POLL away the dew... Best Grateful Dead recurring live jam/transition piece

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Oh shit I totally got donna jeaned the other day - like ten minutes into Playing and suddenly AAAAAHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYEAHYEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH out of nowhere

joygoat, Sunday, 30 September 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link

yeah, that's pretty standard fare for the 70s, not "out of nowhere" at all. It's usually in the same place in the song every time. In fact, when I hear a post-79 PITB and there's no scream, its absence is pretty conspicuous and I kinda miss it

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 30 September 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

This took me by surprise cause it had come up on shuffle in the car and I didn’t know what era it was until she came in

joygoat, Sunday, 30 September 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

Hahahaha

Duke, Sunday, 30 September 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 1 October 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link

Surprised only two votes for PitB.

Feedback/ Seastones lol, forgot I was on ILX for a second, thanks for the reminder

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 1 October 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link

Other One should have ranked higher, it's a contender

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 1 October 2018 00:37 (five years ago) link

early versions, ya. after the hiatus playin/other one got a little tepid imo

global tetrahedron, Monday, 1 October 2018 01:14 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Today in grateful dead history: truckin>the other one jam>the other one>jam>big river>the other one>eyes of the world>the other one>wharf rat! https://archive.org/details/gd73-11-14.sbd.vernon.5612.sbeok.shnf/gd73-11-14d3t06.shn

BrianB, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link

I was listening to GD Radio in the car the other day; there was a casual transition into "Wharf Rat" (from I forget which song) that was just so choice.

too busy or too stoned (morrisp), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link

Drums>space got no love in this poll. But it never fails to impress my wife who HATES the dead and rountinely complains when i'm listening to them around her, especially if it's fire on the mountain - "when will this damn song be over?" But when drums>space is on, she's always like, "I like this, what is it?"

BrianB, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link

There is no Grateful Dead song that my wife would tolerate for a millisecond!

verlaine & rambo (morrisp), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Another sublime other one today: https://archive.org/details/gd1971-12-01.partial-set2-matrix.vernon.83164.flac16/gd71-12-01matrix03.flac

BrianB, Saturday, 1 December 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link

The detour through south Colorado West Texas bound and back onto the bus again is one of those lost in the song moments,wait where are we? What is this?

BrianB, Saturday, 1 December 2018 15:14 (five years ago) link

Then not fade away comes up like a cathartic signpost pointing the way down the road where the climate suits my clothes.

BrianB, Saturday, 1 December 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

Great mountains of the moon > dark star > St Stephen > 11 https://archive.org/details/gd69-02-15.sbd.winters.16664.sbeok.shnf/gd69-02-15d2t05.shn

BrianB, Sunday, 17 February 2019 02:24 (five years ago) link

https://archive.org/details/gd1977-05-15.aud.maizner.berger.99099.flac16/gd1977-05-15d1t05.flac

this spring 77 AUD has such a great feel, so slinky and slow. 'row jimmy' is a good taste but even the new minglewood blues is incredibly laid back

global tetrahedron, Monday, 18 February 2019 01:18 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Today in dead history: An other one w/ a side of jesu joy of man's desiring into a fantastic Stella blue. https://archive.org/details/gd1981-03-14.nak700.glassberg.motb.84826.sbeok.flac16/gd1981-03-14.motb.0029.d3t02.flac

BrianB, Friday, 15 March 2019 02:10 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

“Dark Star” is one of their jam tracks where if Jerry botches the opening vocals I check out. Scarlet/Fire for 20+++++ minutes is my Dead zone these days.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 22 March 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link

'Turn On Your Love Light' was a pretty big jam staple in the Pigpen era. Drum solo would come off that tune sometimes or they would jam into it to close a set or a show.

earlnash, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 01:16 (three years ago) link

'Bird Song' is one Dead tune that when they jam on it, some interesting stuff comes out too, outside the more well known tunes for improvisation. It's got a lilt that makes it good to riff on the melody and play with the chords.

earlnash, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 01:19 (three years ago) link

Hey Western® with Bacon Flavor, I urge you to check out Dark Star from 9/27/72 (Dick's Picks Vol. 11). Personally I think Jerry nails the verse ;)

J. Sam, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 11:42 (three years ago) link

That's the closest I get to a birthday Dead show. I wasn't too impressed, but I will give it another try.

righteous oxide (PBKR), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 11:57 (three years ago) link

10/17/83 has a great bird song xxp

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 14:24 (three years ago) link

^The early 80s are mostly a blind spot for me Deadwise. I'm checking out that 10/17/83 Bird Song right now and yep it's really nice--Jerry is extremely ON.

I need to shout out 8/1/73, which features both a lovely Bird Song and--in my very arguable opinion--the greatest Dark Star ever played. Keith shining brightly on the Fender Rhodes throughout.

J. Sam, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 14:55 (three years ago) link

this is the only 80s show i know decently because the sugaree was touted and i had a sugaree phase. overall i can't stand brent and bob is unbearable in this era

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 15:03 (three years ago) link

ooh yes this bird song is lovely. excited for the DS. i like the 73 ones where they do noisy feedback

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 15:16 (three years ago) link

Cryptical Envelopment 1 -> The Other One -> Cryptical Envelopment 2 on Fillmore East 2/11/69

J Sam thx for the rec will seek it out

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 15:33 (three years ago) link

overall i can't stand brent and bob is unbearable in this era

Brent's voice has grown on me a little over the years, though I still find it slightly annoying.

