pinegrove: cardinal

yeah I hadn't thought of it until I noticed that they "broke" the album release news with that story. pretty dodgy move for a story crying out for straightforward writing

https://pinegrove.bandcamp.com/album/skylight

my position on this has evolved from "... ok" to "no thank you"

fyi I listened to this band's bandcamp page and they are awful

on the contrary, Cardinal is one of the best rock records of the decade

Truth, Alpine

began to read this piece a couple of days ago and got as far as "inchoate meaning" lmao

i'm a skeptic on these guys but giving it a listen and not sure having "shelved for a year" attached to this album is going to do it any favors.

I had a lot of trouble trying to read this & im not sure why

First listen through and I'm a bit meh, though it's probably a grower.

The sub-two minute songs aren't bangers like Problems and Angelina were.

The re-recording of Angelina doesn't add much.

i'm sorry but why is this on streaming

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I don't understand the question either.

Also unsure

it's just weird to suddenly decide to make money off a record the proceeds of which you were donating to charity

anyway sorry, clearly i'm more mad about this than other people

oh, ok. I wasn't sure if you thought it shouldn't stream in general, which was weird because it streams on bandcamp as well, I think?

How do we know they're not also donating streaming funds?

we don’t. it’d be nice if they said anything

then again maybe the last thing i should expect from this band is a clear statement

Idk "all proceeds" would seem to imply charity will get that $12.50

ok

well they've certainly earned the benefit of the doubt!

wait, the p4k article only mentions bandcamp sales-- have they written it anywhere else w/o that stipulation besides the bandcamp page itself?

I don't know. I've seen many "bandcamp proceeds" in older articles, but that could just be that it was exclusively there for awhile. A clarifying statement or just being clear about your plan makes sense, and I get Brad's frustration over it. Then again, saying "we are doing a bandcamp exclusive for the first week with all proceeds to charity. then we'll release everywhere." would no doubt hurt those first sales for charity.

the p4k review says just "sales"

"The band will donate all proceeds from Bandcamp sales of Skylight to three charities"

oh nvm sorry reread that. hm

sorry, review says "The band and label mutually agreed that Pinegrove would self-release Skylight and donate the proceeds to charity."

i, uh, liked this a lot. "skylight" is a beautiful song

thanks for trying to find some kind of consistent language everyone but it’s fine, it doesn’t matter, the rehabilitation is complete and i have to stop caring

does it matter at all that the rehabilitation, as it were, was coordinated w/ the victim

i’m not getting into it

Yeah most of the tracks are growing on me quite a bit.

And for me it's more than generous enough to give the sales to charity even without streaming revenues, it's still a job for them. Plus I often won't buy something without discovering it via streaming it first.

having read about this situation, what has the pinegrove guy done wrong except break up a relationship that was probably going to break up anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AakhvdAW2o

no way are they donating streaming $ to charity. someone should ask them, if they are donating it I'm sure they'd be happy to answer.

well they'd better donate all or none of it so we can be sure if they're good people or not

i would like to apologize for starting this

we wanna announce that we’ll be playing a small run of shows towards the end of this year! tickets go on sale today at noon EST in the US and are on sale now in Europe. here’s the info:

November 23 – Montclair, NJ – The Guild Room at First Congregational Church
November 24 – Cambridge, MA – The Sinclair
November 26 – Brooklyn, NY – Music Hall of Williamsburg

December 1 – Amsterdam, NL – Sugar Factory
December 3 – Berlin, DE – Cassiopeia
December 5 – Bristol, UK – Thekla
December 6 – London, UK – The Garage

December 12 – San Francisco, CA – Great American Music Hall
December 14 – West Hollywood, CA – Troubadour

the safety of our fans is a priority and we wanna emphasize our commitment to making sure everyone is as comfortable as possible at our shows. with that in mind, we’ll be partnering with organizations and volunteers trained in active bystander intervention in each city. more details on that to come.

tickets will be available at pinegroveband.com/tour. we’ll be donating a portion of profits from each ticket sale to planned parenthood.

welp, this thread - once teeming with enthusiasm for its namesake band - lies in tatters and neglect.

also, the new Pinegrove album is good.

cardinal is still special, skylight was disappointing even if you disregard all the...stuff. i haven't gotten around to the new album yet.

totally agree, though i think i liked Skylight more than you. (can barely remember Marigold, however.)

the new one isn't Cardinal either, but it's good.