"She's an indoor kitty..."

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humane society of the u.s. article

it was a different shark (wetmink2), Monday, 3 October 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.hsus.org/web-files/People_and_Animals/184x265_woman_with_cat.gif

What, exactly, is this woman doing????

The Ghost of It's A Cat, Not A Theremin (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"You're a nosy kitty. You know what happens to nosy kitties, don't you?"

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

What the hell does the Humane Society know about animal welfare?

andy --, Monday, 3 October 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

That is a big fucking cat.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

You've got the job. Let me just check one thing.

(xpost)

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

It's just bugs, litter and hobos.

Gear! takes care of the latter for us. He just needs to train the cats.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

The thing is, the cat will be timid and well-behaved when you first let them out, but eventually the cat will wander further and further, and be pushy and aggressive about getting outside.

My cat is declawed (previous owner), and has never been let loose outside. The cat never had a desire to escape the previous owner's house (even though all her other cats did). This is why I chose her to live in my 5th floor apartment building in downtown SF. It's a perfect match. Each situation is different. Some cats go ape-shit if they are never let outside. Mine rarely feels the need to sit on the window sill, let alone get out. Also, my cat is a Siamese. I've heard from various people that Siamese aren't as interested in getting out.

recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah Siamese and Siamese mixes are more interested in making as much noise as possible, than they are in going outside.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

The thing is, the cat will be timid and well-behaved when you first let them out, but eventually the cat will wander further and further, and be pushy and aggressive about getting outside.

My experience is completely the reverse - when I didn't let him out, stopping him getting out was a terrible struggle, because whenever the front door was opened he'd dash for it. Now, he's fairly calm and much less aggressive about getting out.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Allyzay OTM. Sometimes I want to let her out of the apartment, via the window (5 floors up).

recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I have only had Siameses as a teenager, and boy do they like to yell and carry on like freaking lunatics. I'm pretty certain Mr. Kitty is a Siamese mix, though I have no way to know for sure, based on A) his physical characteristics besides coloring B) THE FACT THAT ALL HE DOES IS SCREAM 24 HOURS A DAY. I've never seen an animal with SO MUCH to tell me. And it's like, shut the fuck up, I don't even understand your language and it probably amounts to "Did you know the human head weights 8 pounds??" Oh my god. Headache inducing sometimes.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought he maybe wanted to go outside, hence the vest and leash that cost nearly $100. But no, he didn't want to go outside because that upset him a lot. He just wanted to stare at his reflection in the glass and SCREAM at himself. Ugh. Stupid animal.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i keep singing this thread title to the Pinball Wizard chorus.

my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I have an irrational fear that I've posted all of my anecdotes here before (is there a word for that?) but one time my kitty ESCAPED from the apartment and like an hour later my neighbor rang the doorbell and said "Is this your kitty?" and kitty was trembling all sweaty and weeping inside a cardboard box in the hallway less than two feet from my apartment door, which was as far as she'd gotten.

Paul Eater (eater), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.lostiniraq.com/images/thumbs/thumb_charles-74.jpg

"Did you know Barbie's measurements, if projected to adult size, would be 38-18-34?"

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link

There was this one time ("one time") he climbed right up onto my chest while I was on the computer typing some paper or another ("paper"), and stared me right in the eyes with this MAD expression and started YELLING. Over and over and over, he wouldn't shut up, and I'd bat him off and he'd come running back to do the same thing. And he had food, and water, and I would try to pet him...still, same thing. Yowling at top voice and STARING, like 3 inches off my nose. Then he started purring and poofed out his whiskers and ran to sit on top of the fridge. Who knows what that was about!!! Still better than the time he threw all my liquor on the floor while making that same crazy face!! Ever tried to clean schnapps and cat hair off a floor? It never comes off.

I'm convincing myself to bring the cat outside, this is for certain.

My sister's cat likes to go outside. He is also a Siamese. he screams and yells and howls...until someone blows cigarettes on him, or lets him smell a bleach bottle. This is what the outdoors does to a domestic animal.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha!

