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xp lol i'm a big fan of Friends, but calling "Transcendental Meditation" great is a strech imo

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link

it'll get you feelin grand maaaan

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link

There are definitely no dud tracks on "Smiley Smile", that's for sure.

Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

never forget

ilxor-com-dog-meat-drawer-7-840-x-600.jpg (unregistered), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link

LOL, classic ILM.

Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

I consider those threads my crowning achievement as an ILM poll starter

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link

lol good stuff, in general i think more worst tracks threads would be good tbh

sweetheart of the Neo Geo (Ross), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link

few acts' output span the dizzying highs and appalling lows of the Beach Boys tho

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link

On the Corner >>>>>>>>>>> any Can album

flappy bird, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link

Not controversial imho.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link

Any Can album >>>>>>>>>>> On the Corner

Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link

... maybe not, but "On the Corner" is hideously overrated.

Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link

On the Corner >>>>>>>>>>> any Can album

― flappy bird, Tuesday, September 25, 2018 6:16 PM (forty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not controversial, just silly. Different ballgames, man.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link

A lot of Miles from that period does sound like Can, and vice versa, so it's not a different ballgame by any means.

Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link

yeah there's a lot of similar techniques involved - extended ng groove-based improvisations, aggressive editing and electronic processing, incorporation of non-Western instrumentation

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

Different strokes I guess. Similar techniques may be involved. MD and Can come from such different cores towards a somewhat similar sound at one point in time, but I cannot 'forget' the traveled trajectory, or their make-up, which is so vastly different. I can see why one sees it as the same ballgame - I might even be jealous of people seeing it that way, for I cannot.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link

Stockhausen is another link.

Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

That's a very good call.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link

the Prince hagiography is getting to be a bit much

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

if anything it's not enough

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:14 (five years ago) link

That ain't Lake Minnetonka!

growing up in publix (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link

the thing with Prince is, it's really not hyperbole to point out how comprehensive and sui generis he was. There's literally no one else that's ever had his combo of skills and hit-making ability. At least not that I can think of ie., virtuoso multi-instrumentalists/producers with a sustained string of classic (and popular) albums over the course of a decade.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link

Joni comes (kind of) close, although I've never thought she was all that incredible a pianist/synth player

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link

also couldn't play drums afaik

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

but could he play the mandolin as well as peter buck

mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

hell, I can play the mandolin as well as peter buck

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link

Love Joni but Prince laps her several times in terms of sheer skill and virtuosity. But Shakey 100% OTM that the Prince hagiography isn't nearly as strong or widespread as it should be. Bowie is the one that's getting tiresome - are we going to be hearing choral covers of "'Heroes'" in movies, shows, and commercials forever now?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link

ye

sweetheart of the Neo Geo (Ross), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link

the Bowie and Prince love can flow eternal, keep it coming.

omar little, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link

hunky dory changed my life

ritual showdown (Ross), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link

I will always love Bowie but Prince was a different animal imo. I don't think anyone would credibly argue that Bowie was an amazing instrumentalist - he was good enough to put his songs over and smart enough to rely on virtuoso collaborators to flesh things out instead. And while he was a good vocalist (again, making the best of his natural limits), he sure as shit didn't have Prince's range. On the whole I'd say he was maybe a better lyricist than Prince.

Prince is maybe the only guy I can think of that seems literally inhuman from a performance standpoint. Peak period live footage is on some "how does one person DO that" level shit. And he could do all that and still be funny/make it look easy.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link

but did prince write fantastic voyage

ritual showdown (Ross), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:58 (five years ago) link

music is how it makes you feel, mannn :P

ritual showdown (Ross), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:58 (five years ago) link

Mitchell's main instrument isn't piano, although she's much better than competent: it's guitar, where her chords are amazing.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

the thing with Prince is, it's really not hyperbole to point out how comprehensive and sui generis he was. There's literally no one else that's ever had his combo of skills and hit-making ability. At least not that I can think of ie., virtuoso multi-instrumentalists/producers with a sustained string of classic (and popular) albums over the course of a decade.

Stevie Wonder

nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

Are we really comparing Prince and Bowie now? For the love of god why.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

Never forget this classic thread:

TS: Prince or Bowie?

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link

absolutely otm LBI

ritual showdown (Ross), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link

the thing with Prince is, it's really not hyperbole to point out how comprehensive and sui generis he was. There's literally no one else that's ever had his combo of skills and hit-making ability. At least not that I can think of ie., virtuoso multi-instrumentalists/producers with a sustained string of classic (and popular) albums over the course of a decade.

Stevie Wonder

― nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Tuesday, September 25, 2018 5:59 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

all of this also applies to Paul McCartney

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

Stevie Wonder

Stevie's close, yeah. if only he could play guitar.

Macca = lol gtfo

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

kate bush!

ritual showdown (Ross), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

jesus...really...

ritual showdown (Ross), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

Macca's a virtuoso on one instrument and we all know which one that is

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

LOL

ritual showdown (Ross), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link

Are we really comparing Prince and Bowie now? For the love of god why.

― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, September 25, 2018 5:59 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they’re both dead

flopson, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link

Also, until he died, I had never met anyone who had bought a Prince album after Under The Cherry Moon or D&P

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

fwiw, for me, Prince solo >>> Macca solo but like it or not the comparison is apt

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

it's true Prince was much better when he was in the Beatles

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:09 (five years ago) link

Macca's a virtuoso on one instrument and we all know which one that is

― Οὖτις

yeah, he's fantastic on lead guitar

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:13 (five years ago) link

Also, until he died, I had never met anyone who had bought a Prince album after Under The Cherry Moon or D&P

― Paul Ponzi,

Because they were two years old?

You moved goalposts. You knew no one who bought SOOT or Parade?

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link


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