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Anyway it's less the cashgrabbing that's the issue - people can spend money on what they want - it's the stultifying crassness of all this self-celebration, this recycling

imago, Thursday, 27 September 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link

I mean Kliph worked his way into being a member of The Flaming Lips by virtue of being a mega-fan and a really good drummer. I don't find it hard to believe at all he begged SFA to be their official historian and archivist. It's the way this stuff is being promoted, and the timing, that has made me lose interest. Well, I'll try not to bump this thread with the next warmed-over release. I think I've learned my lesson. All the same, I'm sure some will enjoy this release.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 27 September 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link

The frustrating thing is that I reckon they have another good album in them somewhere

imago, Thursday, 27 September 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link

The more I look at the package, the more I want it. The artwork is sublime. Mark James & Pete Fowler are amazing. I would happily slot that in next to the rest of their albums. I just don't really want or need a bunch of live sessions...

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 28 September 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

it's the stultifying crassness of all this self-celebration, this recycling


It's clear that the solo projects are more of a priority (Gruff live at the RNCM a couple of weeks ago was brilliant).

I'd like another new album but since most on this list are of the view that each new album after RATW was a downgrade in quality is that what you're after imago?

I listened through the Radiator reissue yesterday and while it wasn't earth shattering in content it did do a nice job of pulling together all the other material from that era.

I get your frustration I think but to dismiss the BBC box in the same bracket as the reissues is short sighted as the radio sessions have ttbomk never been officially released. The recordings I've got are either ones I made myself or ones shared on a long lost ftp site linked to the old SFA message board.

The Peel Acres session is top drawer. Has a great version of Run Christian Run after which JP extols the pedal steel. Re: the box set though I'd have loved to see the full Cardiff concert released. The 'SFA Mash up the CIA' boot is excellent.

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Sunday, 30 September 2018 06:41 (five years ago) link

I thought DD/LY was arguably the best one since RATW! Otherwise....fair, I suppose

imago, Sunday, 30 September 2018 10:00 (five years ago) link

i don't think i've listened to phantom power in ten years but my god "piccolo snare" -> "venus and serena"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 September 2018 13:11 (five years ago) link

Maybe they need to make a cash grab *because* they turned down that 2 million pound payoff?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 September 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link

(This doesn't sound like a cash grab, fwiw, just a small thing for fans who want to buy something, like a souvenir.)

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 September 2018 13:23 (five years ago) link

when the person who is doing all the work on the release has explained that it is moderately likely to make a loss, you can probably stop insisting it's a cash grab

Ah, the minty egg bits (sic), Sunday, 30 September 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link

There was a period where their social media seemed to be exclusively for flogging new T-shirts and ski caps. I think that’s what caused some of the negativity on the Net.

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 30 September 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link

They were also g

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 30 September 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link

Haven't really seen a ton of negativity outside of this thread tbh

PaulTMA, Sunday, 30 September 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link

There are pockets of it 'in the community.' That said, the community is very small. I think overall people are happy they're still active in some way. I'd take a tour of any of their material in a heartbeat. I just wish DD/LY would get its due from them.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 1 October 2018 14:29 (five years ago) link

Y'know, if he's going to do more of this stuff, maybe I'm ok with the way things are going:

.@cianciaran fought a giant billion £ multi-national in @edfenergy for Wales. Both parties agreed to discontinue today, after it was agreed that the @AssemblyWales will debate & vote on a motion to stop the dumping next Wednesday 10th October.

— Neil McEvoy AM (@neiljmcevoy) October 2, 2018

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/02/hinkley-point-c-nuclear-mud-case-dropped-after-debate-secured

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link

https://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/220403/9

'Super Furry Animals at the BBC'

Mark Radcliffe Session, Recorded April 1 1996
A1. God! Show Me Magic
A2. Frisbee
A3. Hometown Unicorn
A4. Focus Pocus/Debiel

Evening Session, Recorded April 10 1996
B1. Something For The Weekend
B2. Hangin' With Howard Marks
B3. If You Don't Want Me To Destroy You
B4. God! Show Me Magic

Evening Session, Recorded August 11 1997
C1. The International Language of Screaming
C2. Torra Fy Ngwallt Yn Hir
C3. Play It Cool
C4. Demons
C5. Calimero

John Peel Session, Recorded March 24 1998
CH1. The Teacher
CH2. Phire in my Heart
CH3. Thue Turning Tide
CH4. Y Teimlad

Evening Session, Recorded June 2 1999
D1. Night Vision
D2. Some Things Come From Nothing
D3. Fire In My Heart
D4. Blerwytirhwng?

