early versions, ya. after the hiatus playin/other one got a little tepid imo
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 1 October 2018 01:14 (five years ago) link
Today in grateful dead history: truckin>the other one jam>the other one>jam>big river>the other one>eyes of the world>the other one>wharf rat! https://archive.org/details/gd73-11-14.sbd.vernon.5612.sbeok.shnf/gd73-11-14d3t06.shn
― BrianB, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link
I was listening to GD Radio in the car the other day; there was a casual transition into "Wharf Rat" (from I forget which song) that was just so choice.
― too busy or too stoned (morrisp), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link
Drums>space got no love in this poll. But it never fails to impress my wife who HATES the dead and rountinely complains when i'm listening to them around her, especially if it's fire on the mountain - "when will this damn song be over?" But when drums>space is on, she's always like, "I like this, what is it?"
― BrianB, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link
There is no Grateful Dead song that my wife would tolerate for a millisecond!
― verlaine & rambo (morrisp), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link
Another sublime other one today: https://archive.org/details/gd1971-12-01.partial-set2-matrix.vernon.83164.flac16/gd71-12-01matrix03.flac
― BrianB, Saturday, 1 December 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link
The detour through south Colorado West Texas bound and back onto the bus again is one of those lost in the song moments,wait where are we? What is this?
― BrianB, Saturday, 1 December 2018 15:14 (five years ago) link
Then not fade away comes up like a cathartic signpost pointing the way down the road where the climate suits my clothes.
― BrianB, Saturday, 1 December 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link
Great mountains of the moon > dark star > St Stephen > 11 https://archive.org/details/gd69-02-15.sbd.winters.16664.sbeok.shnf/gd69-02-15d2t05.shn
― BrianB, Sunday, 17 February 2019 02:24 (five years ago) link
https://archive.org/details/gd1977-05-15.aud.maizner.berger.99099.flac16/gd1977-05-15d1t05.flac
this spring 77 AUD has such a great feel, so slinky and slow. 'row jimmy' is a good taste but even the new minglewood blues is incredibly laid back
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 18 February 2019 01:18 (five years ago) link
Today in dead history: An other one w/ a side of jesu joy of man's desiring into a fantastic Stella blue. https://archive.org/details/gd1981-03-14.nak700.glassberg.motb.84826.sbeok.flac16/gd1981-03-14.motb.0029.d3t02.flac
― BrianB, Friday, 15 March 2019 02:10 (five years ago) link
“Dark Star” is one of their jam tracks where if Jerry botches the opening vocals I check out. Scarlet/Fire for 20+++++ minutes is my Dead zone these days.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 22 March 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link
'Turn On Your Love Light' was a pretty big jam staple in the Pigpen era. Drum solo would come off that tune sometimes or they would jam into it to close a set or a show.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 01:16 (three years ago) link
'Bird Song' is one Dead tune that when they jam on it, some interesting stuff comes out too, outside the more well known tunes for improvisation. It's got a lilt that makes it good to riff on the melody and play with the chords.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 01:19 (three years ago) link
Hey Western® with Bacon Flavor, I urge you to check out Dark Star from 9/27/72 (Dick's Picks Vol. 11). Personally I think Jerry nails the verse ;)
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 11:42 (three years ago) link
That's the closest I get to a birthday Dead show. I wasn't too impressed, but I will give it another try.
― righteous oxide (PBKR), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 11:57 (three years ago) link
10/17/83 has a great bird song xxp
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 14:24 (three years ago) link
^The early 80s are mostly a blind spot for me Deadwise. I'm checking out that 10/17/83 Bird Song right now and yep it's really nice--Jerry is extremely ON.
I need to shout out 8/1/73, which features both a lovely Bird Song and--in my very arguable opinion--the greatest Dark Star ever played. Keith shining brightly on the Fender Rhodes throughout.
