xp lol i'm a big fan of Friends, but calling "Transcendental Meditation" great is a strech imo
― tylerw, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link
it'll get you feelin grand maaaan
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
There are definitely no dud tracks on "Smiley Smile", that's for sure.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link
never forget
― ilxor-com-dog-meat-drawer-7-840-x-600.jpg (unregistered), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link
LOL, classic ILM.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link
I consider those threads my crowning achievement as an ILM poll starter
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link
lol good stuff, in general i think more worst tracks threads would be good tbh
― sweetheart of the Neo Geo (Ross), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link
few acts' output span the dizzying highs and appalling lows of the Beach Boys tho
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
On the Corner >>>>>>>>>>> any Can album
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link
Not controversial imho.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link
Any Can album >>>>>>>>>>> On the Corner
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link
... maybe not, but "On the Corner" is hideously overrated.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link
― flappy bird, Tuesday, September 25, 2018 6:16 PM (forty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Not controversial, just silly. Different ballgames, man.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link
A lot of Miles from that period does sound like Can, and vice versa, so it's not a different ballgame by any means.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
yeah there's a lot of similar techniques involved - extended ng groove-based improvisations, aggressive editing and electronic processing, incorporation of non-Western instrumentation
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link
Different strokes I guess. Similar techniques may be involved. MD and Can come from such different cores towards a somewhat similar sound at one point in time, but I cannot 'forget' the traveled trajectory, or their make-up, which is so vastly different. I can see why one sees it as the same ballgame - I might even be jealous of people seeing it that way, for I cannot.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link
Stockhausen is another link.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link
That's a very good call.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link
the Prince hagiography is getting to be a bit much
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link
if anything it's not enough
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:14 (five years ago) link
That ain't Lake Minnetonka!
― growing up in publix (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link
the thing with Prince is, it's really not hyperbole to point out how comprehensive and sui generis he was. There's literally no one else that's ever had his combo of skills and hit-making ability. At least not that I can think of ie., virtuoso multi-instrumentalists/producers with a sustained string of classic (and popular) albums over the course of a decade.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link
Joni comes (kind of) close, although I've never thought she was all that incredible a pianist/synth player
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link
also couldn't play drums afaik
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link
but could he play the mandolin as well as peter buck
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link
hell, I can play the mandolin as well as peter buck
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link
Love Joni but Prince laps her several times in terms of sheer skill and virtuosity. But Shakey 100% OTM that the Prince hagiography isn't nearly as strong or widespread as it should be. Bowie is the one that's getting tiresome - are we going to be hearing choral covers of "'Heroes'" in movies, shows, and commercials forever now?
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link
ye
― sweetheart of the Neo Geo (Ross), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link
the Bowie and Prince love can flow eternal, keep it coming.
― omar little, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
hunky dory changed my life
― ritual showdown (Ross), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
I will always love Bowie but Prince was a different animal imo. I don't think anyone would credibly argue that Bowie was an amazing instrumentalist - he was good enough to put his songs over and smart enough to rely on virtuoso collaborators to flesh things out instead. And while he was a good vocalist (again, making the best of his natural limits), he sure as shit didn't have Prince's range. On the whole I'd say he was maybe a better lyricist than Prince.
Prince is maybe the only guy I can think of that seems literally inhuman from a performance standpoint. Peak period live footage is on some "how does one person DO that" level shit. And he could do all that and still be funny/make it look easy.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link
but did prince write fantastic voyage
― ritual showdown (Ross), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:58 (five years ago) link
music is how it makes you feel, mannn :P
Mitchell's main instrument isn't piano, although she's much better than competent: it's guitar, where her chords are amazing.
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link
Stevie Wonder
― nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link
Are we really comparing Prince and Bowie now? For the love of god why.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link
Never forget this classic thread:
TS: Prince or Bowie?
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link
absolutely otm LBI
― ritual showdown (Ross), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link
― nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Tuesday, September 25, 2018 5:59 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
all of this also applies to Paul McCartney
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link
Stevie's close, yeah. if only he could play guitar.
Macca = lol gtfo
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link
kate bush!
― ritual showdown (Ross), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link
jesus...really...
Macca's a virtuoso on one instrument and we all know which one that is
LOL
― ritual showdown (Ross), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, September 25, 2018 5:59 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
they’re both dead
― flopson, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link
Also, until he died, I had never met anyone who had bought a Prince album after Under The Cherry Moon or D&P
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link
fwiw, for me, Prince solo >>> Macca solo but like it or not the comparison is apt
it's true Prince was much better when he was in the Beatles
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:09 (five years ago) link
― Οὖτις
yeah, he's fantastic on lead guitar
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:13 (five years ago) link
― Paul Ponzi,
Because they were two years old?
You moved goalposts. You knew no one who bought SOOT or Parade?
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link