John Peel Session, Recorded March 1 2000
DD1. DX Heaven
DD2. Ymaelody À'r Ymylon
DD3. Y Gwyneb Iau
DD4. Charge

Evening Session, Recorded May 29 2001
E1. (Drawing) Rings Around the World
E2. Fragile Happiness
E3. The Warmth of the Sun
E4. Run! Christian, Run!

Live At Peel Acres, Recorded July 12 2001
F1. (A) Touch Sensitive
F2. Zoom
F3. Nythod Cacwn
F4. Run! Christian, Run!
F5. Fragile Happiness

SFA Mash Up The CIA, Recorded December 20 1999 (Super Limited Vinyl, CD and Digital only)
FF1. Wherever I Lay My Phone (That's My Home)
FF2. Bad Behaviour

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 11 October 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link

and an ‘additional cut’ of soon-to-be-sought-after ‘SFA DNA’.

this is to be fur from the yeti outfits which has been embedded within the vinyl according to the PR I received earlier.

mark e, Thursday, 11 October 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link

The Peel Session they did in between Phantom Power and Love Kraft is essential listening for anyone who likes this band. Great version of 'Run! Christian, Run!' on that and the version of 'Gathering Moss' is better than the one on Fuzzy Logic, IMO. That was probably the last time I thought this band could do no wrong, so I'm comfortable with there not being a new album.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 11 October 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link

'DX Heaven' is a bit disposable, so don't get too excited for that one. Interesting early version of 'Zoom' that I listened to a lot in the years leading up to Love Kraft.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 11 October 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link

I don't like that early version of 'Zoom' at all - I thought (for years) it was a bit of a half-baked riff in search of a tune and I thought they'd wisely shelved it as a bad idea. When I saw they'd dusted it off for Love Kraft I feared the worst but it turned out to be a drastic improvement.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 11 October 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link

I'm a bit shocked at how much the limited edition ended up selling for--£200! And it sold out in minutes. Can't spend that kind of money on something like this. At least you get a locket of yeti hair!

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 12 October 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link

Saw Gruff last night in DC and it was alot of fun. Only knew one song all night long but he is a pro and funny and his band was the same.

tobo73, Friday, 12 October 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

RATW finally getting a vinyl reissue. This has been the gaping hole in my collection, so I’m stoked. http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/super-furry-animals-rings-around-the-world-limited-2lp-coloured-vinyl-7/

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 11:50 (five years ago) link

if it was the original album on Sides A-C with the b-sides on the D side I'd spring for it (so basically the tracklist of the US 2CD version except on vinyl), but the single-sided 7-inch idea is lame.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link

it’s seventeen years too late to complain, man

Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link

I mean, they're doing a reissue in the present, so not really?

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link

the 7” was part of the original LP

Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link

(and “they” aren’t doing the reissue)

Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link

"they" was meant for the folks at MOV. but fair enough, didn't know that re: the original pressing.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link

Don't worry, Kliph says they're doing their own reissue as well.

Oh, and they just released a new bobble hat. Not kidding.