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Uh, Paul, I don't think cats can generally sweat or cry, it might time for a little trip to the vet.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

(Where he said "cat" he meant "kidnapped eight-year-old girl".)

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Enzo enjoys the great outdoors. But he's not allowed outside unless he wears his harness (getting that thing on is a bitch and a half) and I'm on the other end of the leash. He's a total spaz and stuff like leaves scare the bejeezus out of him. He will occassionally stand on his back legs and stick his arms up towards me as if to say "enough, take me back in." Plus, a bee stung him once outside and that was a motherfucking disaster. I lost a year off my life as a result.

Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

my cats are indoor, and they're fine. we have a big enough house for them to run around in, and a screened in back porch area that allows them to get fresh air.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Aw, Enzo. We should have a CAT FAP. And place bets on the winner.

Paul Eater (eater), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Ally, that's kitty's way of saying "pay attention to me, and pay attention NOW! I want to play and you're paying far too much attention to that silly computer thing/glass you're drinking from (fill in the blank with the current thing offending kitty). They like the chase game a lot as they get older, so they get your attention and then run so you chase them. They then want to chase you in return. Poor stupid things but they do provide hours of amusement for people like me who are easily amused.

Guidelines for Cats

Doors:
Do not allow closed doors in any room. To get door opened, stand on hind legs and hammer with forepaws. Once door is opened, it is not necessary to use it. After you have ordered an "outside" door opened, stand halfway in and out and think about several things. This is particularly important during very cold weather, rain, snow, or mosquito season. Swinging doors are to be avoided at all costs.

Chairs and Rugs:
If you have to throw up, get to a chair quickly. If you cannot manage in time, get to an Oriental rug. If there is no Oriental rug, shag is good. When throwing up on the carpet, make sure you back up so that it is as long as the human's bare foot.

Bathrooms:
Always accompany guests to the bathroom. It is not necessary to do anything . . . just sit and stare.

Hampering:
If one of your humans is engaged in some close activity and the other is idle, stay with the busy one. This is called "helping", otherwise known as "hampering." Following are the rules for "hampering":

When supervising cooking, sit just behind the left heel of the cook. You cannot be seen and thereby stand a better chance of being stepped on and then picked up and comforted.

For book readers, get in close under the chin, between eyes and book, unless you can lie across the book itself.

For knitting projects or paperwork, lie on the work in the most appropriate manner so as to obscure as much of the work or at least the most important part. Pretend to doze, but every so often reach out and slap the pencil or knitting needles. The worker may try to distract you; ignore it. Remember, the aim is to hamper work. Embroidery and needlepoint projects make great hammocks in spite of what the humans may tell you.

For people paying bills (monthly activity) or working on income taxes or Christmas cards (annual activity), keep in mind the aim-to hamper! First, sit on the paper being worked on. When dislodged, watch sadly from the side of the table. When activity proceeds nicely, roll around on the papers, scattering them to the best of your ability. After being removed for the second time, push pens, pencils, and erasers off the table, one at a time. When a human is holding the newspaper in front of him/her, be sure to jump on the back of the paper. They love to jump.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link

For book readers, get in close under the chin, between eyes and book, unless you can lie across the book itself.

I have to add, if you see, hear, or smell someone somewhere in the house sit on the floor and open a newspaper in front of them, come immediately and sit right smack on top of the article they're reading.

it was a different shark (wetmink2), Monday, 3 October 2005 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link

my cat loves to talk, too. i know she gets bored when i'm not home, too, because i often come home and yarn is strewn around the living room and all my makeup sponges are in a little pile. (she loves them makeup wedge thingies)

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 3 October 2005 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I've grown to love that bookreading thing. In fact it is a lot less distracting than, say, somebody talking to you or somebody watching television.

