Grant McLennan - RIP

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For what was up until I found out a lovely day, this has really all knocked me for a loop. I can't stop thinking about it, or at least, as I concentrate on other things it still comes back to me. I went for a small wander just now in my area, and I looked up into the sky without a god that's a clear blue sky. It seems just that much more empty now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 May 2006 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Like a ghost
A ghost of something old
It's cold and dusty in here.
It's in your hand
It sits just like a glove
The finger traces the lines of love.
It's cold and dusty in here.

-- "Dusty in Here"

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 7 May 2006 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Really glad I went to see them last year but otherwise really knocked over by this awful news.

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Sunday, 7 May 2006 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not over Nikki Sudden at all yet, so this is really a blow to my head (I'm not even over the passings of Nina Simone and Joe Strummer.) I've been a fan of the Go-Betweens since their time on Postcard, and I've known them since about 1983. I really believed that finally their career seemed on the verge of some sort of breakthrough, even if it were just on a Rufus Wainwright or Tom Waits kind of level - something less than top 40 pop hits, but money from films and decent touring revenues. Clearly, they deserved it.

Dee Xtrovert (dee dee), Sunday, 7 May 2006 02:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't go out tonight (heh, maybe I should have). Instead I've been drinking wine, checking this thread, and running through the Go-Be's/McLennan catalogue. I must admit, every time I see the thread title my heart catches in my throat. "No more Go-Betweens songs? Ever?"

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 7 May 2006 02:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm at a complete loss for words. RIP Grant.

TRG (TRG), Sunday, 7 May 2006 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Pontiac, MI at the 7th House

Haha, yeah, I was there too, great show. Shit, this is awful news, I'm heartbroken.

TRG (TRG), Sunday, 7 May 2006 03:20 (seventeen years ago) link

A great songwriter and someone who defined an image of Australia for me through his lyrics and music. "Cattle and Cane" is not his only legacy, thankfully, and I'll miss not getting to see how the band would age even more gracefully than they already have.

Guymauve (Guymauve), Sunday, 7 May 2006 03:24 (seventeen years ago) link

one of the bands that formed the soundtrack to my adolescence, but never, ever got stale... i can't imagine not looking forward to the next go-betweens album, it seems like i always have been.

gem (trisk), Sunday, 7 May 2006 06:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesus Christ! This is so unspeakably awful and 'unlikely'. Makes for the one GBs-related thread to which I don't know what to post... RIP GWM.

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, 7 May 2006 07:05 (seventeen years ago) link

This is very sad news indeed, such a charming engaging and fun man, as with gem their songs marked my Sydney adolescence. Thoughts go out to his family and of course Robert.

mentalist (mentalist), Sunday, 7 May 2006 07:12 (seventeen years ago) link

and (duh, forgot), the Seattle GB's show was the best I saw in 2005. just amazing.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 7 May 2006 07:39 (seventeen years ago) link

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mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 7 May 2006 08:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Just out of curiosity, how big were they in Australia?

ABC-TV (Aus) evening news just reported his death as the 3rd or 4th story. Which was pleasantly surprising. Many viewers of a certain age probably stopped chewing their dinner, even if he wasn't a household name...

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, 7 May 2006 08:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Streets Of Your Town was certainly a radio hit, but as to how big they were in the mainstream media, not huge I think.

mentalist (mentalist), Sunday, 7 May 2006 08:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Just began to listen their works a few months ago...

zeus (zeus), Sunday, 7 May 2006 09:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Only discovered them a couple of years ago, seeing them live at the Corner in Melbourne, but they blew me away. I couldn't believe they hadn't achieved more widespread success, particularly in their own country, with such a strong catalogue.

Put '16 Lovers Lane' on at work on Friday and listened to it all the way through - I rarely do that with any album these days. Very, very sad news indeed.

wombatX (wombatX), Sunday, 7 May 2006 09:28 (seventeen years ago) link

ABC-TV (Aus) evening news just reported his death as the 3rd or 4th story.