What happened to this band? :(

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:06 (five years ago) link

Just a head's up: this is in no way authorized or approved by SFA. Music On Vinyl is a legitimate label and do license things properly (and do good work when given good sources to work from), but the band were unaware of the existence of this before someone tweeted Gruff a couple of hours ago. I called BMG, who also knew nothing about it and are annoyed as they're planning to a proper deluxified remaster/reissue when the time comes. BMG are working on tracking down who licensed it (must have been someone at Sony) and what their sources are for this reissue. Best case scenario, the original plates from 2001 still exist and were used, but those were done at CD resolution (44.1/16) and not from the original tapes, as the reissue BMG are planning will be, so buy at your own risk.
 Also, a repressing of the BBC box set is on the way. Details will be announced when dates are known.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link

hmm, try https://i.imgur.com/fZbkPqC.jpg

Bing The Mighty Seat (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link

Yeah, “Side 4” is one of my fave runs of SFA songs, really. “Tradewinds” into “Roman Road” is phenomenal.

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link

Gruff wanted both of those tracks to be on the album proper, iirc, but others in the band disagreed.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

don't look now, but this might not be the first item of merchandise they have ever released

― Bing The Mighty Seat (sic)

I can't really compare a band that's active and recording and touring new music to a band that releases a new bobble hat every quarter and hasn't released music in nearly a decade. But I guess i'm no longer their audience.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link

'Cuz that's what you're doing. If I'm not in the audience that desperately needs a new SFA bobble hat, I'm not sure who's left. I've spent more time thinking about this band and their plethora of side business than I should've, and I just find what they're doing very depressing now.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link

is the RATW era supposed to have had studio outtakes beyond the b-sides? I always thought RAtW sounded like a curated sampler pack from a more sprawling record.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link

I believe there are a couple tracks that showed up later on, like this Hey Venus!-era B-side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NkXSd2scaY

I recall seeing the title on an early pre-release RATW track list.

They also claim 'Bing Bong' was conceived around then.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link

Yeah bit this is the bobble hat that broke the camel's back

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

For Rings Around the World, I seem to recall that they recorded all the B-sides and album tracks in the same sessions, and then the final running order was a compromise. Every band member had a different preferred track order and even a different idea of what the LP was supposed to be. Again, Gruff wanted it to be an excessive 90+ minute experience but others in the band disagreed.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link

There were outtakes: 'Aluminium Illuminati' (as mentioned before), 'Sanitizzzed', 'The Undisputed Truth' etc. Some of these were released as B-sides later.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link

Yeah bit this is the bobble hat that broke the camel's back

― PaulTMA, Wednesday, November 14, 2018 3:32 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not quite, but it's a touch cynical for a band that was always boastful of their anti-materialist views.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:53 (five years ago) link

It's alright, though. You guys can have your bobble hats. I've been following them for years and I've just sort of given up on the hope they're a real band anymore.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link

It'd been nearly a DECADE since Dark Days/Light Years came out. This band used to release an album almost annually...

― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, September 27, 2018 6:08 AM (one month ago)

bands often release fewer new records after they split up

― Betting Eighty Hams (sic), Thursday, September 27, 2018 6:32 AM (one month ago)

standing by this

there was one guy wearing a SFA bobble hat at the Gruff/Kliph gig in Seattle last month. presumably the audience for new ones is people that still like their music, have disposable income and live somewhere cold.

Bing The Mighty Seat (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 21:01 (five years ago) link

The BBC comp is out. Had a listen to the first part on Spotify and I’ve got to admit it’s really excellent.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 23 November 2018 22:13 (five years ago) link

Few more comments:

"God! Show Me Magic" on the tracklist three or four times somehow doesn't bother me. Song is as great as it's always been.

"DX Heaven" is completely disposable and I have to skip it every time it comes on.

My wife ruined "Calimero" for me. It borrows heavily from DK's "California Uber Alles." Ok, I still think "Calimero" kicks ass and will take it over the DKs song anyday.

Live bass on "Drawing Rings Around the World" is phenomenal.

The Mwng stuff sounds incredible.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 26 November 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link

Oh, and why the hell do they always blow guitar solos when they play live? They don't even do the greatest tiny solo of all time on the "Hometown Unicorn" recording.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 26 November 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link

My wife ruined "Calimero" for me. It borrows heavily from DK's "California Uber Alles."

It took you until recently to realise this? I thought this was common knowledge!

(I prefer 'Calimero')

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 26 November 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link


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