Great Japanese Pop

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Domofuki Murata

Baba Yaga, The Iron Hag (blastocyst), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Massage Emancipator

Baba Yaga, The Iron Hag (blastocyst), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Crispity Nuggets

Baba Yaga, The Iron Hag (blastocyst), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Been listening excessively to a rather sweet post-Shibuya-kei record from last year: Refely's 9-Cliches. It's like a three way between Cornelius/Flipper's Guitar, Max Tundra and Shiina Ringo.

BARMS, Monday, 3 April 2006 10:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, the elepop band The Aprils have three fantastic crossbreed indie-electroclash-Game Boy-good time pop albums, all released over the past 3 years.

BARMS, Monday, 3 April 2006 10:40 (eighteen years ago) link

oh, and on a Yuki tip, her 2005 album "Joy" is v v good.

permanent revolution (cis), Monday, 3 April 2006 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link

The Happy End from the seventies and Flipper's Guitar. Venus Peter. Are Jumprope an originally japanese band? Japancakes.

antonio, Monday, 3 April 2006 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks for the Yuki tip. I was wondering if anybody noticed.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Did anyone mention Tujiko Noriko? I love her much.

Freud Junior (Freud Junior), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i would have replied quicker about Yuki but I started listening to the album and forgot about posting! (actually I often - shamefully? - get Yuki confused with Chara, that same slightly countrified, gentle acoustic pop with the high girl voice breathy rather than squeaky, so I had to check before i recced.)

The great thing about 'joy' is that I expect the usual gentle sweetness, but the first song is so startlingly synthpop (crypto-rave, even!) --
http://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=153YM54R40SLM0PQ01UOPX10PR

permanent revolution (cis), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 08:56 (eighteen years ago) link

check out Denki Groove who at their pinnacle (that's "A" and "Orange") are a combination of boredomsy shouting, slick high speed rapping, rephlexesque techno geekery with nods & winks to devo, supercamp electro pop disco house etc, daft sing songy songs, football chants, vangelis, and the list goes on.
unfortunately they were kind of off the boil before and after these two albums.

bob snoom (vestibule), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

They don't have any new stuff out because they broke up a year ago, but please check out Supercar. They put so many of the artists mentioned on this thread to shame.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Can't say I've grounds to agree with that so far.

BARMS, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Xinlisupreme

S- (sgh), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 03:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey, permanent revolution! Thanks for the ysi!
I've never heard of Chara, but then again I really haven't heard of most of the music on this thread, I'd really like to though, I'm just barely discovering this stuff.
Has anybody heard the album "Prismic", by Yuki?? I've heard good stuff about it so far.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 07:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Is there some place I can buy some of this stuff on CD for non-ridiculous prices? (Even a bargain download site might be good.)

Also compilations would be a good idea, as brought up on another thread.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 8 April 2006 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Another yes to comps. I've got a chunk of Pizzicato Five, which I guess I like but never really want to listen to, but I'm sure there must be more out there. Is there one of those ILM "Rough Guide" lists out there somewhere?

someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Saturday, 8 April 2006 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.yesasia.com/ seems to be what most people use, I've no idea how good it is though. amazon.jp ship internationally as well.

"non-ridiculous prices" - Japanese albums tend to cost ¥3000 or so, which is, what, $25 US? The price is usually pretty fixed, it's written on the cd packaging even. Alas ebookoff - second-hand and hence not cripplingly expensive - don't seem to deliver outside japan. Sometimes yesasia will stock an 'international version' (ie a general non-japan asian version i think?) which is drastically cheaper though.

permanent revolution (cis), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Ugh. This thread reminds me that I lost all of my j-pop in the Great MP3 Player Crash of '05, and it makes me very sad.

I will second (third? fourth?) the Yuki recommendations in this thread wholeheartedly. Except I'll add that her solo albums (and, to some extent, her work with Judy & Mary) don't really have many of the tropes that one might associate with prototypical j-pop. Musically, I think they probably sound much less foreign to Western ears, but they're very solid and well worth checking out.

Here's the video for Yuki's "End Of Shite" (from Prismic, which is indeed great):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrC7zxjGCGc&search=Pv

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Probably should mention that said video is maybe just slightly NSFW (for brief simulated masturbation, upskirt exploration of cartoon gnomes).

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anybody have the new Kurahashi Yoeko album 'Tadaima'? There's a review of it on the keikaku site Milton linked to. I haven't heard it yet, but I have 'Tokyo Piano', which I think is really cool. It's got more of an old-school '70s/80s J-pop vibe. However, her vocals are always really off key and hard to take. I mean I think she must do it on purpose...they'll definitely turn off a lot of listeners. I'm hoping they're slightly more restrained on 'Tadaima'.

I'm going to order 'Tadaima' and the Yukihiro Takahashi album 'Blue Moon Blue' from cdjapan.co.jp

Never used yesasia...but cdjapan is at least reliable.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

So what would be worth checking out by Judy and Mary??

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 9 April 2006 09:40 (eighteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

http://www.waxpoetics.com/music/mixtape/citypop-japanese-aor-mixtape

Japanese DJ Bawxxx recently hipped us to his mix of citypop (Japanese AOR), lovingly called Melancholy of Suburbia, and we’re feeling this! Good luck ever finding these records! We don’t know much about Mr. Bawxxx, but with a little snooping we found out that he apparently hails from Nagoya and eats quite well!