Not in every state! Didn't get a mention on ABC News down my way.

Bring Me The Head of ESTEBAN BUTTEZ (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 7 May 2006 09:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh no. Just heard about it on 6Music news. This is heartbreaking news.
I've turned the radio off and am now playing Before Hollywood.

David Orton (scarlet), Sunday, 7 May 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost: wombatX, that's funny. I hadn't listened to them in months, but I was thinking about them, and especially Grant, on Friday. I played "Tallulah" tonight before I went to hear some "art music," and thought while I was out about how much he might have appreciated what I was listening to.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 7 May 2006 09:55 (seventeen years ago) link

fucking hell. RIP, grant.

the go-betweens are one of those bands i love when i listen to them - but i don't listen to them enough. i was lucky enough to see them live, though, and i'm grateful for that.

this is genuinely terrible, upsetting, tragic news. RIP.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 7 May 2006 11:56 (seventeen years ago) link

The Barbican show was one of the best concerts I have ever attended.

Thank you, Grant, for that and so much, much more.

I just can't believe it.

RIP.

Niall, Sunday, 7 May 2006 12:03 (seventeen years ago) link

So so so sad. Lends the career-summation quality of That Striped Sunlight Sound's 'living room acoustic stories' session with Grant and Robert just that much more poignancy and sweetness. RIP Grant, and godspeed.

rmh, Sunday, 7 May 2006 13:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Chris Eckman of the Walkabouts -- whose name is a specific and knowing homage to the Go-Betweens -- posted this earlier on the mailing list:

I am devastated by the news of Grant Mclennan's death. He was one of the great songwriters of the past 25 years. "Cattle And Cane" is transcendence as song. "Boundary Rider" from their last album is just a good.

I hung out with Grant and Robert backstage in Vienna, about a year ago. He was in a positive, chatty mood. The club was packed and the show was WONDERFUL. The Go-betweens were back and as great as ever.

This is a cruel, cruel blow. This is absolutely not fair. The loss is immense. My heart aches for Robert.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 May 2006 13:18 (seventeen years ago) link

The official message board tribute thread.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 May 2006 13:26 (seventeen years ago) link

(You'll find many moving posts, including some from quite familiar names, like Teenage Fanclub's Norman Blake and mastering/remastering guru Bill Inglot.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 May 2006 13:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Including Toby Vail!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 7 May 2006 13:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, just noticed that myself!

And man, some of the great stories there:

i first met Grant in Los Angeles on their first trip out here in 85...instantly charmed, we became fast friends, along with Robert and the rest of the group.
He told me he was dying to try REAL mexican food for the first time, so he and Lindy hopped in my car and we headed for the best i could find. of course we had to stop for beer first and although i mentioned a certain law against opening and driving, we cracked a few and headed to santa monica.
at the table, he spied some EXTEMELY HOT peppers that they set out for the daring. i warned him against eating any. he ignored my warning and bit into one whole pepper, chewed for a while, and the sweat started pouring off his face...he went RED!!...smiled, guzzled some beer and then DID IT AGAIN...3 more times!! "we dont have anything like that down in australia" he said...!

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Grant worked in my record shop in the late 1970's in Toowong, He came in late one night after closing with a flagon of wine in his hand and said to me that he and Robert were thinking of recording two songs for a single. I said "Gee, do you you think that will work?"

