yeah some of the pressings are quite sloppy, i'll give you that -- but the clear version of bc04 -- oof. one of the best sounding records i own.
i dunno about the crackly press of lyot remix being unintentional though... i actually think it sounds better that way! as hardwax notes about its dancehall: "Most of these are Jamaican pressings, with crackle and dust built in. This is how it’s supposed to be!"
― resolved, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:41 (sixteen years ago) link
rhythm and sound no longer together?
http://www.eleventhvolume.com/miscellany/2007/08/04/sad-news/
― nikbozic, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link
i'd say moritz von oswald doing a remix of 2raumwohnung is a fairly strong indicator they're on a break at least. whatever happened to that luciano remix he had scheduled on ostgut ton?
― resolved, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link
holy blargh.
Anyway, if the warehouse rave thing is true of Basic Channel, then I feel like Fluxion is hearing a dark warehouse rave from inside a gigantic tank of water.
― the table is the table, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link
also. UR mix of Ploy is great, had never heard it before a few days ago.
― the table is the table, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link
they both did separate remixes of Tony Allen this year too.
― jed_, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah i know but the relative insignificance of 2raumwohnung just set the really set the alarm bells ringing for me...
― resolved, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link
-1st set the...
no offence intended to 2raumwohnung particularly. i'd just never imagine them getting a basic channel family remix.
― resolved, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link
i still haven't heard the full m-series, just the comp. cd
― am0n, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link
who's loss? your loss!
― elan, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 22:26 (sixteen years ago) link
resolved, you are right about bc-04. the way that first track sounds, that way it moves me... i think my favorite basic channel song if i picked one. funky, dark, moody, uplifting rhythms, perfect timing, pumping bass
― elan, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link
and the UR mix of ploy! that's what made me listen to UR. probably my fave UR song besides amazon and transition.
That Moritz mix of Tony Allen! =00000000000
― admrl, Monday, 5 November 2007 18:22 (sixteen years ago) link
should be 2x as long
― ☪, Monday, 5 November 2007 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
wait, im thinking of moyege (marks disco dub).
― ☪, Monday, 5 November 2007 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link
maurizio!
― admrl, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 01:37 (sixteen years ago) link
substance!
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 02:11 (sixteen years ago) link
i listen to the R&S CD the most of all the BC related stuff, followed by the BC:CD and then the Main Street CD. i have a bunch of all this stuff on vinyl, and i love playing the M records in a deejay set but on their own they dont do much.
and i know this is close to heresy, but i dont really like any of the Chain Reaction stuff. maybe a couple monolake bits and a couple porter ricks jams but most of that stuff is too clinical, not enough soul for my taste.
― pipecock, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 03:53 (sixteen years ago) link
poppycock.
― blunt, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 08:09 (sixteen years ago) link
pipecock: no love for vainqueur? not even this?
― resolved, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link
That record isn't actually on Chain Reaction.
― Display Name, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link
thanks for pointing that out
― resolved, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link
cos i said 'no love for chain reaction, not even this' up there, i can see
Rene Lowe's best work was on labels other than CR. Pipecock was not criticising Vainquer, but CR as a whole.
― Display Name, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link
resolved fucking up doesn't make pipecock right, though
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 23:37 (sixteen years ago) link
"pipecock: no love for vainqueur? not even this?
-- resolved"
nah, even that i thought was wildly overrated. some of my least favorite BC/R&S related records are the ones with tikiman on them (the early Burial mixes, the 2 middle Main Streets [though the last mainstreet is DEEEEEEEP, possible my favorite R&S jam!], etc). and vaniquer is just not my kind of thing. its funny, of the CR stuff, i feel like they were related to BC in the most shallow possible manner, none of it can really match the emotional content of the R&S records. obviously the BC guys were into it since they released it, but it was like they were putting out the less interesting music related to what they came up with.....
― pipecock, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 00:07 (sixteen years ago) link
i think the early burial mixes are some of the best. never tell you the time and what a mistry are fantastic.
― elan, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 00:20 (sixteen years ago) link
why is king
― resolved, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 00:32 (sixteen years ago) link
"i think the early burial mixes are some of the best. never tell you the time and what a mistry are fantastic.
-- elan"
i just dont feel them as much as say "best friend" (imo so obviously the best one), "music hit you", or "king/queen in my empire"......
