S/D: Thin White Rope?

Russia cover photo apparently ties in with the cover mounted single. I can't find a story on the band in the issue.
Just found it beside my bedm saw back cover advert for Dave Graney's my life in th plains and thought it might be that issue.
Says there are stories in numbers 11; 13 and 25. Russia cover is 33.

https://frontierrecords-thinwhiterope.bandcamp.com/album/the-ruby-sea-2019-remastered-edition

(out next week)

it's out!

Does anyone know if this was remastered in 2019? I've a sneaking feeling it's a reissue of a 2002 remaster

I mean this:

https://www.discogs.com/Thin-White-Rope-The-Ruby-Sea/release/5165366

Was that one remastered though? Discogs usually mentions that where it says "reissue"

The 2019 credit sheet contains "Remastering: Paul du Gré" just like all the other 2018/2019 versions but I don't know for sure about 2002.

I'm thinking this because they seem to be selling that CD as well, as a 2018 product.

I have the 2002 "Exploring..." and it had that same "Remastered etc" sticker on the front

(I'm considering getting the CDs)

Update. I bought Moonhead. Amazon lists it as released in 2018. It looks like the CD on the Bandcamp page:

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/0012871653_10.jpg

And the barcode tells me its this:

https://www.discogs.com/Thin-White-Rope-Moonhead/release/12507123

Which is reassuring but also confusing as my Exploring the Axis had exactly the same sticker on the front but is apparently a 2002 reissue.

Exploring the Axis is a seriously fucking amazing record

Thin White Rope
1984-05-26
Samurai Sound Labs CA
The Rational demos

(9th in series)

info source:
Lineage: SBD tape (unknown gen) > Apple G4 > AIFF > FLAC

The cassette states that these were recorded at Samurai Sound Labs CA on 1984-05-26.

Anyway this set is ripped from a tape of demos given to Frontier Records and the copy I have is a low generation copy although there is some tape hiss it's still an excellent set.

Total 1:01:10

1. The real west
2. Waking up
3. Moonhead
4. From home
5. Down in the desert
6. Munich Eunich *
7. Here she comes now ** Removed
8. And those fears
9. Not your fault
10. Disney girl
11. Three song
12. Atomic imagery
13. Dead granmas on a train
14. Eleven
15. Mother
16. Exploring the axis
17. Lithium

I wonder if these are the demos produced by Scott Miller that he mentioned in Music: What Happened?

(upon further research I'm thinking: duh, yeah, prolley is...)

The text file with that download contained this, that seems to suggest it prolley ain't:

"There's an article by Joe Becker from the band on their origin in which he makes reference to a several of the demos that the band recorded at this time. I don't *think* that these are the demos produced by Scott Miller (later of Game Theory and the Loud Family) because they date from 1983. Maybe they're the demos produced by Russ Tolman (from True West). Who knows?! They're great anyway.
The cassette had obviously been copied a couple of times before it got to me and there a couple of minor wows and flutters on the tape but, if you're a fan of the Rope, that won't deter you none.

The article can be read at https://web.archive.org/web/20120301130712/http://www.davis80smusic.com/davis80smusic%20thin%20white%20rope%20joe%20becker.htm "

Oh they were called the "Rational demos" and Game Theory self-released their early stuff on "Rational Records"

ok, +1 point for the Scott Miller theory then after all :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6_eVB_c81w

Awesome! Thanks for sharing!

I Think I was at that show.
Definitely saw tehm at the venue and assume it would have been that year.

would've been amazing to see them at the boardwalk, great venue! saw both the young gods and fugazi there in 89-ish, perfect sweat-infested box of sound

Thanks for the heads up!

https://frontierrecords-thinwhiterope.bandcamp.com/album/moonhead-the-ruby-sea-live-in-gent

two songs live at their final show but not included on The One That Got Away. NOTE: Live versions on vinyl only, downloads are studio versions.

(I thought it was a remastered TOTGA but alas)

oh c'mon that's dumb! Why can't I pay money to download the live versions? I'd love to complete that show! Grrr.

IKR :-(

Here's a conversation with Roger Kunkel from last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vuuq13Ytl8

um, this year. anyway

Thank you! Just finished it. Any crumbs of insight or ephemera regarding TWR are like gold dust to me. And I never would have noticed this on my own.

Any more important live recordings come to light in the last year or two?

I'm not in dime myself & aren't aware of anything. Anyone?

In the interview above Roger mentions a 4 track recording of the 1988 Olive Pit show (where Guy only wears boots) that someone has and was willing to mix/master, though, I hope they release it.

The "The one that got away" remaster that was hinted at one time probably isn't happening, I suppose?

Idk but it’s been awhile since the studio album ones so seems doubtful.

I was a bit surprised when the hosts were talking about guy’s body of work and didn’t mention the Mummydogs album

Roger wasn't in that band though.

XXP - Just had a scan on D1m3 and everything has fallen off the tracker, but I think we got all the good stuff.

I know, there was just a “and then he withdrew except to play some bluegrass sometimes” thing

Mummydogs wasn’t nearly on TWR’s level of course so it’s not a huge lacuna

Xpost thanks mares!

yeah, thanks for checking, Maresn3st!

yeah, went and checked what was on myself a few hours ago. only thing that appeared was a band called Wand and they had song title parts that triggered the search engine response.

Thank you too :-)

FYI for anyone interested in correct information on their recordings: this one "1988-04-02 - Goez Beest, Amsterdam, NL - Sbd" doesn't make sense.

venue = Podium 't Beest
city = Goes (and that is 120 km / 75 miles away from Amsterdam)

Here's one I found that wasn't shared here last time around (have been looking for confirmation about the date (or if it's MM/DD or DD/MM?) but can't find that either) - it's one of the most impressive sounding ones yet imho. soundboard.

https://we.tl/t-M2QEIp9q5N

1990-11-09 RKCNDY, Seattle, WA

01. Wire Animals
02. The Ruby Sea
03. Astronomy
04. Eleven
05. Puppet Dog
06. Some Velvet Morning
07. Tina And Glen
08. Triangle Song
09. Elsie Crashed The Party
10. Valley Of The Bones
11. Munich Eunuch
12. Ants Are Cavemen
13. Fish Song
14. Roadrunner
15. Bartender's Rag
16. Hunter's Moon
17. Silver Machine

Ooh I definitely don’t have that one

(I could have fixed the last three tracks' MP3 tags but anyway)

or flac tags, whatever they're called when it's flac

This one is new to me too - thanks!

Amazing! Thanks

the only thing is... RKCNDY opened in 1991. Doesn't keep me from enjoying the show but it bothers me.

okay - it was 9 November 1991 (found it on this taper's list - among some other stuff that must be out there (on cassette at least) - https://digilander.libero.it/anti4it/bootlegscdnz.html )

Set list makes more sense with that date

Thanks for this StanM! Man I love TWR.

I'm just discovering this podcast has interviews with some interesting musicians. I listened to a 3 part thing with Gun Club drummer Terry Graham a few days ago and one with Stuart Moxham yesterday
This one is with Roger Kunkel, not sure if it was upped here before since its from April last year
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3O7WleGyOc1CgJee2IiMdr?si=61e5267c92f24b73

Thanks! while scrolling down to that one (I'm not on spotify) I noticed a lot of other interesting stuff on C86. Suicide with Martin Rev, Green On Red with Dan Stuart (and then a couple of weeks later with Chris Cacavas), Whipping Boy, The Seers,...