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link

i've been listening to tons of japanese electronic pop of the 1980s, esp. 1980-84, lately. there doesn't seem to be as much of a division between what we might consider "pop" versus "experimental" in japan. that goes for music as much as, say, film. people like hosono and others move freely--even on a single album--between modes. i like that aspect a lot. not that western pop music doesn't have its experimental elements.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link

that said, the "city pop" of the kind on that mix is not very experimental, but it can be very enjoyable. i don't have my laptop to hand to check out the names of the bands/albums in that mode that i've been enjoying, but i can check later. if anyone cares.

the album i've been addicted to in particular is a one-off studio group called "aragon" (that's what the album is called, too). it's a kind of electronic MOR/jazz fusion/4th world/ambient thing. which could sound terrible. amazingly my fave track is on youtube, i'm curious what others think. i think it's lovely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAqNzycK7rY

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

oh yeah, I love the closer on that aragon album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSBH2EGcNHo

original bgm, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link

oh man, somebody else who knows this record! it seems hopelessly obscure. good luck finding an actual copy in the states.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link

don't have a physical copy myself, but yeah, it's a good one!

if you haven't heard it, I'd recommend the ichiko hashimoto's beauty if you dig that aragon lp:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UELvVDDXEG0

similar understated experimental '4th world' pop vibe on a couple tracks (it's pretty eclectic tho, others are nothing like that one)

original bgm, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

these 80s japanese LPs are some of things i don't feel bad about downloading, since in many cases i'd never find a copy. in some cases there have been reissues but given typical japanese prices and exchange rates they'd be like $50+

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link

also it'd be hard for me to even look them up since i don't read kanji :(

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link

haha yeah :-/

going back to this - there doesn't seem to be as much of a division between what we might consider "pop" versus "experimental"

def also really like that about hosono & lots of his contemporaries from that era. his work in the 80s kinda straddles the line between the two but even his ambient music has this abstracted catchiness to it. maybe bc a lot of this crew also did work for movies, anime, video games, commercials, etc.?

original bgm, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

*bookmarked*

the all man brothers (clouds), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link

ooh that hashimoto track is nice

here's one from colored music LP from 1981

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHL2e9VkiyU

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:22 (nine years ago) link

here's some hosono-produced weirdness from 1980

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTiY4RbIaZc

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:29 (nine years ago) link

that's not a takahashi track? it's on one of his solo lps, so just assumed it was

super hilarious hosono cmaeos in this sandii vid btw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxSV8Xu0RUk

original bgm, Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:38 (nine years ago) link

i think takahashi did it first, def his roxy music track -- so good.

the all man brothers (clouds), Thursday, 30 October 2014 04:47 (nine years ago) link

re: finding aragon in the US...probably like 4 or 5 years ago i found a copy in the collection of a weird reclusive ex-EBM DJ from florida that used to be a buyer at princeton record exchange back in the day. still had the store-made hype sticker from (i'm assuming) the 80s, which immediately had me pretty stoked:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b39/spencerd63/IMG_6603_zps37d828c7.jpg

not sure how to post pictures here, hopefully that worked. but yeah, remarkable album. there's a really weird "making-of" type LP called "the studio works" that was issued the same year made up of studio demos and outtakes, worth seeking out if you're a fan. nishimatsu kazuhiro (the vocalist) has a solo album form the same time too, though it's titled a little too far into schmaltz territory for my taste.

Spencer D (reassemblage), Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link

you're the same spencer d that did the "fairlights mallets and bamboo" mixes, yeah?

clouds, Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

yup.

and oops, i meant tilted, not titled.

Spencer D (reassemblage), Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:56 (nine years ago) link

sweet, love those mixes and play them often

clouds, Thursday, 30 October 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link

yeah those mixes are the best, i bow to you spencer.

btw the aragon vocals are sometimes "in japanese" per the sticker but i think a lot of them are just wordless oohs and aaahs etc.

there's a really weird "making-of" type LP called "the studio works" that was issued the same year made up of studio demos and outtakes, worth seeking out if you're a fan.

ha, i'm not likely to find this anywhere. YSI?

the album i've been listening to the last few days is satoshi ashikawa's "wave notation 2: still way" which is pretty purely ambient, and yet like some of hosono's ambient work (or eno's for that matter) there's a subliminal catchiness to it. i believe you can download the whole thing on root blog, just google around and you'll find it.

what else? there's the mallet-heavy yet (yet?) awesome mkawju ensemble LP from 1981, most of it written/produced by future film-score god joe hsaishi. can't seem to find a clip on youtube.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 31 October 2014 04:47 (nine years ago) link

<3 still way so much. is it really the only thing ashikawa did? was never able to find any info about other recordings.

original bgm, Friday, 31 October 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link

can we talk abt how great miharu koshi's "boy soprano" is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8EPTE41c5Q

clouds, Friday, 31 October 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

Lost that one in a crash. Only have one song now from it. Rice Music from Ippu Do also.

Digging the second volume of Fairlights, Mallets and Bamboo.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 31 October 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link

"sur la terra" - super beautiful hosono production

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKUcR2Z9DYY

original bgm, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 06:20 (nine years ago) link

starts ~4mins in

original bgm, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 06:23 (nine years ago) link

New music from Furukawa Miki:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KS1qzueR90

Tokyo Crow, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link

I pretty much consider this the perfect pop song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tdMHZRiGd8

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Wednesday, 5 November 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link

this city pop mix is p tight overall but mariya takeuchi "plastic love" at 31:20 is a monster:
https://soundcloud.com/bawxxx/melancholy-of-suburbia#t=31:20

original bgm, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 03:33 (nine years ago) link


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