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I recall late one night in 1981 Grant standing at the bar of the Queensland Institute of Technology (now QUT) Campus Club, one of the many live venues in Brisbane at that very lively time. My band had just played a not very memorable gig, but Grant strained to offer a compliment "I liked that Wire song (Outdoor Miner) you played". A more recent memory is of driving down Moray Street in New Farm and seeing Grant walking along the footpath. I slowed the car and offered him a ride. Grant jumped in and before I could establish where he was going we got to talking about the Bob Dylan concert that I'd seen a few nights before down on the beach at Ballina. Grant hadn't seen the show but he wanted to know what I thought. I recall him expressing disappointment that Dylan had stopped singing or even trying to sing. I remember saying "yes, you're right, but it didn't really trouble me because he looked just so into playing with his band". Grant then said "Could you see if he was shaking his leg, that's the real indicator you know ?" Before I could answer (and indeed I had seen the famous Dylan leg-shake), Grant indicated that we had travelled as far as he was going, thanked me for the lift, and was on his way again. Bon voyage.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 May 2006 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Appalling. Never got to see them live, but I've been pressing their records upon everyone I know for years now...

They're playing Cattle and Cane on 6Music as I write this post...

Mippy (Mippy), Sunday, 7 May 2006 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link

RIP

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 7 May 2006 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Pitchfork:

McLennan was often considered to be the more pop-oriented half of the Go-Betweens' songwriting team, but his work is also often tinged with sadness and melancholy, most notably "Cattle and Cane", a haunting rumination on aging and memory, and "Dusty in Here", written for his late father.

McLennan also excelled at marrying breezy melodies to world-weary, evocative words, crafting cerebral tracks that exuded a delicate warmth and depth of humanity rare in three-minute pop songs. The best examples of which are "Bye Bye Pride", "Bachelor Kisses", "Right Here", and "Streets of Your Town". Among other compositions for which McLennan will be most fondly remembered are the Go-Betweens' "That Way", "The Wrong Road", "Dive for Your Memory", "Love Is a Sign", and "Finding You", and solo tracks "Put You Down" and "Simone & Perry".

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 7 May 2006 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Those recalling the impact of D. Boon's death in relation to this one are ringing true. The big difference for me is that when D. Boon died I felt quite alone. Few of my friends cared much, so I isolated myself with stacks of vinyl. This time, thanks to ILM, the Go-Betweens' message board, the assortment of links cited above, I feel part of a community. A community that mourns and curses, and makes McLennan's passing something significant and painful and worth sharing with each other.

By the way, I recommend re-reading as I just did Grant's and Robert's touching and witty song-by-song liner notes on the Anthology.

Taylor, Sunday, 7 May 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Well said, Taylor.
To which Anthology are you referring? "1978-1990?"

Jim M (jmcgaw), Sunday, 7 May 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, the double-disk "1978-1990." Items like this make me smile:

"Bye Bye Pride"
Cairns is a lazy, small town full of boats and cane fields. It is also unbearably hot. An old army officer once said to me that the heat took away his pride. He then sucked loudly on the straw in his gin and headed out to the first hole. I was his caddy so I followed him.
—G.M.

Taylor, Sunday, 7 May 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Who is D.Boon? Presumably I ought to check out..

Mippy (Mippy), Sunday, 7 May 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

D. Boon was the guitarist and lead singer for the Minutemen. They were excellent.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 7 May 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

D. Boon was such a unique talent. No one was like him, and no one ever will be like him. Grant was somehow more special, though. What he did, many people did, but few did it quite as well as he did (if that makes sense). This hits hard and hurts.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Sunday, 7 May 2006 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I've also always loved the liner notes to '78-'90, some of my favorite notes ever.

Hammer the Hammer
Too many late nights in St Kilda, Melbourne. An incomplete meditation on loneliness and violence, sometimes mistakenly thought to be about drugs. Recorded during a lull in the Birthday Party's "Junkyard" session. This was the last song we cut before moving to England. -GM

Bachelor Kisses
We came back from Christmas in New York having lost our record company somewhere along the way. I wrote this in immigration having been refused entry to the United Kingdom. The first person who heard the song was my sister. She said that Marianne Faithful should sing it. -GM

The Wrong Road
We lived in London for almost six years. I shared a dark flat with a painter and then a comedian. The painter was obsessed with grey. The comedian loved Tommy Cooper. This song fits somwhere between these two things. -GM