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 14:55 (three years ago) link
this is the only 80s show i know decently because the sugaree was touted and i had a sugaree phase. overall i can't stand brent and bob is unbearable in this era
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 15:03 (three years ago) link
ooh yes this bird song is lovely. excited for the DS. i like the 73 ones where they do noisy feedback
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 15:16 (three years ago) link
Cryptical Envelopment 1 -> The Other One -> Cryptical Envelopment 2 on Fillmore East 2/11/69
J Sam thx for the rec will seek it out
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 15:33 (three years ago) link
overall i can't stand brent and bob is unbearable in this era
Brent's voice has grown on me a little over the years, though I still find it slightly annoying.
Bob...I mean...what the fuck did he think he was doing? Was he trying to (over)compensate for Jerry's onstage nodding or something?
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link
what the fuck did he think he was doing?
he was doing cocaine
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link
lolBobs vocal improvisations are just the worst. “Estimated prophet “ In particular NAH NAH NAH DONT WORRY BOUT ME NO
― calstars, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 17:53 (three years ago) link
I’ve listened to enough at this point where when I’m looking to pull on a random live show I’m fully expecting to skip through a good chunk of Weir and Cringe-pen led songs. The world never needed 10+ minute renditions of “Good Morning Little Schoolgirl.”
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link
I don't know, I've kinda come back around full circle on some of those Pig vamps. Every now and then the band lands on a killer groove and I get into 'em.
100% agreed on Bobby's vocal improvs tho, especially when he'd inject the falsetto
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link
Shorts must have been a little too tight
― calstars, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link
There is not a single listenable ‘80s or ‘90s “Estimated Prophet.” Even the ones with David Murray, Bob has to ruin everything with his horseshittery.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link
Pig instructing the men in the audience to take their hands out of their pockets and go proposition the nearest female during every Lovelight and Weir's Mexicali Statutory Rapist Blues are deal breakers for me. Can't skip either of those songs fast enough. Also, any song where Brent digs into the pain he feels as a drugged up musician on the road away from his family. So gross.
― BrianB, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link
I'm no Pigpen stan but "Mr. Charlie" simply rips. And "The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)" is a pretty good tough-guy-gets-sensitive song, and it makes me sad he didn't get a chance to explore that avenue further
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link
He’s pretty good on Easy Wind. Little Bobby certainly couldn’t have pulled that lyric off, and with Jerry it would have taken on a melancholy reflective tinge like Wharf Rat does
― calstars, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link
― brimstead, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link
On this day in 1974 at the Cow Palace in San Francisco, the Grateful Dead debuted their "Wall Of Sound" PA system. Every instrument and every microphone had its own separate set of speakers. The output was crystal-clear from half a mile away.They dragged it, and two stage setups leapfrogging each other, around the continent during an oil embargo crisis. It was so innovative, and so expensive, that seven months later they abandoned it and took some time off to wait for the rest of the music industry to catch up to them.
(from a friend)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Jesd35ex402z.jpg
― I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:54 (three years ago) link
I know many of the Dick's Picks and some of the European shows pretty well. They could take off on some of those sets for like 90 minutes straight. This one is pretty wild.
"Dark Star" -> (Garcia, Hart, Kreutzmann, Lesh, McKernan, Weir, Hunter) – 29:41 "That's It for the Other One" -> (Grateful Dead) – 30:07 "Turn On Your Love Light" (Malone, Scott) – 30:27
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick%27s_Picks_Volume_4
That huge one on Hundred Year Hall is really cool.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 02:05 (three years ago) link
I feel pretty confident that, were he alive today, Jerry would have surfaced in the covidiots in music thread
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 10:56 (three years ago) link
'Chlor'quin', like the Trump-ah manOnce told me "You've got to look at the sun"Sometimes they won't let you have any funIf you don't have a mask
― righteous oxide (PBKR), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 11:16 (three years ago) link
Dick's Pick's 16 is one of my favorites cause nearly the entire show is one continuous jam with weird digressions:
Dark Star > 14:43The Other One > 12:00Dark Star > 1:05Uncle John's Jam > 2:34Dark Star 3:24Saint Stephen > 7:01The Eleven > 14:34Caution > 17:43Main Ten Jam> 3:12Caution > 8:26Feedback > 8:32And We Bid You Goodnight 3:31
― righteous oxide (PBKR), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 11:30 (three years ago) link
I had to look that one up because my initial view of that set list had me thinking Weir and Pig must have had laryngitis or something but that just looks to be the latter half of the set.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 12:11 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I just realized that archive.org (where I took that from) is missing most of the first half of the official release.
