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dude no

Tell your black students to watch Chappelle’s bit on celebrities:

https://youtu.be/H7b5hJ0G_9c

the song "feel it still" by portugal the man is a good song

The bulk of the amateur, modular enthusiast tracks (demos, sketches, full-on / fleshed out tracks) i've heard on Soundcloud are more enjoyable than most of the 'studio' songs that make up the proper releases I've listened to (so far) this year. Except maybe for the Beak, Aphex Twin, and xuiqen albums, and some albums on Another Timbre.

New vinyl records are a waste of money. Most tape releases sound like crap--why won't people use metal bias / type II tape cassettes, and put effort into improving the sound quality of their releases? Is it (putting out tapes) just for the sake of novelty? Notice Recordings (label) make good-sounding tapes, why won't others?

What do you recommend for modular enthusiast tracks?

xpost A 35 year old second hand cassette copy of say Duck Rock, 90125, Crises etc has better sound quality than a regular nowadays vinyl, CD or cassette release.

A dubious claim at best

Go pick one up at your local thrift store then tell me I'm wrong.

What do you recommend for modular enthusiast tracks?

https://soundcloud.com/leheron_idletones/likes -- this might be hit and miss, but there are loads of modular synth sketches, demos, tracks, etc. The recently liked "Charles" tracks are v pleasant

https://soundcloud.com/edbkt/river -- these "edbkt" tracks are really nice as well..
https://soundcloud.com/edbkt/mngrvs

https://soundcloud.com/caspar-hesselager/to-be-quiet-modular-synth-patch

sorry, one more

Thanks!

explain this to my black students though, who saw past the spectacle

what did/does the music mean to them?

liberation

https://soundcloud.com/aroom_temp/180407a
https://soundcloud.com/papernoise/random-rings
https://soundcloud.com/billygomberg/180125-last-from-brooklyn

I think the thing with vinyl and with tapes is that the distortion and lack of clarity are part of the sound, sometimes cleaning up a recording means removing something that worked, whether the artist or producer intended it or not (the reverse is often the case too of course) and that is a creative decision on a case by case basis, you can't say "it's always bad" or "it's always good."
Acts putting out tapes in 2018 are essentially putting a 1980s instagram filter on their music, I find it a bit silly, but it's their choice.

the song "feel it still" by portugal the man is a good song

It made my tracks ballot last year.

xps more specifically.

jamie xx will never be respected by the culture he adores even though he deserves it

I think the thing with vinyl and with tapes is that the distortion and lack of clarity are part of the sound, sometimes cleaning up a recording means removing something that worked, whether the artist or producer intended it or not (the reverse is often the case too of course) and that is a creative decision on a case by case basis, you can't say "it's always bad" or "it's always good."

*especially with Normal bias (type i) tapes, which most people seem to be using

of course, you can't monitor each/every dub, for a run of tapes.. but at least do it once, to set a general level just high enough so there won't be distortion / clipping, unless you wanted that effect. I have a Silver Jews 'Early Times' cassette from Drag City, and they did it right. 'Early Time's is sort of a meta- example, though

I'm looking forward to this: https://deadoceans.com/news/ryley-walker-announces-the-lillywhite-sessions/

Because I think DMB has a lot of material that most people would like if it weren't being delivered by DMB.

oh i am super hyped for that surprise

the "surf's up" album would've been better than "pet sounds" if it had been all wilson songs

most cds sound better than most vinyl

Pet Sounds is overrated (we’ve had this discussion here)

(Beach Boys are great but Pet Sounds a flawed “go-to” album)

i agree with that

50s rock and roll all sounds thes ame

^this is kind of true, but it sounds gr8

Pet Sounds is overrated (we’ve had this discussion here)

This is not even remotely controversial.

The fact that Pet Sounds is the only especially celebrated BB album by the world at large (plus Smile if it counts) is completely absurd, when their run from Today to Holland is about as great as they come

THE RISE OF ALL CAPS IN TRACKS TITLES AND OTHER LANGUAGE IN MUSIC IS MOSTLY GOOD

Beach Boys' Party! is a neglected masterpiece

A rarified few believe that All Summer Long is where they hit their stride.

pet sounds is their only consistently good album. the rest go off on weird, creepy, or just plain shit detours, and thus the rest of their albums are hard to recommend to an album-focused listener unless they're already a dyed-in-the-wool fan.

I think Beach Boys are well served by a Greatest Hits comp. I know there's a stack of them, but the 2003 Sounds of Summer compilation is probably the thing of theirs that I listen to the most.

the rest go off on weird, creepy, or just plain shit detours

also true of every post-Help Beatles album tbf

This is not even remotely controversial.

It was fairly controversial on that other thread! (Think it was something like, “Artists you’ve never been able to get into, despite trying multiple times.”)

agreed re: bjork, also her songs are unlistenable

― crüt, Saturday, September 8, 2018 9:18 AM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my brother

Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20, Sunflower and Surf's Up are all extremely enjoyable albums with, at worst, one or two subpar tracks that I don't think would seriously ruin anyone's overall enjoyment of them. I'm sure even casual BB fans have listened to and enjoyed other albs that aren't flawless from soup to nuts and besides, weird/creepy is a pretty essential part of the overall BB aesthetic imho.

2000s and on Bjork voice is pretty off-putting yeah

Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20, Sunflower and Surf's Up are all extremely enjoyable albums with, at worst, one or two subpar tracks

this is overly generous to Smiley Smile but agree about the others. Friends is super-short and every song is great, for ex.

most cds sound better than most vinyl

agreed.

also, compact disc is the most enjoyable musical format overall

xp lol i'm a big fan of Friends, but calling "Transcendental Meditation" great is a strech imo

it'll get you feelin grand maaaan

There are definitely no dud tracks on "Smiley Smile", that's for sure.

never forget

LOL, classic ILM.