Talking Heads- Classic or Dud?

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But there you go, mystery solved.

Not necessarily...Ed Stasium posted the following on the Electrical Audio forum in 2009:
https://www.electricalaudio.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=46055

Re: The Talking Heads bass blasphemy

Postby Ed Stasium on Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:10 pm
A pal of mine informed me of this discussion....

This will be brief...I want to set the record straight about Tina playing on TH77. At the sessions Bongiovi would show up once in a while and when he did he would proceed to the lounge and read airplane magazines. [Engineer] Lance [Quinn] was there most of the time, I was the only person involved in the recording of the project who was there for every minute of the process. Tina played bass on the ENTIRE LP, Bob Babbitt did come in and overdub on one or maybe two songs but at the mixing stage I did not put Babbitt's bass up in the mix and the "producers" knew none the better! I seem to recall that I may have "Ghosted" Bob on the chorus (for effect) of "Love Has Come To Town" under Tina's bass for alas, I was WAY on the band's side.

David could not stand Bongiovi and did not want him present whilst he recorded vocals, David informed me of this and I was the one who broke the news to Bongiovi (who did not care). Jerry has since remixed all of the Band's LPs for 5.1 etc. and he would be the one to know (from the track sheets) which of the tracks Bob played on. But geez, it's been 32 years....c'mon!

Oh... and as for the Bongiovi quotes in Greg Milner's "History" My lovely wife Amy found the book and the first thing she did was read me several paragraphs and I choked on the tremendous amount of BULLSHIT squatted out by Bongiovi! Mr. Milner should get a truthful source for the addendum that should be added to that chapter. I manned any razor blade that was wielded on "Psycho Killer" (at the band's request), and there are no fucking TYMPANI on "Sheena".

The only person who did not know what was going on during those sessions was Bongiovi himself.......I suppose I could go on but I must prepare dinner!

Drinks for my friends!.....cheers.....ed

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 24 September 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link

nice

growing up in publix (morrisp), Monday, 24 September 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link

That does confirm Bob was on there, though he's not credited. Like a lot of these semi-apocryphal session stories, there's a chance he is on there but barely on there, or no one remembers where or what or whatever. Everyone's right!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 September 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

Was just listening to J. Geils Band, and hmm, around 3 minutes in this sounds a bit like a precursor to Crosseyed and Painless:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDU3evB5_K8

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 March 2019 00:02 (five years ago) link

Wow, nice catch

flappy bird, Monday, 11 March 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link

Heard that song many times, but never connected

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 11 March 2019 21:01 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

Same

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 21 September 2019 12:19 (four years ago) link

It sounds like a Can rip to me, but who knows

fgti (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 21 September 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

honestly it sounds kinda like the doobie brothers

i'm not a garbageman i am garbage, man. let me handle my garbage, damn (m bison), Saturday, 21 September 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

if you ask a 60+ year old American white man who writes novels what he's been listening to, 9 times out of 10 he starts telling you how great Fear of Music is

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 21 September 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link

I need to find some of those guys then, cuz no one ever seems to know / want to talk about that particular album!

#YABASIC (morrisp), Saturday, 21 September 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link

60+ year old American white men who write novels OTM

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 21 September 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

jonathan lethem is 55.

Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 21 September 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfl3N9nesRg

classic

corrs unplugged, Friday, 1 November 2019 07:41 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR5WWaK6DB4

pplains, Monday, 17 February 2020 02:57 (four years ago) link

Ha.

So, Talking Heads in Rome YouTube > David Byrne’s American Utopia Broadway show

curmudgeon, Monday, 17 February 2020 06:26 (four years ago) link

Don't know where to post this, so I am posting it here. Wait for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX-cP4t9uvE

Also, are you in NYC?

Love that coffee commercial, total Suntory time.

Maresn3st, Monday, 17 February 2020 11:36 (four years ago) link

Back in the day, when members of Warrant, the Clash, GNR, Cosby Show and Talking Heads would rub elbows at the Scrap Bar, the CBGBs of the '90s, long since relegated to the scrap bar of history.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 February 2020 14:42 (four years ago) link

X-post- wife & I were in NYC for MLK weekend and saw David Byrne American Utopia.

curmudgeon, Monday, 17 February 2020 18:21 (four years ago) link

American Utopia closed on Broadway, but now I see it’s coming back for 17 weeks. I think Byrne & band doing Janelle Monae’s Black Lives Matter song is the highlight.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 18:22 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

Interview with Chris Frantz on his Talking Heads book to be published later this month.

