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i actually listened to wild honey in its entirety just now - it's short - and by the time i got to "how she boogalooed it" i was _still_ going "what the fuck is this? what the fuck are you even doing?" which is why i like the beach boys, but not everyone is into that sort of thing.

Got me into Kate Bush:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o712mgqVZXI

xp The songs on Wild Honey are fairly straightforward, though? Maybe just a bit "off," in certain ways?

hey rushomancy -- I'd love just once to see you... in the nuuuuuude

ilxors who almost make u wanna go homo

noel gallagher plays guigsys bass parts and boneheads rhythm parts on the albums fyis just sayin

Years ago I had a listen to the Purple Rain deluxe and then it struck me why I'd never cared much for Prince's music when I was growing up in the '80s (the only album I have and like very much is Lovesexy) and later on as well: all his music and lyrics seem to be about "me, me, me". Nothing in his music seems applicable to my own modest life. And his lyrics are way trivial. Even if Bowie or Simon Le Bon are spouting nonsense, that nonsense could be romanticised and applied to a higher plain. Not so with Prince (that I've heard).

personally, I identify with drinking banana daquiris til I'm blind every xmas

Macca also has no front-to-back great albums, with the possible exception of "Ram"

Prince has, idk, three? SOTT, 1999, Purple Rain

I'd add Dirty Mind to that list.

You don't think "Band on the Run" is front-to-back great? I guess I can see seeing "Picasso's Last Words" as the weak point there.

ooh yeah not a bad track on Dirty Mind, fair enough

Back to Beach Boys -- just revisited Friends (after revisiting Wild Honey) last night)... gawd, this string of albums is so excellent. Warm, creative, unexpected, great tunes, lyrics only these guys could write, etc.

(Tried listening to Pet Sounds but quickly got bored, lol)

Halfway thru 20/20 now... it's even better than I remember!

Zig Zag Walk is my favorite Foghat album.

Ambient music is the only worthwhile music

Ha I've been feeling that

In my late teens when I was first confronted with ambient music I thought "there is nothing going on. Boring!" When confronted with Stockhausen I thought "this is a collection of sounds. Boring!" I don't know whether it's aural exhaustion, or the fact that "music-with-content is now occupational", but ambient music and electroacoustic music is pretty much my go-to for pleasure-listening. Stockhausen et al. is extremely pleasant to listen to while preparing dinner, the sound of chopping veg. and frying oil fits right in with the music itself.

extremely pleasant to listen to while preparing dinner, the sound of chopping veg

Nah, I prefer https://youtu.be/WR6y71x3tSY

I don't like you if you have over a hundred 5.0 ratings on RYM

― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, September 20, 2018 1:58 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm going to raise the number to two hundred

I often prefer the clean radio versions of '90s hip-hop singles/hits to the album versions. Specific examples that have occurred to me just this past week: Mystikal's "Shake It Fast," Juvenile's "Back That Thang Up," the clean version of Dre's "Next Episode," the clean version of Jay-Z's "Can I Get a ... " etc.

Yeah, I will always enjoy (prefer?) the Wu's 'swords slashing' sounds on the edited versions I heard first

Ambient music is the only worthwhile music

I'll put this here: Everyone Says I Love You, Woody Allen's musical comedy starring Edward Norton, Drew Barrymore, Alan Alda and Julia Roberts, is underrated

skip spence's "oar" -- over-romanticized obscurist sham

Totally agree with that one.

Yes, a few of us were just saying this on the dedicated Oar thread

Not so controversial after all!

Ambient music is the only worthwhile music

― groovemaaan, Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:55 PM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

been feeling this a lot lately too lol

Lingua Ignota's All Bitches Die is an infinitely more moving and important feminist statement than anything Beyoncé has ever done.

the standard for controversy: “i don’t like beyoncé”

So it appears.

I'd be happy if it were no longer controversial.

I keep wanting to say something about preferring Destiny's Child but I'd need to actually listen to a solo Beyoncé album to form that opinion, at which point the mental terrorists would have already won.

