― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Monday, 14 March 2005 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Monday, 14 March 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 14 March 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 March 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― his face was burned off in a flaming crossbow accident (King Kobra), Monday, 14 March 2005 23:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:56 (nineteen years ago) link
I haven't read the whole thread here, but from the looks of things most of the people that hate are hating the fans, not the band.
― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 01:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 01:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 01:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 01:12 (nineteen years ago) link
The punk rock version of Jimmy Buffet
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 02:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 02:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 02:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 02:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hardcore emO=GAY, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link
Subject: Sublime Sure as hell did not inspire this shitty bandFrom: "ned Raggett is a Fagget" Date: Wed, May 3, 2006 1:59 pmTo: ned@kuci.orgPriority: NormalOptions: View Full Header | View Printable Version | View Message details | Bounce
Hawththorn heights is my least fav band because hardcore music is gay
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― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link
(dud)
― Tommy Tannoy (Tommy Tannoy), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 4 May 2006 04:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― FordDealershipsTolstoy, Thursday, 4 May 2006 06:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― city of gyros (chaki), Thursday, 4 May 2006 09:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 4 May 2006 09:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Confounded (Confounded), Thursday, 4 May 2006 10:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sandi, Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/04.02.98/gifs/comics-9813.gif
― Telephonething (Telephonething), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Carlos Keith (Buck_Wilde), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link
i was born in 1970 in long beach california and actually was very tight friends growing up with the drummer of sublime, a guy by the name of bud gaugh. i knew of sublime from its inception in 1986 and i watched them rehearse, play shitty punker parties and clubs, and eventually sell out theatres and shit all over california. they were all really nice, down to earth guys and fun to be around. i read something up there about the lead singer having a monster ego, which is untrue, bradley was one of the humblest dudes i ever met. as for musical influence or whatever i'm just a punk from southern california, i can't help you there, but they kicked some mean shit back in the day and they were really, truly a great band and great guys (and rad as hell when it came to surfing)..
just wanted to say something since i actually knew all these guys way back in the mist.
― MC, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― city of gyros (chaki), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link
besides man what does being fat have anything to do with making good records?
― MC, Wednesday, 17 May 2006 00:52 (seventeen years ago) link
it has *everything* to do with making good records
― Chris Bee (Cee Bee), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 00:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Today I will bow my head in remembrance of him. Today I will bow my head in remembrance of him stumbling down Long Beach Blvd smacked out on heroin. Today I will remember Sublime for what they were: A 3rd rate Bad Brains. Today I will bow my head in remembrance...while taking a dump.
― Matt H, Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― chaki (chaki), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link
Personally I think that a lot of Bradley's lyrics are meaningful and powerful, and if you dont, then whatevers that's totally fine, you don't have to listen to them at ALL. I feel privelidged to be able to listen to sublime and take in all of the emotion and soul that Bradley put into every song. If all the nay-sayers on this thread dont get that, then I guess I kinda feel sorry that they dont get out of it what I do, but i dont think that is any reason to bash them back. I cant believe such hardcore Sublime fans say shit like "ned Raggett is a Fagget" and "You fuckin' fags only listen to whats on MTV and you shop at Hollister and have gay looking hair cuts". I mean I dont understand where all of this anger and offensiveness comes from, but I dont get any of that feeling from Sublime or Bradley.
In the words of Bradley himself "Good music is good music, and that should be enough for anybody." So why doesnt everyone just listen and let listen, so to speak, and just at LEAST stop all this stupid name calling, POINTLESS arguments, and short cheap shots like calling them a 3rd rate Bad Brains?
P.S. Although it may be HARD for some of you guys to believe, but I haven't smoked weed for 2 years now, and BELIEVE IT OR NOT!!! I still like sublime, so lets just stop that generalization shall we?