Cattle and Cane
Written in summer on a borrowed guitar in a Paddington bedroom, London. The other rooms were occupied by unconscious friends. The rhythm struck me as strange, the mood as beautiful and sad. The song came easily, was recorded quickly and still haunts me. -GM

Dusty in Here
This is a song about my father who died when I was four. -GM

Second-Hand Furniture
I had a dream about a divorced man who looked into a shop window and saw his old bed. I think it was snowing. The catalogue of objects was an ad lib. For some reason this song is popular in Stockholm. -GM

Don't Call Me Gone
I've always liked country music. This is a typical mix of pathos and sentimentality in the tradition of George Jones and Tammy Wynette. It comes close to pastiche but the Go Betweens seldom genre hop so this is what it is. -GM

TRG (TRG), Sunday, 7 May 2006 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Really sad news. They meant a lot to me. RIP.

Bidfurd (Bidfurd), Sunday, 7 May 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

A collection of videos here:

http://karimamir.blogspot.com/2006/05/rip-grant-mclennan-youtube-tribute.html

TRG (TRG), Sunday, 7 May 2006 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Is there any info on cause of death? This is really really sad news....

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 7 May 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Growing up in Perth in the 1980s had it's advantages.

Happily, east coast bands making a trek over to the UK (and back again) invariably stopped in Perth for a show or two, often in addition to any national tour they might happen to be on. Excellent news for fans of the Go-Betweens (and The Triffids).

Consequently, I was lucky enough to see them many, many times and they never disappointed. Memories of Grant plucking out the notes of Cattle & Cane under a single spotlight at the Shenton Park Hotel (also RIP) or of his and Amanda Brown's soaring harmonies in Bye Bye Pride or Streets of Your Town will be with me forever. His passing is such a terrible loss.

RIP G W McLennan

Theodore, Sunday, 7 May 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link


A report here yielded this bit of information, which i hadn't known:

"The early line-up of the band that included Morrison, Forster, McLennan and his then partner Amanda Brown fragmented amid acrimony, but the four were reunited in Sydney several weeks ago where, said Morrison, they were able to resolve some of their differences."

PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Sunday, 7 May 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Gosh. I hope, at least, they were all able to put any longstanding stuff that had affected them on a personal level to bed at last.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 May 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

a tribute from a blogger: I turn to hold you, you're gone... fingers let go, I'm gone...

DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 7 May 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost- yeah, my sense was that time helped. In the last couple years Lindy and Amanda (as well as Vickers) have posted to the GBs message board, which suggests some civility. I still wish they'd involved Lindy after they reformed (she was willing).

TRG (TRG), Sunday, 7 May 2006 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I've read posts by Morrison, Brown, and ex-bassist Robert Vickers too. It seems like most of the acrimony was b/w McLennan and Morrison, who from the beginning developed an instant dislike, motivated (according to the David Nichols bio) by McLennan's jealousy: he resented Morrison for taking his best friend Robert away from them.

Most definitely they had a low-rent Aussie Rumours-type psychodrama goin' on.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 7 May 2006 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Steve Kilbey has added a new and very moving post talking more about Grant and the first Jack Frost album. That was actually what I listened to this morning instead of anything Go-Betweens of him solo -- I think maybe the fact that it's more of a mediated effort makes it easier to listen to now, less of a sting of loss. And it is, much like Steve says, a great album -- Steve's own work, I think, constantly grows better out of his many collaborations, and I think he's right to think this one of his own best efforts based on who he was working with at the time. It's a striking and wonderful album and would be on its own without any context. But Grant had so much more, didn't he? It beggars easy description.

A strange day. I've had to concentrate on many other things, and I'm glad of that, but still...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 May 2006 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link

How woudl you describe the Jack Frost album(s) in relation to the rest of Grant's work, Ned?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 7 May 2006 23:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Needless to say, if anyone wants to YSI a copy, I'd be most grateful :)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 7 May 2006 23:53 (seventeen years ago) link


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