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 3 October 2005 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Hampering:
If one of your humans is engaged in some close activity and the other is idle, stay with the busy one. This is called "helping", otherwise known as "hampering." Following are the rules for "hampering":

If anyone in the house, anyone whatsoever, sits on the floor to go through the DVDs or the CD collection, the cat will instantly find this person the most fascinating person in the world, stomp all over them, climb on the books of DVDs/CDs, scream and yell, etc etc etc. This does not occur if a person just chooses to sit on the floor. That person is a boring person. A person looking at DVD cases however is fascinating.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Monday, 3 October 2005 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Some cats, no matter how many years they've spent indoors, still have some INSANE fear of vacuum cleaners. I still have scars from an incident when I was a kid when my mom was about to vacuum so I was going to move the cat but she turned it on and the cat tried to run in place, in my arms, with claws fully extended and thrashing. What's sad is I consider it my fault.

mike h. (mike h.), Monday, 3 October 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I am distrustful of cat harnesses ever since I lost my first childhood cat at a highway rest stop thanks to a loose harness. :(

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 3 October 2005 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Ally are you alphabetizing your CDs and DVDs or arranging them by genre and presense of McQueen?

Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Monday, 3 October 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh my god I never thought of that.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Monday, 3 October 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

The Cat Came Back

Old Mr. Johnson had troubles of his own.
He had a yellow cat that wouldn't leave him alone.
He tried and he tried to keep that cat away.
Took it up to Canada and told it for to stay.

CHORUS:
But the cat came back the very next day.
The cat came back. They thought it was a goner,
But the cat came back; it just wouldn't stay away.

He gave it to a man going up in a balloon.
He told him to give it to the man up in the moon.
The balloon it must have busted; well, that's what they all said,
'Cause ten miles away, they picked the man up dead.

Now, this cat was a terror and they thought it would be best,
To gave it to a feller who was going way out West.
His train went 'round a curve and hit a broken rail.
Not a soul was left alive to tell the gruesome tale.

Now the cat was a possessor of a family of its own.
There were seven little kittens, 'til there came a cyclone.
It tore the houses all apart and tossed the cat around.
The air was filled with kittens, but not one was ever found.

Away across the ocean they did send the cat at last.
Vessel only out a day and taking water fast.
People all began to pray; the boat began to toss.
A great big gust of wind came by and every soul was lost.

They threw him in the kennel where the dog did lie asleep,
Where the bones of other cats lay piled in a heap.
That kennel burst apart and the dog flew out the side,
With the dog's ears chewed off and holes in its hide.

He gave it to a little boy with a dollar note.
He told the boy to take the cat up river on a boat.
They tied a rock around its neck - it must have weighed a pound.
And now they search the river for the little boy who drowned.

At last they found a way for this cat to really fix,
They trapped it in an orange crate down on highway 66.
Come a ten ton truck with a twenty ton load,
Scattered pieces of that crate a mile down the road.

The farmer on the corner said he'd shoot the cat on sight.
He loaded up his shotgun full of nails and dynamite.
He waited in the garden 'til that cat came walking 'round.
Seven little pieces of the man was all they found.

They strapped a bull's eye to its chest and tied it to a fence.
They lined up with their pistols; everyone was feeling tense.
It glared at them with eyes of green and with its teeth it spat.
And when the smoke had cleared away, they couldn't find the cat.

The H-bomb fell just the other day.
The A-bomb fell in the very same way.
Russia went! England went! And then the USA.
The entire human race was left without a chance to pray.

andy ---, Monday, 3 October 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

i hated the cartoon they made to go along with that song

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 3 October 2005 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

We used to sing a version of that in school music class, but it was way less violent.

it was a different shark (wetmink2), Monday, 3 October 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I don't remember the verse about total nuclear annihilation.

andy --, Monday, 3 October 2005 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link

but cats are outdoor animals

As Ally points out, this part of your argument is not actually true.

My cat was having some issues, and so after five or so years of being an indoor kitty, she was allowed out with strict supervision. It seemed to calm her down. Then one day she got stuck under the overhang of a neighbor's building. (When I tried to figure out how to get her out, she came out on her own. "You could have done that the whole time?!") Anyway then I moved to my current place, which is a courtyard apartment thingy, however you describe it, but anyway there are lots of gardens and none of the streets outside are especially busy. She mostly just stays right outside the door, and sometimes plays with the other cats. She tries to go out at night, but this is discouraged since there are sometimes raccoons that come by at night. I am hoping she doesn't get too brave about her wanderings.

