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beyoncé's music imprisons minds & liberates no one

― crüt, Sunday, September 23, 2018 11:29 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

about time someone said this

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 23 September 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link

I said it a while back. It did not go well.

pomenitul, Sunday, 23 September 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link

imprison your mind
and your ass will follow

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 September 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

Hole were a better band than Nirvana and deserve the latter's place in The Canon(TM).

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Sunday, 23 September 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link

Most grunge was bad, and did music no favors.

growing up in publix (morrisp), Sunday, 23 September 2018 17:36 (five years ago) link

otm

xpost

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 September 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link

the Beatles were good

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 September 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link

At their best, Artery were better than Joy Division

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 23 September 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link

Hole were a better band than Nirvana and deserve the latter's place in The Canon(TM).

Agree, but mostly due to Nirvana's staggering shittiness; Hole didn't actually get good until Celebrity Skin.

...

The Pet Shop Boys should have hung it up after Very.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 23 September 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link

Tony Willé > Maurice Deebank

PaulTMA, Sunday, 23 September 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link

The vinyl LP, while a cooler artifact, is inferior to the CD as a music medium. (Cassette tapes have no excuse but borrowed nostalgia, but I hope that's not controversial.)

Soundslike, Sunday, 23 September 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

Blackheart is a cool album, but overall I think Dawn Richard's solo career has been overrated on here. The second Danity Kane album was her peak.

kitchen person, Sunday, 23 September 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link

cassettes are fun to record on and for making mixtapes, but they are by far the worst medium for music listening

flappy bird, Sunday, 23 September 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link

Cassettes are durable and had a portability function in the Walkman / car tape deck / boombox era, but there’s no reason for them now.

growing up in publix (morrisp), Sunday, 23 September 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

In their flawed fidelity, they do have their own distinctive sound and warmth + memory triggers for those of us of a certain age so I can get their appeal, within limits.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Sunday, 23 September 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

CDs or lossless digital are best for music with a wide dynamic range; that can't be controversial?

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Sunday, 23 September 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link

the qualities and character of tape are beautiful but it's easily the least practical way to listen to music compared to the other three dominant media (vinyl, streaming, CD's).

flappy bird, Sunday, 23 September 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link

Yeah, convenience is definitely not one of the benefits of cassettes in the present day.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Sunday, 23 September 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link

How is vinyl more convenient? Can't play an LP on a Walkman.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 23 September 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link

lossless digital is technically the better medium, assuming a good master. However mastering often ruins a lot of lossless releases, whether CD or web.

octobeard, Sunday, 23 September 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link

My controversial opinion: 154 > Chairs Missing

octobeard, Sunday, 23 September 2018 21:49 (five years ago) link

To me CDs are more consistent at sounding good. Vinyl is all over the place, sometimes sounding either far worse or far better than CDs.

xp

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 23 September 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link

My controversial opinion: 154 > Chairs Missing

― octobeard, Sunday, 23 September 2018 21:49 (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is correct, not controversial

imago, Sunday, 23 September 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link

the real talk: pink flag is at best wire's fourth-best album and it's probably lower

imago, Sunday, 23 September 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link

It might be correct or it might not be correct but it is controversial.

Zach Same (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 September 2018 21:58 (five years ago) link

Not extremely controversial, of course!

Zach Same (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 September 2018 21:58 (five years ago) link

"Pretty On The Inside" is an amazing album

fgti is for (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 23 September 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link

Eddie Vedder has turned into a marvelous singer.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 September 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link

Read & Burn 01/Read & Burn 02/Send > Pink Flag/Chairs Missing/154

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 23 September 2018 22:20 (five years ago) link

The first Read & Burn is one of my favorite albums/EPs/whatever of the '00s.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 September 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link

markos and crut otm

re grouper - great music for plane rides tho, easy to nod off to

Ross, Sunday, 23 September 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link

"Send" is terrible though <---- adequately fulfilling the requirements of the thread title

Zach Same (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 September 2018 22:49 (five years ago) link

yep

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 September 2018 22:50 (five years ago) link

beyoncé's music imprisons minds & liberates no one

― crüt, Sunday, September 23, 2018 11:29 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I’ll up this one as this might be the right thread.

This shouldn’t be a controversial opinion. Beyonce’s grotesque transformation of real radicalism into a dep Fuck Beyonce and her imperialist elite pretensiousness. She’s not progressive, she’s a commodified caricature.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 23 September 2018 23:16 (five years ago) link

Sorry I erased a bit by mistake:

Beyonce’s grotesque transformation of real radicalist imagery and messages into de-politicized, mindless spectacle is what should spark controversy.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 23 September 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link

I really liked “a dep Fuck Beyoncé” tho

growing up in publix (morrisp), Sunday, 23 September 2018 23:28 (five years ago) link

Read & Burn 01/Read & Burn 02/Send > Pink Flag/Chairs Missing/154

― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 23 September 2018 22:20 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kind of agree. send is one of the best albums of the last 20 years

imago, Sunday, 23 September 2018 23:54 (five years ago) link

Beyonce’s grotesque transformation of real radicalist imagery and messages into de-politicized, mindless spectacle is what should spark controversy.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, September 23, 2018

explain this to my black students though, who saw past the spectacle

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 September 2018 23:55 (five years ago) link

What do you teach, Alfred?

growing up in publix (morrisp), Monday, 24 September 2018 00:06 (five years ago) link

After giving Chairs Missing and 154 proper listens in the past couple weeks... I’ve decided I really only care about Wire songs that sound like singles. Not that they’re a bad band or anything.

He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Monday, 24 September 2018 00:21 (five years ago) link

Edit... I listened to Pink Flag also

He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Monday, 24 September 2018 00:23 (five years ago) link

What do you teach, Alfred?

― growing up in publix (morrisp),

Journalism. Until last month I was the student media adviser for the student paper and radio station.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 September 2018 00:23 (five years ago) link

...too

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 September 2018 00:23 (five years ago) link

The offspring had some amazing songs

Trϵϵship, Monday, 24 September 2018 00:26 (five years ago) link

Love "Gone Away"

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Monday, 24 September 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link

A fantastic song. Maybe the offspring aren’t that low on the critic’s estimation— i always got the sense they were.

I like “the kids aren’t alright” and all the other songs rhey made that sound like that, like “you’re gonna go far kid”

Trϵϵship, Monday, 24 September 2018 00:34 (five years ago) link

Self esteem is catchy af

brimstead, Monday, 24 September 2018 02:21 (five years ago) link

definitely cosign some of the offspring love

Ross, Monday, 24 September 2018 02:30 (five years ago) link

There's never been a Scottish music scene.

There's a UK scene which includes Scottish people, labels, cities, venues etc.

everything, Monday, 24 September 2018 02:53 (five years ago) link

dude no

Trϵϵship, Monday, 24 September 2018 03:06 (five years ago) link


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