― righteous oxide (PBKR), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 13:02 (three years ago) link
Estimated > Eyes is a favorite of late
― trip maker, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link
Speaking of live Dead, they just announced an underwhelming reissue of Skull and Roses with a second disc pulled from 7/2/71. Kinda surprised to see this since they've always said the series of 50th anniversary reissues wasn't going to include live albums.
Fillmore West, San Francisco, CA (7/2/71)1. GOOD LOVIN' [17:47]2. SING ME BACK HOME [10:16]3. MAMA TRIED [3:08]4. CRYPTICAL ENVELOPMENT> [2:25]5. DRUMS> [5:13]6. THE OTHER ONE [15:51]7. BIG BOSS MAN [5:27]8. NOT FADE AWAY> [3:57]9. GOIN' DOWN THE ROAD FEELING BAD [9:39]10. NOT FADE AWAY [2:35]"
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link
Late 80s/90s “good lovin” another good example of Bobby going off the rails vocally
― calstars, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link
doing a dive into the ‘77 performances of Help/Slip/Frank and they are absolutely stomping.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link
the Dark Star at Pirates World is jolly good fun, 1970-03-24, Dania, FL.
https://archive.org/details/gd70-03-24.sbd.miller.32054.sbeok.flacf/gd70-03-24d2t01.flac
― llurk, Thursday, 25 March 2021 03:34 (three years ago) link
xxxxxxxxxp I think 1st August 73 was a Jerry's birthday show. I think I noticed more of a soul influence on teh night when I was listening to it a few years ago. Used to have it on a cassette tape so that goes back several years. JUst remember having it playing as i was on a bus through kilburn . Which is a snippet stuck in my head.Anyway good gig.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 25 March 2021 11:23 (three years ago) link
as to introduction live setsI think Two From The Vault which is them at a peak in August 68.Dick's Picks vol 4 which is another peak in may 70.I guess the peak for 69 is Feb/March as utilised for Live dead and the Fillmore 69 sets.
not really sure about peak months for later years.Do think that Veneta set that is Now Sunshine Daydream which conveniently comes with teh film as a dvd in the package.Was listening to Pacific Northwest 3cd earlier which is good but not sure about best for year. oh yeah it spans 2 for one thing.
I meant to pick up the 50th anniversary sets but haven't done so so far.Good to know most stuff was up at archive.org if it still is. Was stil streaming the sets that were offically released last time i looked while they had removed the ability to individually d/ld those gigs.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 25 March 2021 11:30 (three years ago) link
WOW this is the best sounding AUD i think i have ever heard
https://archive.org/details/gd1975-09-28.fob.menke-falanga.motb-0069.91769.flac16/gd1975-09-28.motb.0069.d1t01.flac
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:27 (three years ago) link
Don’t have the details here in front of me but there is an audience recording of a 1971 show from Hollywood Bowl that is unreal. Super crisp and it puts you right in the belly of the beast, so to speak. Check it out.
― tobo73, Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:48 (three years ago) link
8/6/71- the hard to handle on it is great, haven't listened to much of the rest because i don't dig that era too much
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:49 (three years ago) link
'71 is a tough year for me to fully love. A lot of the primal dust has shaken off by this point, but they've yet to launch into the expansive explorations that would come in '72. Which isn't to say there's not a ton of good material to be found, but there are a lot of shows that feel like two first sets instead of a first and second set flow.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link