is the only worthwhile music

― groovemaaan, Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:55 PM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

been feeling this a lot lately too lol

Lingua Ignota's All Bitches Die is an infinitely more moving and important feminist statement than anything Beyoncé has ever done.

the standard for controversy: “i don’t like beyoncé”

So it appears.

I'd be happy if it were no longer controversial.

I keep wanting to say something about preferring Destiny's Child but I'd need to actually listen to a solo Beyoncé album to form that opinion, at which point the mental terrorists would have already won.

"I Gotta Feeling" is a classic track that will still get people moving at parties thirty years from now with uncomplicated joy

(Controversial on ILX? Not sure. Came #12 in 2009 tracks poll but was loudly clowned in thread and nobody owned to voting for it)

OK well there was this

on the "obnoxious" pop song, i definitely find that songs that seem unbearable during their initial go-round sometimes strike me more favorably a year or two or five later -- when they've faded from ubiquity and i realize (usually reluctantly) that even while consciously hating them i was unconsciously absorbing them through massive exposure and now they light up my neural pathways even if i don't want them to. it almost seems like a biological response to me, but the net result is that i end up "liking" something that i used to "hate."

― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, February 1, 2010 11:50 PM (eight years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(that may eventually prove true of "i gotta feeling," but it's too soon to say. i'm still in resistance mode.)

― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, February 1, 2010 11:51 PM (eight years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This thread (+ Sound on Sound) are getting me to listen to the Carters album anyway.

(Other future classics: Chainsmokers - "Closer", Imagine Dragons - "Thunder". I hate "I Gotta Feeling" but you're probably right about it.)

"I Gotta Feeling" is a classic track that will still get people moving at parties thirty years from now with uncomplicated joy

it's a wedding song now, so yes, you're absolutely right

don't think it's a particularly controversial stance though

I Gotta Feeling gets played on regular rotation at the commercial radio station I work for. Even on Monday mornings(!)

(Other future classics: Chainsmokers - "Closer", Imagine Dragons - "Thunder". I hate "I Gotta Feeling" but you're probably right about it.)

I also hate "I Gotta Feeling" but I'd take it over the other two in a heartbeat

i gotta feeling already has 'classic' status yeah and im way more sympathetic to it than i was when it came out, though its still not great

i could imagine closer having that sort of status in the future (ugh) but i really doubt imagine dragons will be strongly remembered

Ambient music is the only worthwhile music

― groovemaaan, Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:55 PM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

been feeling this a lot lately too lol

― marcos, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 9:47 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Counterpoint: given the advances in recording technology, it is almost impossible to tell a classic 'ambient' piece by one of the greats from something a stoned guy does in an afternoon with a polysynth and some guitar pedals, and people who claim they can tell the difference are often lying

Lingua Ignota's All Bitches Die

This is indeed an amazing album and everyone should hear it

Well so maybe I should be clear that my controversial opinion isn't a grudging "I guess it's settled, this song is not going to be forgotten, people are going to like it forever" but rather "this song is a towering achievement that will stand the test of time because it's such an unimpeachable banger"

I also love Boom Boom Pow and Imma Bee.

Counterpoint: given the advances in recording technology, it is almost impossible to tell a classic 'ambient' piece by one of the greats from something a stoned guy does in an afternoon with a polysynth and some guitar pedals, and people who claim they can tell the difference are often lying

― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 11:39 AM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

imo the difference doesn't matter. who gives a shit

This is indeed an amazing album and everyone should hear it

― jmm

everyone should also be smacked in the face with a rusty shovel

Thunder wont make the cut even 5 years from now, it’s not a good party song. I’ll up the bet, as someone living in latinamerica we have 10+ hour weddings over here and you can tell which english-spoken songs will be classics if they get played over here. If they make it out of the US/UK they have trascended language and will probably become classics. Small caveat: there needs to be a break from listening the song for a couple of years. Despacito and Shape of You made it all around the q

/Ambient music is the only worthwhile music

― groovemaaan, Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:55 PM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

been feeling this a lot lately too lol

― marcos, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 9:47 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink/

Counterpoint: given the advances in recording technology, it is almost impossible to tell a classic 'ambient' piece by one of the greats from something a stoned guy does in an afternoon with a polysynth and some guitar pedals, and people who claim they can tell the difference are often lying

... all around the globe but noone wants to listen to them ever again in any type of party until 2025 probably

Counterpoint: given the advances in recording technology, it is almost impossible to tell a classic 'ambient' piece by one of the greats from something a stoned guy does in an afternoon with a polysynth and some guitar pedals, and people who claim they can tell the difference are often lying

― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 8:39 AM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

counterpoint: who gives a shiiiiit

Songs can become well-remembered classics for reasons other than being good party/wedding songs.

Also, Moka, iirc you didn't think "More Than a Feeling" was as popular as the Outfield's "Your Love" so idk if I'm taking your bet.

All that said, I'm posting controversial opinions, not making thoughtfully considered predictions.

Blue
Hejira
The Hissing of Summer Lawns

if I go to hell, this is the soundtrack

In regards to the comments above, ambient (and noise) are definitely the "are you kidding me? my kid can do this!" of music

Yeah, ambient music is almost always worthless

^ This is not my point

It was mine! This is the thread for it after all

late period scott walker is utter wank (drift onwards)

Just clarifying since you said "yeah" after my post

xp

late period scott walker is utter wank (drift onwards)

― ritual showdown (Ross)

every period Scott Walker

yeah!

morelike Scott Wankyr!

In regards to the comments above, ambient (and noise) are definitely the "are you kidding me? my kid can do this!" of music

― Evan, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 12:12 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and in most cases, the people saying that would be correct

imago really is our resident maximalist.

late period scott walker is utter wank (drift onwards)

― ritual showdown (Ross), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 17:19 (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Walker finally got good with The Drift and Bish-Bosch is his best album

pish-posh

and in most cases, the people saying that would be correct

― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 12:26 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah but it's irrelevant; technical proficiency has nothing to do with measuring the quality of experimental music

guitar tablature and sheet music should be revamped, with all solos written only in variations of the words "meedly", "moodly", "weelity-weelity" or "rawwwwwwwronnnnnnnn"

guitar tablature and sheet music should be revamped, with all solos written only in variations of the words "meedly", "moodly", "weelity-weelity" or "rawwwwwwwronnnnnnnn"

― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal)

the "tight bros from way back" book of guitar tab

people who claim they can tell the difference are often lying

Strawmanning?

Yeah, ambient music is almost always worthless

― imago, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:15 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why? (genuine question)

wrong thread probably, but oh well

again, "my kids could do this" who gives a shit?

i honestly don't care if a "classic ambient master" lol or a stoner or a kid made something if i find it intriguing. can't believe people look to ambient music for mad musician chops