The ILC Favourite Characters Of All Time

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I actually haven't reread my old issues of Hate in years and years--probably time to pull out the TPB collections, at least. The first half-dozen issues or so were amazing at the time, though. Totally nailed the early-'90s subcultural aesthetic.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

The black & white years are even more amazing now because of the depth that they gain on looking back - after buying the Buddy Does Seattle collection last year and being swept away again by the characters and the hilarity and the sadness and the nastiness and the OTMness (Bagge is Crumb's successor not just of Weirdo editorship but also being comics' best satirist of a scene while it was happening: although unlike Crumb, despite being a decade older looking at the ridiculous behavior and interests of his milieu, Bagge's absence of misanthropy makes it all feel totally lived) I had to dig out the issues to read through the Return To Jersey years again, not wanting to wait until they're collected.

Just as well too, since they're stripping the colour for the bok.

occasional mongrel (kit brash), Thursday, 23 November 2006 08:32 (seventeen years ago) link

2. Calvin (Calvin and Hobbes)

(276 points)

http://www.rabittooth.com/13_calvin/faces.jpg

All the characters in Peanuts had simple, well-defined
personalities, which they were unlikely to stray from
(except for Snoopy), but Bill Watterson's Calvin has
some of the weird contradictions of a real person:
he's at once precocious and bratty, a complete cynic
and a total innocent, a gleeful would-be scam artist
and a solitary, sensitive kid who worries about global
warming.
(Justyn)

The only regularly funny strip cartoon (Pete)

Calvin ruined me. Rereading Watterson's oeuvre, I am constantly reminded that damn near each and every one of my character flaws and antisocial tendencies can be put down to me trying to cop Calvin's style. This goes from inventing superhero scenarios in my struggles not to shower as a kid to more current concerns such as grumpiness, flippancy and an obscene pride in forsaking any sort of social and/or physical activity in favour of vegetating in front of the TV. At this stage it's impossible to determine how much of it was personality overlap and how much conscious emulation, of course – either way, Calvin remains the most relatable kid character of all time to me. (Daniel Reifferscheid)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the Top 5 in reverse order really:

Worship Maggie
Adore Captain H
Love Buddy
Like Calvin
and the No.1 is a bit meh.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:07 (seventeen years ago) link

1. Marmaduke (Marmaduke)

http://wiw.org/~jess/weblog/marmaduke.jpg

I just changed my name, or I'd switch up to "Marmaduke is Being Cock-Blocked." (Austin Still)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Perfectly timed.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link

(oh alright)

1. Batman (Batman etc.)

(294 points)

http://www.readyourselfraw.com/recommended/rec_reading/essential_06mar/pope_batman100_small.jpg

Special extended "what were we thinking?" edition!

Dude, it's Batman. From the benevolent father-figure who foils Joker's boners and Adam West's paunch to Frank Miller's obsessive fascist and Kelley Jones's gothic demon, Batman is all bat-things to all bat-people. (Huk-L)

I think Batman is a character that no one creator or creative team has ever gotten completely right since the first few Bob Kane stories. (Until the Nolan movie, maybe.) Kane started introducing costumed villains almost immediately, and DC settled the character into a comfy routine of superheroics — a little goofier goofier in the 50s, more serious in the 70s. Even Miller's Dark Knight carried "angry dad" baggage that undercut the character's basis in guilt and terror as the ultimate motivators. Cumulatively, 65+ years of failed mentorships, failed friendships, failed romantic relationships and thousands of small victories against Joe-Chill-substitutes have created comics' greatest somewhat-heroic protagonist. (Rock Hardy)

WHY? HE'S BATMAN! (Leeeee)

Batman's a bit overplayed at the moment, let's face it. And the current iteration is one of the most boring, unloveable and pretentious characters to be found in comics. But there was a time when he was exciting and fun and he did manage to enslave the entire world with a TV show in the sixties so his current nauseating self is propped up somewhat. (Vic Fluro)

Greatest moments:

From DKR, where he reveals to the Mutant 'banger that he's not in any position to negotiate. (Leeeee)

"Criminals are a superstitious, cowardly lot" (David A Simpson)

Batman used to give whodunnit speeches – "Here's how I deduced the real culprit!" His first meeting with Ra's Al Ghul has perhaps the definitive one of these – Batman paces the floor of a himalayan hideout with a wonderfully smug irritation, hands gesticulating operatically as he delivers a bravura speech, belittling the assorted henchmen, chiding Ra's and shooting off the occasional dry quip. Finally, he says "I'm tired of talking! Ready, Robin?" And the two of them quickly mop the floor with the lot of them in a swashbuckling fight. Classic stuff from the days when Batman behaved a bit more like Sherlock Holmes crossed with Zorro and a bit less like Mr Furious with Asperger's. (Vic Fluro)

"Stephen Hawking!" (me)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Stupendous Man would so kick his ass.