― Now I'm Right Back..., Sunday, 28 May 2006 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― chaki (chaki), Sunday, 28 May 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Sunday, 28 May 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link
To say the best song they ever did was "doin' time" and then take credit away from them for making it by acrediting ALL of the greatness of the song to gershwin is a slightly inconsequential argument. Where is the fact printed the "doin' time" is their best song? Is this your opinion? If it is your opinion, based on no real data, made simply from observing what you think might be true, then it is quite irrelevant. Furthermore to discount all of what Sublime did to create the song is underappreciating all that they actually did. Although Doin' Time is based off of Summertime by Gershwin from Porgy and Bess, the two songs are far from identical. The line "summertime and the living's easy" is the only line in common from the two songs. The genre for both songs are very different, and the tempos are both very different. So, to say that "doin' time" was made because of Gershwin is really pointless, I mean it's a cover for christ sake. However, it is really one of the more dissimilar covers of any that I have heard. By your standards, Save Ferris and Jimi Hendrix should both get no credit for their songs "Come on Eileen" and "All Along the Watchtower" respectively. A cover is a cover, and the song "Doin' Time" is a fantastic one, and its popularity and quality should not discount the musical prowess and quality of Sublime as a band. (sERIOUSLY)...
― Now I'm Right Back..., Monday, 29 May 2006 03:17 (seventeen years ago) link
actually i really like sublime, NIRB, though i should have phrased my post in a manner that suggested i didn't
― omar little, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link
I see no fault with this man singing in Sublime.
― mkcaine, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Nowell was cremated and his ashes were distributed over the water of his favorite surf spot, Surfside.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link
that's nice
― stephen, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link
All these thread revives, Jon, and you don't link to this story instead:
Rivas and a group of friends from Northern Los Angeles traveled to Orange County that day to visit the grave of Bradley Nowell, a guitarist for the popular band Sublime, who died of a heroin overdose at a San Francisco hotel in 1996. Sublime was a popular 1990s era band that performed reggae, punk, ska, funk and hip hop music. Nowell fronted the band, which originated in Long Beach.Later that evening, during the birthday gathering at the hotel, Rivas said “I think I saw God at the beach.” Rothwell responded, according to witnessed, “I am the Devil… Don’t tell me about God.”She then grabbed a small knife from her purse and stabbed Rivas in the neck while he stood on a balcony, severing the jugular.
Sublime was a popular 1990s era band that performed reggae, punk, ska, funk and hip hop music. Nowell fronted the band, which originated in Long Beach.
Later that evening, during the birthday gathering at the hotel, Rivas said “I think I saw God at the beach.”
Rothwell responded, according to witnessed, “I am the Devil… Don’t tell me about God.”
She then grabbed a small knife from her purse and stabbed Rivas in the neck while he stood on a balcony, severing the jugular.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 00:04 (sixteen years ago) link
oh my :X
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 00:08 (sixteen years ago) link
oh good Ned you're here. I wanted to let you know that your critical perspective had a bad blindspot right there in 90s radio rock...conflating Bradley Nowell with Fred Durst or Mark McGrath is a pretty grave error in judgement...Sublime certainly made a mistake that many bands before them made (confusing the power of 'black' musical genres with the machismo of some of their practitioners) but ther misogyny was prolley no worse than anything Led Zeppelin did (and far better than anything RHCP did).
― Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 02:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Thanks, I think.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 02:41 (sixteen years ago) link
besides "breaking the girl" and "soul to squeeze," of course. will it save RHCP from the middling shame of being known as the most average band ever? Stay tuned!
― Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 02:43 (sixteen years ago) link
D A. M
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 02:44 (sixteen years ago) link
sorry that was a bit more priggish then I actually intended to be when i first conceived it.
point is: Mark McGrath and Fred Durst would both have to stand on a tall ladder to kiss Bradley Nowell's ass...Nowell not only could play an instument pretty well, but he actually had a bit of loose jazzy improvisational songwriting style (see STP), at least some of what he has to say about the opposite sex is more thoughtful and considered than "I did it all for the nookie."
Plus Sublime has done the best Grateful Dead cover in the last fifteen or twenty years.
― Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 02:49 (sixteen years ago) link
was that still priggish?
― Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 02:52 (sixteen years ago) link