Bob...I mean...what the fuck did he think he was doing? Was he trying to (over)compensate for Jerry's onstage nodding or something?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link

what the fuck did he think he was doing?

he was doing cocaine

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link

lol
Bobs vocal improvisations are just the worst. “Estimated prophet “ In particular
NAH NAH NAH DONT WORRY BOUT ME NO

calstars, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 17:53 (three years ago) link

I’ve listened to enough at this point where when I’m looking to pull on a random live show I’m fully expecting to skip through a good chunk of Weir and Cringe-pen led songs. The world never needed 10+ minute renditions of “Good Morning Little Schoolgirl.”

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link

I don't know, I've kinda come back around full circle on some of those Pig vamps. Every now and then the band lands on a killer groove and I get into 'em.

100% agreed on Bobby's vocal improvs tho, especially when he'd inject the falsetto

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link

Shorts must have been a little too tight

calstars, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link

There is not a single listenable ‘80s or ‘90s “Estimated Prophet.” Even the ones with David Murray, Bob has to ruin everything with his horseshittery.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link

Pig instructing the men in the audience to take their hands out of their pockets and go proposition the nearest female during every Lovelight and Weir's Mexicali Statutory Rapist Blues are deal breakers for me. Can't skip either of those songs fast enough. Also, any song where Brent digs into the pain he feels as a drugged up musician on the road away from his family. So gross.

BrianB, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link

I'm no Pigpen stan but "Mr. Charlie" simply rips. And "The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)" is a pretty good tough-guy-gets-sensitive song, and it makes me sad he didn't get a chance to explore that avenue further

J. Sam, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link

He’s pretty good on Easy Wind. Little Bobby certainly couldn’t have pulled that lyric off, and with Jerry it would have taken on a melancholy reflective tinge like Wharf Rat does

calstars, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

lol
Bobs vocal improvisations are just the worst. “Estimated prophet “ In particular
NAH NAH NAH DONT WORRY BOUT ME NO


there’s this early 90s show I saw on dvd where he goes really far out on this one... sings the verses in a series of descending semitones.. he also refuses to properly sing the chorus of “one more saturday night” simplifying it to “yah saturday night!!!” acid trip vibes idk

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link

On this day in 1974 at the Cow Palace in San Francisco, the Grateful Dead debuted their "Wall Of Sound" PA system. Every instrument and every microphone had its own separate set of speakers. The output was crystal-clear from half a mile away.
They dragged it, and two stage setups leapfrogging each other, around the continent during an oil embargo crisis. It was so innovative, and so expensive, that seven months later they abandoned it and took some time off to wait for the rest of the music industry to catch up to them.

(from a friend)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Jesd35ex402z.jpg

I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:54 (three years ago) link

I know many of the Dick's Picks and some of the European shows pretty well. They could take off on some of those sets for like 90 minutes straight. This one is pretty wild.

"Dark Star" -> (Garcia, Hart, Kreutzmann, Lesh, McKernan, Weir, Hunter) – 29:41
"That's It for the Other One" -> (Grateful Dead) – 30:07
"Turn On Your Love Light" (Malone, Scott) – 30:27

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick%27s_Picks_Volume_4

That huge one on Hundred Year Hall is really cool.

earlnash, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 02:05 (three years ago) link

I feel pretty confident that, were he alive today, Jerry would have surfaced in the covidiots in music thread

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 10:56 (three years ago) link

'Chlor'quin', like the Trump-ah man
Once told me "You've got to look at the sun"
Sometimes they won't let you have any fun
If you don't have a mask

righteous oxide (PBKR), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 11:16 (three years ago) link

Dick's Pick's 16 is one of my favorites cause nearly the entire show is one continuous jam with weird digressions:

Dark Star > 14:43
The Other One > 12:00
Dark Star > 1:05
Uncle John's Jam > 2:34
Dark Star 3:24
Saint Stephen > 7:01
The Eleven > 14:34
Caution > 17:43
Main Ten Jam> 3:12
Caution > 8:26
Feedback > 8:32
And We Bid You Goodnight 3:31

righteous oxide (PBKR), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 11:30 (three years ago) link

I had to look that one up because my initial view of that set list had me thinking Weir and Pig must have had laryngitis or something but that just looks to be the latter half of the set.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 12:11 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I just realized that archive.org (where I took that from) is missing most of the first half of the official release.

righteous oxide (PBKR), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 13:02 (three years ago) link

Estimated > Eyes is a favorite of late

trip maker, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link

Speaking of live Dead, they just announced an underwhelming reissue of Skull and Roses with a second disc pulled from 7/2/71. Kinda surprised to see this since they've always said the series of 50th anniversary reissues wasn't going to include live albums.

Fillmore West, San Francisco, CA (7/2/71)
1. GOOD LOVIN' [17:47]
2. SING ME BACK HOME [10:16]
3. MAMA TRIED [3:08]
4. CRYPTICAL ENVELOPMENT> [2:25]
5. DRUMS> [5:13]
6. THE OTHER ONE [15:51]
7. BIG BOSS MAN [5:27]
8. NOT FADE AWAY> [3:57]
9. GOIN' DOWN THE ROAD FEELING BAD [9:39]
10. NOT FADE AWAY [2:35]"

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

Late 80s/90s “good lovin” another good example of Bobby going off the rails vocally

calstars, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link

doing a dive into the ‘77 performances of Help/Slip/Frank and they are absolutely stomping.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link


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