it's the stultifying crassness of all this self-celebration, this recycling
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Sunday, 30 September 2018 06:41 (five years ago) link
I thought DD/LY was arguably the best one since RATW! Otherwise....fair, I suppose
― imago, Sunday, 30 September 2018 10:00 (five years ago) link
i don't think i've listened to phantom power in ten years but my god "piccolo snare" -> "venus and serena"
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 September 2018 13:11 (five years ago) link
Maybe they need to make a cash grab *because* they turned down that 2 million pound payoff?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 September 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link
(This doesn't sound like a cash grab, fwiw, just a small thing for fans who want to buy something, like a souvenir.)
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 September 2018 13:23 (five years ago) link
when the person who is doing all the work on the release has explained that it is moderately likely to make a loss, you can probably stop insisting it's a cash grab
― Ah, the minty egg bits (sic), Sunday, 30 September 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link
There was a period where their social media seemed to be exclusively for flogging new T-shirts and ski caps. I think that’s what caused some of the negativity on the Net.
― afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 30 September 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link
They were also g
― afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 30 September 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link
Haven't really seen a ton of negativity outside of this thread tbh
― PaulTMA, Sunday, 30 September 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link
There are pockets of it 'in the community.' That said, the community is very small. I think overall people are happy they're still active in some way. I'd take a tour of any of their material in a heartbeat. I just wish DD/LY would get its due from them.
― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 1 October 2018 14:29 (five years ago) link
Y'know, if he's going to do more of this stuff, maybe I'm ok with the way things are going:
.@cianciaran fought a giant billion £ multi-national in @edfenergy for Wales. Both parties agreed to discontinue today, after it was agreed that the @AssemblyWales will debate & vote on a motion to stop the dumping next Wednesday 10th October.— Neil McEvoy AM (@neiljmcevoy) October 2, 2018
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/02/hinkley-point-c-nuclear-mud-case-dropped-after-debate-secured
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
https://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/220403/9
'Super Furry Animals at the BBC' Mark Radcliffe Session, Recorded April 1 1996A1. God! Show Me MagicA2. FrisbeeA3. Hometown UnicornA4. Focus Pocus/DebielEvening Session, Recorded April 10 1996B1. Something For The WeekendB2. Hangin' With Howard MarksB3. If You Don't Want Me To Destroy YouB4. God! Show Me MagicEvening Session, Recorded August 11 1997C1. The International Language of ScreamingC2. Torra Fy Ngwallt Yn HirC3. Play It CoolC4. DemonsC5. CalimeroJohn Peel Session, Recorded March 24 1998CH1. The TeacherCH2. Phire in my HeartCH3. Thue Turning TideCH4. Y TeimladEvening Session, Recorded June 2 1999D1. Night VisionD2. Some Things Come From NothingD3. Fire In My HeartD4. Blerwytirhwng?John Peel Session, Recorded March 1 2000DD1. DX HeavenDD2. Ymaelody À'r YmylonDD3. Y Gwyneb IauDD4. ChargeEvening Session, Recorded May 29 2001E1. (Drawing) Rings Around the WorldE2. Fragile HappinessE3. The Warmth of the SunE4. Run! Christian, Run!Live At Peel Acres, Recorded July 12 2001F1. (A) Touch SensitiveF2. ZoomF3. Nythod CacwnF4. Run! Christian, Run! F5. Fragile HappinessSFA Mash Up The CIA, Recorded December 20 1999 (Super Limited Vinyl, CD and Digital only)FF1. Wherever I Lay My Phone (That's My Home)FF2. Bad Behaviour
Evening Session, Recorded April 10 1996B1. Something For The WeekendB2. Hangin' With Howard MarksB3. If You Don't Want Me To Destroy YouB4. God! Show Me Magic
Evening Session, Recorded August 11 1997C1. The International Language of ScreamingC2. Torra Fy Ngwallt Yn HirC3. Play It CoolC4. DemonsC5. Calimero
John Peel Session, Recorded March 24 1998CH1. The TeacherCH2. Phire in my HeartCH3. Thue Turning TideCH4. Y Teimlad
Evening Session, Recorded June 2 1999D1. Night VisionD2. Some Things Come From NothingD3. Fire In My HeartD4. Blerwytirhwng?
