Post a controversial music opinion

How is vinyl more convenient? Can't play an LP on a Walkman.

lossless digital is technically the better medium, assuming a good master. However mastering often ruins a lot of lossless releases, whether CD or web.

My controversial opinion: 154 > Chairs Missing

To me CDs are more consistent at sounding good. Vinyl is all over the place, sometimes sounding either far worse or far better than CDs.

xp

My controversial opinion: 154 > Chairs Missing

― octobeard, Sunday, 23 September 2018 21:49 (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is correct, not controversial

the real talk: pink flag is at best wire's fourth-best album and it's probably lower

It might be correct or it might not be correct but it is controversial.

Not extremely controversial, of course!

"Pretty On The Inside" is an amazing album

Eddie Vedder has turned into a marvelous singer.

Read & Burn 01/Read & Burn 02/Send > Pink Flag/Chairs Missing/154

The first Read & Burn is one of my favorite albums/EPs/whatever of the '00s.

markos and crut otm

re grouper - great music for plane rides tho, easy to nod off to

"Send" is terrible though <---- adequately fulfilling the requirements of the thread title

yep

beyoncé's music imprisons minds & liberates no one

― crüt, Sunday, September 23, 2018 11:29 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I’ll up this one as this might be the right thread.

This shouldn’t be a controversial opinion. Beyonce’s grotesque transformation of real radicalism into a dep Fuck Beyonce and her imperialist elite pretensiousness. She’s not progressive, she’s a commodified caricature.

Sorry I erased a bit by mistake:

Beyonce’s grotesque transformation of real radicalist imagery and messages into de-politicized, mindless spectacle is what should spark controversy.

I really liked “a dep Fuck Beyoncé” tho

Read & Burn 01/Read & Burn 02/Send > Pink Flag/Chairs Missing/154

― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 23 September 2018 22:20 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kind of agree. send is one of the best albums of the last 20 years

Beyonce’s grotesque transformation of real radicalist imagery and messages into de-politicized, mindless spectacle is what should spark controversy.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, September 23, 2018

explain this to my black students though, who saw past the spectacle

What do you teach, Alfred?

After giving Chairs Missing and 154 proper listens in the past couple weeks... I’ve decided I really only care about Wire songs that sound like singles. Not that they’re a bad band or anything.

Edit... I listened to Pink Flag also

What do you teach, Alfred?

― growing up in publix (morrisp),

Journalism. Until last month I was the student media adviser for the student paper and radio station.

...too

The offspring had some amazing songs

Love "Gone Away"

A fantastic song. Maybe the offspring aren’t that low on the critic’s estimation— i always got the sense they were.

I like “the kids aren’t alright” and all the other songs rhey made that sound like that, like “you’re gonna go far kid”

Self esteem is catchy af

definitely cosign some of the offspring love

There's never been a Scottish music scene.

There's a UK scene which includes Scottish people, labels, cities, venues etc.

dude no

Tell your black students to watch Chappelle’s bit on celebrities:

https://youtu.be/H7b5hJ0G_9c

the song "feel it still" by portugal the man is a good song

The bulk of the amateur, modular enthusiast tracks (demos, sketches, full-on / fleshed out tracks) i've heard on Soundcloud are more enjoyable than most of the 'studio' songs that make up the proper releases I've listened to (so far) this year. Except maybe for the Beak, Aphex Twin, and xuiqen albums, and some albums on Another Timbre.

New vinyl records are a waste of money. Most tape releases sound like crap--why won't people use metal bias / type II tape cassettes, and put effort into improving the sound quality of their releases? Is it (putting out tapes) just for the sake of novelty? Notice Recordings (label) make good-sounding tapes, why won't others?

What do you recommend for modular enthusiast tracks?

xpost A 35 year old second hand cassette copy of say Duck Rock, 90125, Crises etc has better sound quality than a regular nowadays vinyl, CD or cassette release.

A dubious claim at best

Go pick one up at your local thrift store then tell me I'm wrong.

What do you recommend for modular enthusiast tracks?

https://soundcloud.com/leheron_idletones/likes -- this might be hit and miss, but there are loads of modular synth sketches, demos, tracks, etc. The recently liked "Charles" tracks are v pleasant

https://soundcloud.com/edbkt/river -- these "edbkt" tracks are really nice as well..
https://soundcloud.com/edbkt/mngrvs

https://soundcloud.com/caspar-hesselager/to-be-quiet-modular-synth-patch

sorry, one more

Thanks!

explain this to my black students though, who saw past the spectacle

what did/does the music mean to them?

liberation

https://soundcloud.com/aroom_temp/180407a
https://soundcloud.com/papernoise/random-rings
https://soundcloud.com/billygomberg/180125-last-from-brooklyn

I think the thing with vinyl and with tapes is that the distortion and lack of clarity are part of the sound, sometimes cleaning up a recording means removing something that worked, whether the artist or producer intended it or not (the reverse is often the case too of course) and that is a creative decision on a case by case basis, you can't say "it's always bad" or "it's always good."
Acts putting out tapes in 2018 are essentially putting a 1980s instagram filter on their music, I find it a bit silly, but it's their choice.

the song "feel it still" by portugal the man is a good song

It made my tracks ballot last year.

xps more specifically.

jamie xx will never be respected by the culture he adores even though he deserves it