Anyway, if a cat is having anxiety issues or seems unhappy being indoors, it's fine to let her out supervised (assuming it's not a dangerous neighborhood). If it's happy being indoors then why show it what it's missing? Let it be happy.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 3 October 2005 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Has anyone mentioned the flea issue? That was the main reason my mom would never allow to let my cat out.

oops (Oops), Monday, 3 October 2005 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link

if i didn't let my cats out for a few hours each day, they would drive me fucking bonkers. they're the local bullies too.

jimmy glass (electricsound), Monday, 3 October 2005 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link

i keep singing this thread title to the Pinball Wizard chorus.

She's an indoor kitty
There's got to be a twist
An indoor kitty
No fleas up in this bitch

it was a different shark (wetmink2), Monday, 3 October 2005 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i used to let my cat out untill i was smokin a cig and he was plyin in the grass and this huge ass white owl swooped down to pick him up. i screamed like a little bitch and the owl flew away but never again has he gone outside.. a few years have passed and the kitty seems happy as ever.

huell howser (chaki), Monday, 3 October 2005 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

my cat has zero interest in leaving the apartment. sometimes i'll open the front door and let him peer out from the doorway (which he likes cuz we're on the ground level and he can see the street), but he never goes any farther than that. if he sees someone coming he runs into the next room.

faith popcorn (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 3 October 2005 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link

B) THE FACT THAT ALL HE DOES IS SCREAM 24 HOURS A DAY. I've never seen an animal with SO MUCH to tell me. And it's like, shut the fuck up, I don't even understand your language and it probably amounts to "Did you know the human head weights 8 pounds??"

I thought I was the only one with a cat that does this. Mostly she's fine, but sometimes, and again in the presence of plenty of food, water, and attention, she sees it fit to walk around and yodel at the top of her voice for 20-30 minutes. Sometimes an hour. Then she settles on top of the record player and is fine for the rest of the night. It makes no sense, and it's very annoying.

Maybe she wants to go outside.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 3 October 2005 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Our two cats were born with feline leukemia, so they are indoor types to keep them from infecting other cats and to prevent them from being exposed to cat disease. We do let them out in the back patio, where one snacks on lemongrass and foxtails til he pukes and the other coats himself in dust (which is undoubtedly radioactive, around here).

A woman I know who is a confessed animal-strong-disliker let her kids get two (free) kittens last year. After paying many hundreds of $$ for shots, neutering, microchipping and the like, she left them out one night and they were eaten by coyotes.

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 3 October 2005 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost to myself: Oh, the best is when she has one of these episodes at 1 a.m. You can't sleep through it. So you get up to check her food and water, and they're both fine, but you put some more food on top just to be sure, and she looks at the food and then at you like, "What the fuck is this? This is not what I asked for!"

So then you club her unconscious with an empty wine bottle and go back to bed.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 3 October 2005 22:56 (eighteen years ago) link

She's probably bored. Make it a challenge for her to get to her food. Stack boxes around it or put it in a closet with the door barely open. She'll realize you've lost it and shut up to start planning her final attack.

One of our cats talks to himself most of the day, but in a low conspiratorial mutter.

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 3 October 2005 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

My cat --- who died a few weeks ago --- would do the caterwaul-for-no-apparent-reason thing. He didn't do it til he was about 14 y/o. The only thing I could figure is that he had some sort of chronic, internal pain.
Kenan, I assume your cat is spayed and isn't in heat?

oops (Oops), Monday, 3 October 2005 23:05 (eighteen years ago) link

We've got some MICHIGAN up in the house: that "Cat Came Back" lyric is by Wally Pleasant. I still remember how to play the guitar solo from that one.

nabiscothingy, Monday, 3 October 2005 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link


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