Ray (Ray), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:23 (seventeen years ago) link

when is Batman: Year 101 coming out?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Batman always wins, he just needs time to prepare. in this case 15 months.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Shall we close the board now?

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:04 (seventeen years ago) link

It looks like, the closer we get to the top spot, the more "auteurist" characters there are (i.e. characters who've always been done by one creator/team), though Batman of course is the main exception.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I believe that from now on, whenever anyone asks me "what four people from all of history and literature would you like for dinner guests?" my reply will always be Maggie, Haddock, Buddy and Calvin.

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I've always preferred Hobbes to Calvin.

chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Not Batman?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost,
That's like saying you prefer Harvey to James Stewart, or Ida Know to Jeffy!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm trying to have a good time here! You think Batman knows how to party?

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

coughBATUSIcough

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

"BATUS"?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a theory that Batman has NO TASTE at all. Like not just BAD TASTE, but no taste. Because he's so wholly devoted himself to crimefightery, he's completely sublimated art/music/whatever appreciation. SURE he understands stuff on an intellectual level, and can WEAR taste when he needs to (especially as Bruce Wayne), but it's mere posturing, because as long as there's kids being orphaned in the streets of Gotham, Batman won't dance.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

that's Batman of the post-Miller era, btw

xxpost, have you never seen Adam West, Tuomas?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm, yeah, I like that notion. One of Alfred's main functions is to pick his clothes out for him and buy the artwork for Stately Wayne Manor.

Joe Isuzu's Petals (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

That would explain him at a Roy Lichtenstein retrospective, anyway.

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 23 November 2006 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Hrm. Cubism.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 23 November 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
I'd like to publically apologise for killing ILX dead as Superman by finishing this.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

THE FOOLS WOULDN'T LISTEN.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link

seven months pass...

bump in case anyone wanted to know the winners

chaki, Friday, 24 August 2007 04:56 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

http://www.empireonline.com/50greatestcomiccharacters/default.asp?c=50

chap, Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Rather boring list. Japan is represented by one character, Europe (outside 2000AD) by two. And who the hell puts two characters from Preacher on a top 50 list, and neither of them is Cassidy?! Jesse Custer was like the most boring character in the whole comic, the Tintin of his own book.

Tuomas, Thursday, 10 July 2008 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually, Jesse and Cassidy are pretty much like Tintin and Haddock, right?

Tuomas, Thursday, 10 July 2008 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link

RIP Mona Lisa Ludatits ;_;

HI DERE, Thursday, 10 July 2008 13:48 (fifteen years ago) link

The really striking thing about the list is its complete avoidance of kids' characters (obviously, yes, a lot of the ones featured weren't meant for adults originally).

Groke, Thursday, 10 July 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not clicking 50 times to read that whole list.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 10 July 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.dulcepinzon.com/en_projects_superhero.htm#

Superhero day jobs.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 10 July 2008 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually, Jesse and Cassidy are pretty much like Tintin and Haddock, right?

t-bomb from Tuomas!

energy flash gordon, Thursday, 10 July 2008 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

no idea this happened, due for a refresh during covid imo

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link

Spiderman
The Creeper
Mysterio
The Lizard
Green Goblin
Madcap
Ghost Rider
Eternity
Dormammu
Clea
Dr Haunt
Winnie The Witch
Mr L. Dedd
Mr Bones
Impy
Uncle Creepy
Cousin Eerie
Crypt Keeper
Old Witch (sorry, no Vault Keeper)
Dr Death
Kenshiro
Shin
Rei
Devilman
Lady Death
Chicken George

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 5 July 2020 13:21 (three years ago) link

The Hulk

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 5 July 2020 13:25 (three years ago) link


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