"I Gotta Feeling" is a classic track that will still get people moving at parties thirty years from now with uncomplicated joy

(Controversial on ILX? Not sure. Came #12 in 2009 tracks poll but was loudly clowned in thread and nobody owned to voting for it)

OK well there was this

on the "obnoxious" pop song, i definitely find that songs that seem unbearable during their initial go-round sometimes strike me more favorably a year or two or five later -- when they've faded from ubiquity and i realize (usually reluctantly) that even while consciously hating them i was unconsciously absorbing them through massive exposure and now they light up my neural pathways even if i don't want them to. it almost seems like a biological response to me, but the net result is that i end up "liking" something that i used to "hate."

― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, February 1, 2010 11:50 PM (eight years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(that may eventually prove true of "i gotta feeling," but it's too soon to say. i'm still in resistance mode.)

― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, February 1, 2010 11:51 PM (eight years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This thread (+ Sound on Sound) are getting me to listen to the Carters album anyway.

(Other future classics: Chainsmokers - "Closer", Imagine Dragons - "Thunder". I hate "I Gotta Feeling" but you're probably right about it.)

"I Gotta Feeling" is a classic track that will still get people moving at parties thirty years from now with uncomplicated joy

it's a wedding song now, so yes, you're absolutely right

don't think it's a particularly controversial stance though

I Gotta Feeling gets played on regular rotation at the commercial radio station I work for. Even on Monday mornings(!)

(Other future classics: Chainsmokers - "Closer", Imagine Dragons - "Thunder". I hate "I Gotta Feeling" but you're probably right about it.)

I also hate "I Gotta Feeling" but I'd take it over the other two in a heartbeat

i gotta feeling already has 'classic' status yeah and im way more sympathetic to it than i was when it came out, though its still not great

i could imagine closer having that sort of status in the future (ugh) but i really doubt imagine dragons will be strongly remembered

Ambient music is the only worthwhile music

― groovemaaan, Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:55 PM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

been feeling this a lot lately too lol

― marcos, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 9:47 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Counterpoint: given the advances in recording technology, it is almost impossible to tell a classic 'ambient' piece by one of the greats from something a stoned guy does in an afternoon with a polysynth and some guitar pedals, and people who claim they can tell the difference are often lying

Lingua Ignota's All Bitches Die

This is indeed an amazing album and everyone should hear it

Well so maybe I should be clear that my controversial opinion isn't a grudging "I guess it's settled, this song is not going to be forgotten, people are going to like it forever" but rather "this song is a towering achievement that will stand the test of time because it's such an unimpeachable banger"

I also love Boom Boom Pow and Imma Bee.

Counterpoint: given the advances in recording technology, it is almost impossible to tell a classic 'ambient' piece by one of the greats from something a stoned guy does in an afternoon with a polysynth and some guitar pedals, and people who claim they can tell the difference are often lying

― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 11:39 AM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

imo the difference doesn't matter. who gives a shit

This is indeed an amazing album and everyone should hear it

― jmm

everyone should also be smacked in the face with a rusty shovel

Thunder wont make the cut even 5 years from now, it’s not a good party song. I’ll up the bet, as someone living in latinamerica we have 10+ hour weddings over here and you can tell which english-spoken songs will be classics if they get played over here. If they make it out of the US/UK they have trascended language and will probably become classics. Small caveat: there needs to be a break from listening the song for a couple of years. Despacito and Shape of You made it all around the q

/Ambient music is the only worthwhile music

― groovemaaan, Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:55 PM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

been feeling this a lot lately too lol

― marcos, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 9:47 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink/

Counterpoint: given the advances in recording technology, it is almost impossible to tell a classic 'ambient' piece by one of the greats from something a stoned guy does in an afternoon with a polysynth and some guitar pedals, and people who claim they can tell the difference are often lying

... all around the globe but noone wants to listen to them ever again in any type of party until 2025 probably

Counterpoint: given the advances in recording technology, it is almost impossible to tell a classic 'ambient' piece by one of the greats from something a stoned guy does in an afternoon with a polysynth and some guitar pedals, and people who claim they can tell the difference are often lying

― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 8:39 AM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

counterpoint: who gives a shiiiiit