John Peel Session, Recorded March 1 2000DD1. DX HeavenDD2. Ymaelody À'r YmylonDD3. Y Gwyneb IauDD4. Charge
Evening Session, Recorded May 29 2001E1. (Drawing) Rings Around the WorldE2. Fragile HappinessE3. The Warmth of the SunE4. Run! Christian, Run!
Live At Peel Acres, Recorded July 12 2001F1. (A) Touch SensitiveF2. ZoomF3. Nythod CacwnF4. Run! Christian, Run! F5. Fragile Happiness
SFA Mash Up The CIA, Recorded December 20 1999 (Super Limited Vinyl, CD and Digital only)FF1. Wherever I Lay My Phone (That's My Home)FF2. Bad Behaviour
― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 11 October 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link
and an ‘additional cut’ of soon-to-be-sought-after ‘SFA DNA’.
this is to be fur from the yeti outfits which has been embedded within the vinyl according to the PR I received earlier.
― mark e, Thursday, 11 October 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link
The Peel Session they did in between Phantom Power and Love Kraft is essential listening for anyone who likes this band. Great version of 'Run! Christian, Run!' on that and the version of 'Gathering Moss' is better than the one on Fuzzy Logic, IMO. That was probably the last time I thought this band could do no wrong, so I'm comfortable with there not being a new album.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 11 October 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link
'DX Heaven' is a bit disposable, so don't get too excited for that one. Interesting early version of 'Zoom' that I listened to a lot in the years leading up to Love Kraft.
― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 11 October 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link
I don't like that early version of 'Zoom' at all - I thought (for years) it was a bit of a half-baked riff in search of a tune and I thought they'd wisely shelved it as a bad idea. When I saw they'd dusted it off for Love Kraft I feared the worst but it turned out to be a drastic improvement.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 11 October 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link
I'm a bit shocked at how much the limited edition ended up selling for--£200! And it sold out in minutes. Can't spend that kind of money on something like this. At least you get a locket of yeti hair!
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 12 October 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link
Saw Gruff last night in DC and it was alot of fun. Only knew one song all night long but he is a pro and funny and his band was the same.
― tobo73, Friday, 12 October 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link
RATW finally getting a vinyl reissue. This has been the gaping hole in my collection, so I’m stoked. http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/super-furry-animals-rings-around-the-world-limited-2lp-coloured-vinyl-7/
― bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 11:50 (five years ago) link
Hm... semi-unauthorized. http://www.creation-records.com/super-furry-animals-rings-around-the-world-gets-a-reissue/
― bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 11:58 (five years ago) link
if it was the original album on Sides A-C with the b-sides on the D side I'd spring for it (so basically the tracklist of the US 2CD version except on vinyl), but the single-sided 7-inch idea is lame.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link
it’s seventeen years too late to complain, man
― Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link
I mean, they're doing a reissue in the present, so not really?
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
the 7” was part of the original LP
― Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link
(and “they” aren’t doing the reissue)
― Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link
"they" was meant for the folks at MOV. but fair enough, didn't know that re: the original pressing.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link
Don't worry, Kliph says they're doing their own reissue as well.
Oh, and they just released a new bobble hat. Not kidding.
What happened to this band? :(
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:06 (five years ago) link
Just a head's up: this is in no way authorized or approved by SFA. Music On Vinyl is a legitimate label and do license things properly (and do good work when given good sources to work from), but the band were unaware of the existence of this before someone tweeted Gruff a couple of hours ago. I called BMG, who also knew nothing about it and are annoyed as they're planning to a proper deluxified remaster/reissue when the time comes. BMG are working on tracking down who licensed it (must have been someone at Sony) and what their sources are for this reissue. Best case scenario, the original plates from 2001 still exist and were used, but those were done at CD resolution (44.1/16) and not from the original tapes, as the reissue BMG are planning will be, so buy at your own risk. Also, a repressing of the BBC box set is on the way. Details will be announced when dates are known.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link
don't look now, but this might not be the first item of merchandise they have ever released
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/3NUAAOSwBLlU5QDs/s-l300.jpg https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images2/360/1113/03/super-furry-animals-shirt_360_6c951ea5e9ad75da4306b063fd48d14a.jpg https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PKcAAOSw85Jbu7zW/s-l300.jpg https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/wpimages/images/images1/360/0215/16/360_d84747abf6933c127ea8109cd6abcf8c.jpg https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/360/0114/06/super-furry-animals-signed-shirt_360_741f13a90cf695a26e7415f4d23453ef.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wrX5xGV.jpg https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images2/360/0814/05/super-furry-animals-minger-vintage-uk_360_6bad00377f3f7f9d1a212d02f154d0b5.jpg https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/360/0814/05/super-furry-animals-minger-vintage-uk_360_6bad00377f3f7f9d1a212d02f154d0b5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/PD36AuP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/HnZkqLN.jpg
and even
― Bing The Mighty Seat (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link
hmm, try https://i.imgur.com/fZbkPqC.jpg
― Bing The Mighty Seat (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link
Yeah, “Side 4” is one of my fave runs of SFA songs, really. “Tradewinds” into “Roman Road” is phenomenal.
― bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link
Gruff wanted both of those tracks to be on the album proper, iirc, but others in the band disagreed.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link
don't look now, but this might not be the first item of merchandise they have ever released― Bing The Mighty Seat (sic)
― Bing The Mighty Seat (sic)
I can't really compare a band that's active and recording and touring new music to a band that releases a new bobble hat every quarter and hasn't released music in nearly a decade. But I guess i'm no longer their audience.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link
'Cuz that's what you're doing. If I'm not in the audience that desperately needs a new SFA bobble hat, I'm not sure who's left. I've spent more time thinking about this band and their plethora of side business than I should've, and I just find what they're doing very depressing now.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link
is the RATW era supposed to have had studio outtakes beyond the b-sides? I always thought RAtW sounded like a curated sampler pack from a more sprawling record.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link
I believe there are a couple tracks that showed up later on, like this Hey Venus!-era B-side:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NkXSd2scaY
I recall seeing the title on an early pre-release RATW track list.
They also claim 'Bing Bong' was conceived around then.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link
Yeah bit this is the bobble hat that broke the camel's back
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link
For Rings Around the World, I seem to recall that they recorded all the B-sides and album tracks in the same sessions, and then the final running order was a compromise. Every band member had a different preferred track order and even a different idea of what the LP was supposed to be. Again, Gruff wanted it to be an excessive 90+ minute experience but others in the band disagreed.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link
There were outtakes: 'Aluminium Illuminati' (as mentioned before), 'Sanitizzzed', 'The Undisputed Truth' etc. Some of these were released as B-sides later.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link
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Not quite, but it's a touch cynical for a band that was always boastful of their anti-materialist views.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:53 (five years ago) link
It's alright, though. You guys can have your bobble hats. I've been following them for years and I've just sort of given up on the hope they're a real band anymore.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link
It'd been nearly a DECADE since Dark Days/Light Years came out. This band used to release an album almost annually...
― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, September 27, 2018 6:08 AM (one month ago)
bands often release fewer new records after they split up
― Betting Eighty Hams (sic), Thursday, September 27, 2018 6:32 AM (one month ago)
standing by this
there was one guy wearing a SFA bobble hat at the Gruff/Kliph gig in Seattle last month. presumably the audience for new ones is people that still like their music, have disposable income and live somewhere cold.
― Bing The Mighty Seat (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 21:01 (five years ago) link
The BBC comp is out. Had a listen to the first part on Spotify and I’ve got to admit it’s really excellent.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 23 November 2018 22:13 (five years ago) link
Few more comments:
"God! Show Me Magic" on the tracklist three or four times somehow doesn't bother me. Song is as great as it's always been.
"DX Heaven" is completely disposable and I have to skip it every time it comes on.
My wife ruined "Calimero" for me. It borrows heavily from DK's "California Uber Alles." Ok, I still think "Calimero" kicks ass and will take it over the DKs song anyday.
Live bass on "Drawing Rings Around the World" is phenomenal.
The Mwng stuff sounds incredible.
― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 26 November 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link
Oh, and why the hell do they always blow guitar solos when they play live? They don't even do the greatest tiny solo of all time on the "Hometown Unicorn" recording.
― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 26 November 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link
My wife ruined "Calimero" for me. It borrows heavily from DK's "California Uber Alles."
It took you until recently to realise this? I thought this was common knowledge!
(I prefer 'Calimero')
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 26 November 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link
Nope. Had no idea. My wife told me immediately that it sounds like this 'California' song she knows and I kinda figured it out through a process of elimination. Knew it couldn't be RHCP...
― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 26 November 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link
They're really not that similar.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link
Gruff admitted the influence of that track on 'Calimero' decades ago.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 26 November 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link
The whole song's not the same, but the 'Calimero calimero' bit is IDENTICAL to 'California Uber Alles.'
― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 26 November 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link