Amazon quotes this review/recommendation:

"From the first time I saw Talking Heads live (CBGB, 1976), I've had a huge thing for Tina Weymouth. And since then I've been biding my time, waiting for the right moment to make my move. But after reading Remain in Love by Chris Frantz, it's become pretty clear to me that she's already in a relationship (see pages xi, 3, 33-34, etc.), and what's more, it looks to be serious (pages 41, 43-48, and especially 147). But you know something? That's OK. I'm happy for Tina, and for Chris, a great drummer who has written a great book." ―Bill Murray

willem, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link

lol

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

:D

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link

irl lol at “especially 147”

Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link

Probably not the biggest Heads fan on the borad, I mean I like them fine but they aren’t one of “my bands” but dying to read this based on the tastes I’ve gotten and the interview just posted is no exception. I am a huge Modern Lovers fan so there is that, I guess.

Isolde mein Herz zum Junker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link

eleven months pass...

watching the “stop making sense” concert right now and I think these guys might be the peak of music.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 June 2021 15:25 (two years ago) link

Many (most?) days I would not disagree.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 June 2021 15:32 (two years ago) link

i like stop making sense a lot, but i always feel a lil' lonely in thinking i would much rather see them in 79 somewhere

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 June 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link

before they got the giant band, i mean (which rules, i get it)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 June 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link

Had I gone with Karl in '79 I'd have to stop him from pogoing.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 June 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link

oh my god, it's hard to put a lid on that though once it gets going

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 June 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link

imagine being one of the ORIGINAL white kids being taught how to dance by talking heads, in the late 70s! i could have told some stories to the later generations of white kids being taught how to dance by talking heads-influenced bands

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 June 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link

I assume they actually grew up to spread that weird funkless herky-jerk '80s dance you always see.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 June 2021 15:57 (two years ago) link

i'm surprised the trademark Stop Make Sense collective "Running in Place" move didn't take off, it seems like excellent cardio

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 June 2021 15:58 (two years ago) link

for real though, i do get a bit distracted by all that stuff (the dancing) during the film. whereas, i imagine a sweaty '79 gig (did they even tour in '79? whatever) where everyone is on too many drugs to dance

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 June 2021 15:59 (two years ago) link

Here's a one-off of them in 1979 as afaict a quintet (with Belew):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1KIYV9ZuKM

Looks like they just kept adding musicians after that.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:01 (two years ago) link

i feel like the odd th fan out because i like the first disc of the name of this band is talking heads, which covers the first two albums, a lot more than the second, which covers remain in light era.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link

Whoops I meant this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTUuheVHmZE

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link

i can confirm (and this is sciencE) that SMS is the peak of music

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link

xxp Me too

search term: buttrock (morrisp), Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:09 (two years ago) link

xp map i remember wearing that first CD (out of 2) when it came out, i agree

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link

(I’m prob an atypical fan for only really being into the first 3 albums… and a few later songs here and there)

search term: buttrock (morrisp), Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:11 (two years ago) link

i still include remain in light in my holy albums list, and i finally let speaking in tongues in a few years ago. but that's IT from talking heads, NO more

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link

km i assume you're familiar with it but if not, Live in Rome 1980 may scratch your itch. it is all on youtube. now that would be a nice thing to get a remaster/reissue of, i have no idea who owns the rights to it or what.

i'd say that one and SMS are the respective apples and oranges of the peak of music

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

Can we discuss the awesomeness of Weymouth's bass line on the live "Born Under Punches."

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link

my relationship with Speaking in Tongues is also weird. I love just about every individual track, and on their own I'm a fan of the production on each too. So many great sounds. But taken as a whole there is just a little bit too much of a sheen on it, that keeps it a notch below RiL and Fear of Music. Also can't really compare it to the first two, which I love as much.

Girlfriend is Better and Life During Wartime are two songs that suffer for me on their respective albums compared to the SMS versions, which I knew and loved first, and I just find to be such higher energy. Everyone seems to love the FoM version of Wartime but I with the SMS version eternally in my head as a comparison, just hear it as kind of neutered

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link

Alfred - oh my yes. how can it be so funky while still having that woozy, wobbly quality

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link

A sheen? It sounds primitive: a true self-production.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:32 (two years ago) link


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