― pipecock, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 01:08 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, best friend might be the best. and music hit you! that was the first thing where i sat down with a drum machine and figured out the beat. it's pretty simple, but whatevs.
― elan, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 02:10 (sixteen years ago) link
this is like "what's better: quadrant dub or quadrant q1.1?" WHY CHOOSE. except you still found the wrong choice by slagging the tikiman showcase ;)
― elan, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 02:13 (sixteen years ago) link
ps q1.1
pretty obvious that the chain reaction stuff was their experimental off-shoot, for headphones not dancefloors, but even so i could see vainqueur's 'solanus' getting thrown into a techno set without a blink. that elevations cd is one of the best things on c.r. i think
― am0n, Thursday, 8 November 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link
hell, substance and fluxion too
― am0n, Thursday, 8 November 2007 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link
lots of the 12s work really well on the dancefloor - "emerge", "erosion 1", "no stunts", the ridis 12", "resilient 1.1" etc etc. i guess the cd releases allowed producers to really stretch out and get dubbier and more ambient. was listening to the various artists album the other night, i could dance to that shit, sleep to it, dance and sleep at the same time, whatever - so nice! someone should do a cr cd poll or something.
― r1o natsume, Thursday, 8 November 2007 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link
i like chain reaction more than basic channel, but they are both great obviously.
― tricky, Thursday, 8 November 2007 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link
i really love how loud and brash the open 909 hats are on alot of this stuff, like it's the one absolute, physical thing holding down all this inner space noise
― r1o natsume, Thursday, 8 November 2007 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link
substance does some great stuff like that with the clave sounds instead of the hats, same idea though. It's def. the real anchor for almost everything, refreshingly backwards
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 8 November 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link
It's an especially nice contrast with most of what's coming out these days, what with the fad for really short, clipped, ultra-restrained hi-hat sounds, hardly any hi-end hiss to modern techno AT ALL.
I always thought the bassline on 'what a mistry' sounded like it was being played on a tuba. It's kind of brassy sounding isn't it.
― sous les paves, Friday, 9 November 2007 07:37 (sixteen years ago) link
so I was playing 'round one - I'm your brother' in my room today and my roomate came in and took a listen and pointed out that the lyrics of that song are from an Isley Brother's tune: Caravan of Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6gmrM6C8O0
wow!
― sous les paves, Saturday, 23 February 2008 04:40 (sixteen years ago) link
holy shit! i wonder about new day.
― elan, Saturday, 23 February 2008 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link
wild. its like they "sampled" the chorus. i wonder if the verses are from anything? gotta say that as much as i love the isleys, the main street version is far superior ;)
― pipecock, Sunday, 24 February 2008 06:02 (sixteen years ago) link
;_;
organizing CDs today and i noticed that my BC compilation CD is missing. the metal tin is there, but there's nothing in it!
six months ago when my monolake CD cracked into pieces i freaked out and took all of the discs out. then i put them in empty jewel cases (these pile up like crazy because i keep all of my CDs in plastic sleeves). later i got some plastic CD sleeves and put them in those. i think maybe i didn't take out the BC CD and threw it out w/ the jewel cases when i did my monthly "throw out all the jewel cases" sweep.
either that or it's misfiled somewhere among either 1000s of plastic sleeves or 100s of digipaks ...
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 24 February 2008 06:52 (sixteen years ago) link
haha omg porter ricks "spoiled" (force inc.) neverending subaquatic tunnel of disco house heaven
― blunt, Saturday, 1 March 2008 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link
ysi
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 1 March 2008 23:10 (sixteen years ago) link
also: is "symbiotics" (porter ricks vs techno animal) any good?
i'm inclined to think: no, not really
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 1 March 2008 23:12 (sixteen years ago) link
moi non plus. re:ysi, I wish I had casually digitized my vinly over time... saying goodbye to the bulk of it in one sitting. loss will make me better !
― blunt, Saturday, 1 March 2008 23:15 (sixteen years ago) link
interestingly some artists stay w/out question (alphabetically so far: air liquide, juan atkins, daniel bell)
― blunt, Saturday, 1 March 2008 23:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I are serious cat. bye, bartz & bicknell! see you in another life, beltram & baxter!
― blunt, Saturday, 1 March 2008 23:37 (sixteen years ago) link
dude you can't get rid of blake baxter records. wtf.
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 1 March 2008 23:46 (sixteen years ago) link